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I ended up getting the tin after all for my birthday (I'd told my wife to just get the regular DVD, but apparently she didn't relay the message to my mother-in-law, who got it for me). Man, the tin is HUGE, but what a gorgeous set. Watched the film last night... looked great, sounded great.

But... yeah, that Robbie figure is TINY.
post #272 of 308

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Keep in mind that F.P. will be out on Blu-ray as well. Probably a nice 50 gig disc.
At this point this is wishful thinking until it actually is announced.
post #273 of 308

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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
At this point this is wishful thinking until it actually is announced.

Warner has stated in the past that they plan to support both formats equally. According to WHV, no film will be exclusive to either format. Its just a matter of time.
post #274 of 308

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I went through most of the content on this set today. Really amazing stuff. Never seen the film before, and really loved it, as well as the great supplements. Now I have a yearning for other classic sci-fi. What're some recommendations? I have several DVDs, like 2001 and The Day the Earth Stood Still, but I'm looking for other gems.
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Warner has stated in the past that they plan to support both formats equally. According to WHV, no film will be exclusive to either format. Its just a matter of time.
We shall see. I still don't see an announcement of V or Casablanca yet to BR. In the meanwhile Warner could change their mind. They aren't exactly format neutral.
post #276 of 308

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Originally Posted by PaulP
I went through most of the content on this set today. Really amazing stuff. Never seen the film before, and really loved it, as well as the great supplements. Now I have a yearning for other classic sci-fi. What're some recommendations? I have several DVDs, like 2001 and The Day the Earth Stood Still, but I'm looking for other gems.
Them
Earth vs The Flying Saucers
20 Million Miles to Earth
Monster That Challenged World
The Thing
H.G. Wells' First Men in the Moon
The Time Machine
It Came From Outer Space
The War of the Worlds
When Worlds Collide
Creature from the Black Lagoon
The Black Scorpion
This Island Earth
The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms
The Angry Red Planet

among many. Most of those are cheezy but I love em.
post #277 of 308

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Originally Posted by Daryl L
Them
Earth vs The Flying Saucers
20 Million Miles to Earth
Monster That Challenged World
The Thing
H.G. Wells' First Men in the Moon
The Time Machine
It Came From Outer Space
The War of the Worlds
When Worlds Collide
Creature from the Black Lagoon
The Black Scorpion
This Island Earth
The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms
The Angry Red Planet

among many. Most of those are cheezy but I love em.
There's only two on your list that IMHO qualify as cheesy, Monster that Challenged the World and The Angry Red Planet. The latter of the two is a far more entertaining movie. Ok, Black Scorpion is a little cheesy too, but not excessively so.
post #278 of 308

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Warners is great at giving us goodies on their DVDs. On "The Black Scorpion" DVD they gave us the the 10 minute color dinosaur footage from "Animal World," animated by Harryhausen/O'Brien!!!
post #279 of 308

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Keep in mind that F.P. will be out on Blu-ray as well. Probably a nice 50 gig disc.
If it does come out on BR, the content or the transfer won't be any different.
post #280 of 308

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A Journey to the Center of the Earth and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea surely deserve a place on this list. So does the silent Metropolis, inspiration for everything from the Superman comic book to C3-PO. I would personally add the somewhat corny, but quirky and surprising Rocket Ship XM and a personal favorite, The Blob - the original with Steve McQueen - a triumph of cast and story over a non-existent budget.

On the TV side, consider The Outer Limits which was more SF than its rival The Twilight Zone, and adapted some of the classics of the genre. (What other TV series would have done a version of Harlan Ellison's "Demon with a Glass Hand"?)

Regards,

Joe
post #281 of 308

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Not to offend anybody, and thanks for the suggestions, but most of those are "cheesy" big bug/moster movies. Not that those don't have their place and audience. I don't want to sound like a snob, but I'm looking for more "serious" films, akin to Forbidden Planet and The Day the Earth Stood Still.
post #282 of 308

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Not “big bug/monter” movies

This ffice:smarttags" />Island Earth
H.G. Wells' First Men in the Moon
The Time Machine
When Worlds Collide
The War of the Worlds (The Martians are not played as mere monsters)
Rocketship XM

Have Bugs/Monsters, but played straight, and take themselves seriously as films for grown ups.


