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The Nativity Story (Dec. 1, 2006)

post #1 of 41
7/12/06 at 1:15pm
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teaser here:

http://www.thenativitystory.com/

going to make so much money this christmas, probably be the top grosser for the holiday season.

Keisha Castle Hughes (Whale Rider) is playing Mary, and it looks like they have apretty young Joseph as well (look at the featurette to see what they look like in the movie, since the teaser is iconic rather than imagery). glad we're getting a realistic age here.

Shohreh Agdashloo is playing the mother of John the Baptist.

Now it'd be really interesting if someone made a movie about the apostles (so that would be post death, and about founding the church, or a story about saul/paul) where they're not played by thirty-fifty somethings, but by the young men most likely were 15-25, by most scholary estimates I've heard.
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post #2 of 41
7/13/06 at 6:55am

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wow that's a big age difference between Shohreh and Keisha, I mean John the Baptist was Jesus's cousin (if I'm remembering correctly) I can't imagine that John's mother and Mary were really all that much difference in age, maybe 10-15 years at the most. (this is my assumption, she could be many years older, but I thought John and Jesus were about the same age, give or take a year or two and I didn't think older women had children back then, though reading the wikipedia page on John the Baptist his father Zacharias lost his voice at the unbelief that he had a son, so maybe she was older...)
Anyway casting looks alright, I'll probably see this as it will probably end up being a church trip.

I agree Adam a movie on the apostles would be interesting. It would be hard to do it in one movie I think though, maybe a mini-series. As long as it's done well and right it would be good.
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post #3 of 41
7/13/06 at 9:37am

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I'd love to see an Adam and Eve (Genesis) movie made using awesome CGI showing how the universe was created, how Adam and Eve were created and the beauty of Eden.

- Colton
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post #4 of 41
7/13/06 at 2:00pm

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This is slightly on-topic, but wasn't there some talk of adapting Milton's Paradise Lost? That could be interesting, but I don't know how well it would go over with some people.
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post #5 of 41
7/13/06 at 2:02pm

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How long before this thread gets locked?

Not long I wager.
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post #6 of 41
7/13/06 at 2:06pm

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Hmm. An awfully blah title.
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post #7 of 41
7/13/06 at 2:11pm

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Now it'd be really interesting if someone made a movie about the apostles (so that would be post death, and about founding the church, or a story about saul/paul) [...]
The mini-series A.D. dealt with precisely this. I LOVED every minute of this thing, but then again, I was a kid. Not sure how I would react today, unfortunately it doesn't appear to be available on DVD.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088471/

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H
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post #8 of 41
7/13/06 at 2:28pm

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Originally Posted by Holadem
The mini-series A.D. dealt with precisely this. I LOVED every minute of this thing, but then again, I was a kid. Not sure how I would react today, unfortunately it doesn't appear to be available on DVD.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088471/

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H

You can get A.D. on DVD through Christian retailers:

http://www.christiancinema.com/catal...roducts_id=740
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post #9 of 41
7/13/06 at 3:16pm
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Re: The Nativity Story (Dec. 1, 2006)

interesting, never head of it.

I imagine the rules that applied to Passion of the Christ and Fahrenheit 9/11 will apply to this thread as well.
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post #10 of 41
7/13/06 at 4:16pm

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Whoa, thanks Larry!

But according to imdb, the thing is 50min x 12 eps = 10h, while christiancinema.com sayz 6h (and the label "6h version" is an acknowledgement of the existence of a longer one)?

I have really fond memories of this series and would love to experience it again.

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H
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post #11 of 41
7/13/06 at 5:18pm

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Originally Posted by Holadem
Whoa, thanks Larry!

But according to imdb, the thing is 50min x 12 eps = 10h, while christiancinema.com sayz 6h (and the label "6h version" is an acknowledgement of the existence of a longer one)?

I have really fond memories of this series and would love to experience it again.

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H


I think this may be an edited version that was shown on the History Channel a few years ago. As I recall they cut out some of the Tiberius/Caligula stuff.
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post #12 of 41
7/13/06 at 5:46pm

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wow that's a big age difference between Shohreh and Keisha, I mean John the Baptist was Jesus's cousin (if I'm remembering correctly) I can't imagine that John's mother and Mary were really all that much difference in age, maybe 10-15 years at the most. (this is my assumption, she could be many years older, but I thought John and Jesus were about the same age, give or take a year or two and I didn't think older women had children back then, though reading the wikipedia page on John the Baptist his father Zacharias lost his voice at the unbelief that he had a son, so maybe she was older...)
Elizabeth was quite a bit older than Mary. Basically, she was too old to have children. If you'll forgive me a few relevant quotes from Luke chapter 1:
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[5] In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron. [6] Both of them were upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord's commandments and regulations blamelessly. [7] But they had no children, because Elizabeth was barren; and they were both well along in years. ... [18] Zechariah asked the angel, "How can I be sure of this? I am an old man and my wife is well along in years."
The fact is (according to the Biblical narrative) the birth of John the Baptist is (almost) as much a miracle as the birth of Jesus, because of Elizabeth's age. There's a reason why both births are announced by angels. Personally, I wonder if Shohreh Aghdashloo is still too young - I would have been tempted to go with someone ten years older, just to make it clear that it is a miracle - but I do like Shohreh, and I think she'll be great in the role, so I am excited by the casting.

