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post #91 of 215

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My question is the people calling bullsh*t on other forums, have they even listened to them?
post #92 of 215

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Originally Posted by Jeff Adams
My question is the people calling bullsh*t on other forums, have they even listened to them?

I don't think it has to do with the actual speakers. I said earlier in the thread that if Parker says they're good, then that's good enough for me. The bullsh*t part has more to do with people involved with the company posting reviews as if they were just joe schmoe consumer. That's a bit disingenous, and that's what people on the other forum were noting.
post #93 of 215

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Originally Posted by AlanZ
There may not be a consipracy going on, but I think there has been more than enough reason for some people to call bullsh*t on some of these posts.

Hell, I've even seen people in ANOTHER forum calling bullsh*t on some of what's been said here.

Parker has stated he believes the speakers are a good value, check his posts for his terminology, that is my take on what he has stated. Others claim to own them and like them. All that is relevant is are the speakers worthy of praise in the price range. Unless we know there are bogus posts here from company representatives or someone that stands to benefit from sales, I believe the speakers appear to be a good deal. In a few years we might even have some idea if they are built to last. I am looking forward to more first hand testimony.

Chris
post #94 of 215

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Are these sold with a money back guarantee? According to Sound Distributors website, apparently not.
post #95 of 215

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Well after spending a full day with them yesterday, I can safely say that I am pretty impressed with them. For the money there really is no competition. I am giving them some more break in time to really crank them up to see what they can do but I did throw some more volume at them yesterday, had my receiver up to about -15 and put in some Mighty Mighty Bosstones and they sounded very good. I am impressed with their crisp clear highs and the detail I am hearing from them.
post #96 of 215

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What have you compared them too?
post #97 of 215

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Originally Posted by Luis Gabriel Gerena
What have you compared them too?

Luis,

See my thread on my first impressions of the PA 6F'S
post #98 of 215

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Originally Posted by Luis Gabriel Gerena
What have you compared them too?

Here is my full review.

Hello all. I know some of you have been anxious for me to give my impressions on what I thought on these speakers and the wait is over. I actually didn't have to wait long at all for my purchase to arrive. I ordered a set of towers from Eric on Monday morning and received them yesterday. I would have got them on Thursday however my city got hit with a major blizzard that day and UPS couldn't get them to me. That figures.
Anyway I got them late last night so didn't have a lot of chance to play with them too much.

I'll start out by saying, Eric has been a great guy to work with, very helpful and made my purchase a breeze. Great customer service, especially when ordering on line is huge for me and so far I have been very impressed in that area.

Packaging.

They came in the original Premier Acoustic packaging, no repackaging or anything like that. The boxes were perfect, other than them being a little dirty from shipping. They weren't smashed up or torn up.
The speakers were wrapped in plastic and there was styrofoam blocks in there to prevent the speakers from shifting around during shipping. Again, impressed with how they were packaged.

Appearance and build quality

I have had black speakers for over 10 years now. PSB Stratus Silver I's, piano black finish, PSB Image 6T's, black wood and my latest SVS SBS-01 black. I decided this time to go with the cherry finish and I can say that I am very glad that I did. They look very nice and adds a touch of warmth and class to my room. And the wood is real. What also add's a nice classy touch is the top of the cabinets are finished in a piano black lacquer finish. Very nice! This is a very good looking speaker. Each tower is pretty heavy too, they are built very solid. I gave both towers a thorough visual inspection, looking for any nicks,gouges, chips,scrapes, basically anything not pleasing to the eye. I found nothing,they were flawless.
The binding posts on the back are also solid. No spring loaded connections here. I have always gone with bare wire and I used some very thick and expensive monster cable speaker wire to hook them up, the wire went through the binding posts and I was able to secure them down without any problem.

Set up.

I moved my SVS SBS-01's to the rear for a complete 7.1 surround set up. I still have the center channel speaker from the SVS system in place and PSB image left and right surrounds. Talk about mixing and matching. However I feel the rears and surrounds are not as big of a deal to match as the front soundstage. All in due time will the entire setup be Premier acoustics.
I recalibrated my system and set my Marantz SR-9200 receiver to THX specs. This receiver is one sweet receiver and really the pride of my entire system, it sends out 140 wpc x 7. So all speakers are set to small and everything below 80hz goes to my AAD C-10 sub.

Listening test.

Okay, okay, so now to the part everyone wants to know about. How do these things sound? Simply put, amazing. Absolutely amazing.