Them
The Thing

Good, Solid B movies with good effects

Earth vs The Flying Saucers (Saucermen not really treated as monsters)
20 Million Miles to Earth
The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms
Creature from the Black Lagoon
It Came From Outer Space

Goofy Fun

The Angry Red Planet
The Blob (Original)

Never saw ‘em, can’t comment

Monster That Challenged World
The Black Scorpion

Can't believe nobody mentioned

The Incredible Shrinking Man


Regards,


Joe

post #283 of 308

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Can't believe nobody mentioned

The Incredible Shrinking Man

Absolutely. I'd also add The Man in the White Suit.
post #284 of 308

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Originally Posted by PaulP
Not to offend anybody, and thanks for the suggestions, but most of those are "cheesy" big bug/moster movies. Not that those don't have their place and audience. I don't want to sound like a snob, but I'm looking for more "serious" films, akin to Forbidden Planet and The Day the Earth Stood Still.

To any serious sci-fi film collector, there is no cheesy film...they're all great in their own way!!!
post #285 of 308

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Amen, I love the cheesy, low budget Sci-Fi films more the the Mega-Buck efforts.
post #286 of 308

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Originally Posted by PaulP
Not to offend anybody, and thanks for the suggestions, but most of those are "cheesy" big bug/moster movies. Not that those don't have their place and audience. I don't want to sound like a snob, but I'm looking for more "serious" films, akin to Forbidden Planet and The Day the Earth Stood Still.

As far as 50s si-fi, Forbidden Planet was a one and only for the 50s. Just like 2001 was a one and only for the 60s. They didnt see a need to throw money into si-fi because in the 50s it was thought of as juvenile, and not a money maker. I dont think Forbidden Planet went into the black for many years. If i recall correct.
post #287 of 308

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As far as 50s si-fi, Forbidden Planet was a one and only for the 50s.

Really? What about the other film that Paul mentioned in the part of his post you quoted? The Day the Earth Stood Still was also a 50s film. And there were far more seious, adult SF films in both the 50s and the 60s than FP and 2001. Several of the 50s films are mentioned above. I'd add the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers to the 50s list, along with the post-nuclear holocaust On the Beach and merely mention Planet of the Apes and Fantastic Voyage as two other serious, big budget, SF films from the 60s.

Regards,

Joe
post #288 of 308

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Originally Posted by Joseph DeMartino
Really? What about the other film that Paul mentioned in the part of his post you quoted? The Day the Earth Stood Still was also a 50s film. And there were far more seious, adult SF films in both the 50s and the 60s than FP and 2001. Several of the 50s films are mentioned above. I'd add the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers to the 50s list, along with the post-nuclear holocaust On the Beach and merely mention Planet of the Apes and Fantastic Voyage as two other serious, big budget, SF films from the 60s.

Regards,

Joe

I agree, all the films you mention are great, and i love them all. But also most take place on earth in the present, well, the 50s present. Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Day the Earth Stood Still, and even Planet of the Apes, to some degree, were not big budget movies. Just think of what could have been made with a Ben Hur or Cleopatra budget in the day!
post #289 of 308

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I agree, all the films you mention are great, and i love them all. But also most take place on earth in the present, well, the 50s present.

The post I was responding to mentioned SF films, not specifically films set in the future. It doesn't have to be in outer space or in the future to be science fiction.

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Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Day the Earth Stood Still, and even Planet of the Apes, to some degree, were not big budget movies. Just think of what could have been made with a Ben Hur or Cleopatra budget in the day!

Day the Earth Stood Still and Planet of the Apes were definitley "major" studios releases with budgets comparable to other "A" pictures or equivalents, if not huge roadshow "event" movies. And I'm not sure I'd use Cleopatra as an example of much of anything. I damned near sank the studio. If you ever visit Century City in Los Angeles, just remember that it is sitting on what used to be the Fox back lot - which they had to sell off to cover the cost overruns on Cleo.