I always start out my listening test with my receiver set to two channel, source direct mode. In this mode I get a pure audio signal with my subwoofer shut off. This gives me a good indication on how pure a speaker can sound by itself with no help. That was what I had my receiver set to most of the night. I played a couple of my favorite cd's and ones that I am very familiar with. Ben Harper, Both Sides of the Gun and Chris Botti Night Sessions.
Both cd's are very musical and give you a wide variety of instruments.
These towers gave me a huge soundstage with a great deal of imaging. I sit about 11ft back from the speakers. Ben Harpers vocals were right in the middle of the room, even when not sitting in the sweet spot, the imaging was still there. Chris Botti's trumpet was clean clear and crisp. The tweeter in this tower was smooth and detailed. It was not bright or fatiguing in anyway. Also the towers gave me a tight punchy mid bass that I have been looking for.
Mid bass was produced with some kick and sounded defined. Not boomy or distorted. I really didn't get a lot of time with them nor did I really push them hard at all. I think the highest I had my receiver turned up to was about -25. I want to give them a chance to break in before I really give them a workout and a full review. But from what I have heard and seen so far, these things are winners. And hopefully some of you will hear them for yourself. At the price these are going at, there isn't anything even close that can touch them. So far I am one very happy customer and look forward to adding the rest of the system to my home. I have listened to a variety of different speakers as of late and these so far have impressed me the most, especially when it comes down to price. I have listened to speakers costing four times this amount and the Premier Acoustics sounded just as good as those and in most cases a lot better.

I will give a more in depth review in a couple of weeks.


For reference this is what I have auditioned as of late,
Klipsch RF-82's
Era Design 4
SVS-SBS-01
Mirage Omnisat V2
Monitor Audio Silver RS 6
System Audio, forgive me, forget the model. $2000 set of towers though.
Infinity Beta 50's
post #99 of 215

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Originally Posted by Tony Genovese
Are these sold with a money back guarantee? According to Sound Distributors website, apparently not.

Absolutely. If I wasn't happy I can send them back, Eric has offered that to me on everything I have purchased. Don't think I am going to take him up on it though.
post #100 of 215

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Per ur review Jeff and Parker's, I have recommended them to a friend going FP. The nice thing is, I get to play with them first!
post #101 of 215

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Eric,

You two won't be disappointed. I am liking my towers more and more everyday. I also should be receiving the PA-6S surrounds today. Will give my impressions on those as well.
post #102 of 215

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This thread made me curious. Anyone know who to contact in order to get a demo pair? I am about to review/compare (just like I did recently) my HTD Level 3 Center, Onix X-CS (center) and the non yet released Onix X-SLS tower. Mark Schifter at av123 has been really amazing sending me 3 centers and the towers for me to review and want to have a third player which will be either Ascend, Axiom or Fluiance but if Premier Acoustics wants to join then I will make it a four way comparison (anymore than that and it would be too hard for me).
Regards
post #103 of 215

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Originally Posted by Luis Gabriel Gerena
This thread made me curious. Anyone know who to contact in order to get a demo pair? I am about to review/compare (just like I did recently) my HTD Level 3 Center, Onix X-CS (center) and the non yet released Onix X-SLS tower. Mark Schifter at av123 has been really amazing sending me 3 centers and the towers for me to review and want to have a third player which will be either Ascend, Axiom or Fluiance but if Premier Acoustics wants to join then I will make it a four way comparison (anymore than that and it would be too hard for me).
Regards

Luis: Page #2...Post #42. CLick HERE.
post #104 of 215

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Cool! I talked to him and he was really good to deal with. I will be reviewing his speakers as well. :-)
post #105 of 215

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Originally Posted by Luis Gabriel Gerena
This thread made me curious. Anyone know who to contact in order to get a demo pair? I am about to review/compare (just like I did recently) my HTD Level 3 Center, Onix X-CS (center) and the non yet released Onix X-SLS tower. Mark Schifter at av123 has been really amazing sending me 3 centers and the towers for me to review and want to have a third player which will be either Ascend, Axiom or Fluiance but if Premier Acoustics wants to join then I will make it a four way comparison (anymore than that and it would be too hard for me).
Regards

I hope you get a pair of the PA-6F'S. Curious to hear your opinion on them. I would also be very interested in what your thoughts on the Ascends are because I did have it narrowed down to the Ascend 340 SE'S, the Rocket RS-450 and the Axiom M-60'S. That was until I took the chance on the PA's.
post #106 of 215

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Originally Posted by Jeff Adams
I hope you get a pair of the PA-6F'S. Curious to hear your opinion on them. I would also be very interested in what your thoughts on the Ascends are because I did have it narrowed down to the Ascend 340 SE'S, the Rocket RS-450 and the Axiom M-60'S. That was until I took the chance on the PA's.
Yes I will have those and I will post pics of all the speakers together as well. I havent heard from Ascend yet but hopefully they will contact me soon.
Regards
post #107 of 215

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For anyone interested we are doing a holiday give away on 2 complete 5.1 systems. simply link to the page below for details!! Have a great day.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...emier+acoustic
post #108 of 215

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Ok.......so any news on these speakers? I will be a in a small room(12x12 office) so I was thinking about Bi amping the fronts, using a center, sub and surrounds. I will be driving the system with pioneer 84TXSi. I am trying to make up my mind between that one and the Yamaha 2700. Any feedback would be helpful and appreciated.


Thanks
post #109 of 215

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Originally Posted by aht3
Ok.......so any news on these speakers? I will be a in a small room(12x12 office) so I was thinking about Bi amping the fronts, using a center, sub and surrounds. I will be driving the system with pioneer 84TXSi. I am trying to make up my mind between that one and the Yamaha 2700. Any feedback would be helpful and appreciated.


Thanks


Unfortunately Luis's review of the PA setup was not as favorable as I had been hoping. I'm in the same boat as you. I just picked up a new reciever and I need an set of speakers to go with it (looking for 5.1). I had a lot of hope for the PA HT system, not that Luis has taken them off the list for me but now I'm going to have to sit back and wait for a couple more people to try them out.

I do think in his review Luis got caught up on some HTD towers that cost only about $100 less then the entire PA 5.1 setup. Which may have been a little unfair to the PA speakers.
post #110 of 215

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First of all remember that this is just MY opinion and doesnt mean everyone will feel the same. Still, I think most people that compare all 3 speakers together will hear that the PAs are not in the same level..not even close. The way I heard it and see it (built quality no where near Onix or HTD), for the PA package price or a little more, you can get an HTD or Onix package that will be a lot better in every single area. I really appreciate the Premier Acoustic people's willingness to send me the speakers for this comparison and I feel really bad having to give their speakers such a bad evaluation...but I had to be honest and not let emotions or the "I dont want to be the bad guy" feeling affect my opinion.
Also, the HTD towers werent compare to the PAs...the testing was done on Sunday and the towers arrived on Monday. Check my review and you will see no comments on the towers compared to the PAs.
The PAs were compared to each other and the Onix X-CS, X-SLS and HTD Level 3 Center only.
Regards

I am currently testing the HTD towers but ONLY to the X-SLS and HTD Level 3 centers as a reference but price/performance will be taken into consideration.
post #111 of 215

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Originally Posted by Slirp
Unfortunately Luis's review of the PA setup was not as favorable as I had been hoping.

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Originally Posted by Luis Gabriel Gerena
First of all remember that this is just MY opinion and doesnt mean everyone will feel the same.

Luis: Where can I find your review of the speakers? I have been waiting to hear your thoughts. Where do I find them?
post #112 of 215

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You got PM
post #113 of 215

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Luis don't take it as an insult. I definately respect the things you had to say. I have no doublt a $700 set of towers is going to outperform a $300 set of towers any day. I was merely trying to make the point that while you get what you pay for you don't always need everything you get, if you get my drift. I'm looking for a good bang for the buck deal that isn't a little set of 2" cubes.

In reference to your last post, exactly what HTD setup could you get for close to the same price? Not to be rude but they are definately a mid level / mid level price company.
post #114 of 215

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Originally Posted by Slirp
Luis don't take it as an insult. I definately respect the things you had to say. I have no doublt a $700 set of towers is going to outperform a $300 set of towers any day. I was merely trying to make the point that while you get what you pay for you don't always need everything you get, if you get my drift. I'm looking for a good bang for the buck deal that isn't a little set of 2" cubes.

In reference to your last post, exactly what HTD setup could you get for close to the same price? Not to be rude but they are definately a mid level / mid level price company.
Non taken. I wasnt upset I was just clariying that I didnt compare the PA towers to the HTD towers. I compared them to the $319+ship Onix tower, the Onix X-CS $140+ship each and the HTD Level 3 Center $195 shipped each. Even if not comparing them I wouldnt have think they are good towers..they are not. Their bookshelves are actually better.
I didnt understand the question about HTD been mid level/ mid level price...what do you mean?
post #115 of 215

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Luis, I am also interested in your review of these speakers, as I am considering them.

Can you just post the review here?
post #116 of 215

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Originally Posted by Luis Gabriel Gerena
Non taken. I wasnt upset I was just clariying that I didnt compare the PA towers to the HTD towers. I compared them to the $319+ship Onix tower, the Onix X-CS $140+ship each and the HTD Level 3 Center $195 shipped each. Even if not comparing them I wouldnt have think they are good towers..they are not. Their bookshelves are actually better.
I didnt understand the question about HTD been mid level/ mid level price...what do you mean?


I was just saying that if you're in the market for towers that you can't put together a 5.1 system from HTD for close to what you can with PA.

The thing about the Onix speakers you reviewed, to me they look ugly as sin. Maybe they look better in person. I really do want to end up with a set of floor stands as part of my system. I also don't know if my reciever can put out enough power to fill out the HTD's. I only have a 100W per channel you seemed to make it sound in one of the other threads on this board that they need a heap of power to reach their potential.
post #117 of 215

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Originally Posted by Jeff Cooper
Luis, I am also interested in your review of these speakers, as I am considering them.

Can you just post the review here?
I considered posting it here too but I am not sure if I should.

Slirp,
I understand you want towers right? Now is your priority sound or looks? The Onix may not look very pretty but they sound great. I guess it depends what your priority is.
post #118 of 215

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Luis,

I would like to read your review.
post #119 of 215

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From the way it sounds, you were not happy with them. That's too bad. I guess we all have our own opinions though.

I had the day off yesterday and did some more critical listening. I love them. I like there looks, there sound and the build quality.I like everything about them.
post #120 of 215
Thread Starter 

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Louis:

If you have some sort of review of the various speakers you can either post your thoughts on each set up in a single thread where you do a comparison between them or a separate thread on each one. That is up to you. I would post about it in the Speakers area of course.

Parker
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