Regards,

Joe

post #290 of 308

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Originally Posted by Joseph DeMartino
Really? What about the other film that Paul mentioned in the part of his post you quoted? The Day the Earth Stood Still was also a 50s film. And there were far more seious, adult SF films in both the 50s and the 60s than FP and 2001. Several of the 50s films are mentioned above. I'd add the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers to the 50s list, along with the post-nuclear holocaust On the Beach and merely mention Planet of the Apes and Fantastic Voyage as two other serious, big budget, SF films from the 60s.
Is On The Beach sci-fi? If memory serves, it postulated a world after a nuclear war, something all too possible. It was a what-if about the then present-day that required no scientific advancements. To me it was more social-fiction than sci-fi.

I have to humbly disagree with you when classifying Fantastic Voyage as a serious sci-fi movie. Beyond that fact that I was always wondering, where is all the light coming from, the effects were very cheesy along with the acting.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers and FV occupy different universes when it comes to quality. True, IOTBS didn't require much in the way of effects, but it is a B movie only in audience attitude towards the genre. It's an A-list movie for me and FV is a C-list movie. Now if they had put Raquel in a bikini for her diving scenes.
post #291 of 308

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I'm sorry for taking the thread off-topic. Just wanted to say I really appreciate this discussion.
post #292 of 308

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Is On The Beach sci-fi? If memory serves, it postulated a world after a nuclear war, something all too possible.

Does it have to be impossible to be sci-fi? Are The Andromeda Strain and The Terminal Man SF? I'm not sure. Both were contemporary novels that involved perfectly possible scenarios and at most postulated slight and entirely reasonable developments of current technology. And yet I'm tempted to say "Yes" to both, especially if we understand SF to mean both "science fiction" and "speculative fiction". In part it is the affinity for science that puts them across the goal line for me. It is specifically how they deal with the consequences of scientific inquiry and application that make them seem like SF.

I think On the Beach qualifies because it presents a genuinely changed world, an alternate universe to the one we live in - one where the bomb really was dropped and a civilization collapsed. I think that's qualitatively different than an ordinary piece of mainstream fiction that asks a single "what if" question like what if a woman were elected president or what if a the U.S. had a chance to capture a Soviet nulcear sub - or even "what if a terrorist exploded a nuclear bomb in the U.S." because those scenarios change one thing about our present and let us imagine how they would play out in the world we know. Also they key element that is changed, and to which we are reacting isn't really connected to science and its consequences in quite the same way. A stolen nuke used by terrorist is somehow a very different thing psychologically than a world-wide holocaust brought about by the civilization that developed the technology.

On the Beach and similar tales ask us to step across a divide into a completely different world and ask ourselves how we'd cope with having to live there.

Of course, defining what is and what isn't SF is one of the great intellectual parlor games, and there are never any "right" answers.

Joe
post #293 of 308

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Originally Posted by Joseph DeMartino
Of course, defining what is and what isn't SF is one of the great intellectual parlor games, and there are never any "right" answers.
I can agree with that.
post #294 of 308

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Andromeda Strain and The Terminal Man SF

"Fiction" doesn't imply "impossible"... just that it's not a documented story of fact (ie, a true-story).

Sure. Any grounded, scientifically-accurate movie about a fictional story, even one that's possible, could be science-fiction.

Movies that delve into the impossible are probably better labeled as "fantasy" or "sci-fi/fantasy".
post #295 of 308

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I made some pictures of the German tin. It is the same box as the one from the U.S. (even the coupon for the free poster reproduction is included, although this is only available in the USA), but differs in the digipak artwork.
post #296 of 308

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Some nice photography Christian! The little Robby even looks better and bigger!
post #297 of 308

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I finally got around to watching the whole film uninterupted, and wrote up a review for my blog:

http://dvdsam.blogspot.com/2006/12/d...-ultimate.html

I was very impressed by what I saw. I hadn't seen FP in about 10 years, and the movie looks better than I remember. And what a great edition Warners put together. What a treasure it is to have deleted scenes and lost footage unearthed and included on the DVD.
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DVD Times has just posted a excellent review of the Film & DVD


http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63585
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Originally Posted by Shawn DuHast
DVD Times has just posted a excellent review of the Film & DVD


http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63585
Reading this review and the comments on the Krell technology has brought someting to mind. For me at least, the weakest part of the special effects of the film are when we are being shown the immense Krell underground. Whenever I see this, all I see are miniatures. I don't buy into the vastness of the Krell technology that was intended. Am I alone in this?
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Gotta disagree with you there, Johnny Angell. I thought it was quite well done.
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