There's already a thread about the film, but this one is already longer than that first thread. I think I'll just cut and paste my main comment about the film from that thread.
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Originally Posted by MatthewLouwrens
I'm really looking forward to it.

I remember reading a review of the script somewhere - it's supposed to be very faithful to the story as presented in the Bible, and just adds some of the emotional core to the bones of that text. It supposedly really does well in presenting how a person would react in that type of situation - visited by an angel, told that you've been chosen to give birth to the Son of God, nearly divorced by your fiance because he thought you had been cheating, the fear, the excitement, all the emotions you would expect. It's one of my most anticipated films of the year.
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post #13 of 41
7/14/06 at 6:24am

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I think this may be an edited version that was shown on the History Channel a few years ago. As I recall they cut out some of the Tiberius/Caligula stuff.
That's unfortunate. The Roman intrigues were arguably the best part of the show. I remember Caligula's assassination like it was yesterday.

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H
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post #14 of 41
7/14/06 at 6:34am

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Originally Posted by MatthewLouwrens
Elizabeth was quite a bit older than Mary. Basically, she was too old to have children. If you'll forgive me a few relevant quotes from Luke chapter 1: The fact is (according to the Biblical narrative) the birth of John the Baptist is (almost) as much a miracle as the birth of Jesus, because of Elizabeth's age. There's a reason why both births are announced by angels.

Thanks!

After posting this I was talking about it with a friend, we both found the passage about both Elizabeth and Zacharias being considerably older and that when it was announced to Zacharias that Elizabeth was pregnant that he questioned it, causing him to loose his voice.

Pretty neat stuff if you ask me, guess that's why I wanted to go to school to major in Biblical History. heh. I didn't though...

This teaser trailer hasn't done anything for me, I hope they get something a little more meaty with clips and stuff to show how this is going to look, sound and feel.

The A.D. mini-series sounds interesting, heck it's even got Ian &%@!*^%$ McShane in it. Wow it's got quite the cast in general.
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post #15 of 41
7/14/06 at 9:01am

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Regarding any "IBTL" posts here: The thread will only get closed if personal religious opinions are posted. Just discussing some of the biblical aspects that may be touched by this film -- and how it all relates to the film -- won't cause it to be closed. Just keep the thread the way it is, then fine.
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post #16 of 41
7/14/06 at 2:57pm

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I remember Caligula's assassination like it was yesterday.

Yeah, the stuff with Caligula and Nero were the best parts of the film in many way. If this is the version shown on the History Channel, I think the Caligula assassination scene was cut.
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post #17 of 41
7/15/06 at 1:08am
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Re: The Nativity Story (Dec. 1, 2006)

what does IBTL mean?
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post #18 of 41
7/15/06 at 3:03am

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IBTL = "I beat the lock" or "in before the lock"


IBTL is an acronym used on an internet forum when a poster has judged a thread to be due for locking by an administrator because of its off-topic or offensive content. Use of IBTL is a declaration that the user has "won a race" versus the forum administrator, who is about to close the thread.
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post #19 of 41
7/15/06 at 8:54pm

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It's too bad that they're (apparently) not making an attempt at what the original languages would have been. It would be good to have a film at (or close) to that quality, so they could serve almost as bookends to Jesus's life. I do love how barren the set photos look. Part of what always appealed to me about the story of Jesus's birth is how humble the setting was, what with the manger and all.
I also think Keisha Castle-Hughes was a wonderful choice. In Whale Rider she had a wonderful way of being wise and strong, yet vulnerable at the same time. Her look also defies the pale, blue-eyed vision of Jesus that the West has today.
Here's direct access to the teaser trailer on YouTube
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post #20 of 41
7/16/06 at 10:19am
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I too am disappointed this isn't in Aramaic, that was a big part of the appeal of Passion of the Christ. but this makes the story more accessible for families, and I dont' think Hollywood realized how special the language made Passion feel, it's a factor that probably added substantially to the gross of the film.
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post #21 of 41
7/16/06 at 1:21pm

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I have mixed feelings about how well this film will be presented. The trailer is rather.. cheesy. I worry that this rush for films aimed at drawing in this crowd lead to some "sloppy" filmmaking. I'm not saying this film will be "And God Spoke.." (which, btw, is hilarious), but I do worry that the level of filmmaking is not very good.

If this film is going to do great business, it will need to significantly improve it's marketing fortunes based on the "preview" or whatever you call it at their website.
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post #22 of 41
7/17/06 at 10:45pm

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Thanks, Adam, for the link to the trailer, which I had not yet seen. Quite liked it.
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post #23 of 41
7/18/06 at 1:02pm

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A.D. was a sequel to Jesus of Nazareth.
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post #24 of 41
7/18/06 at 1:35pm

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I don't understand the concern over the teaser, which shows nothing but Mary walking across the desert.
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post #25 of 41
10/7/06 at 6:45am

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In other (quite interesting) news, the marketing team for the Nativity Story probably just messed themselves.

Big Time

Congrats and all that to the happy couple

But I doubt the studio is happy.
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post #26 of 41
10/7/06 at 7:45am

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Could be one of those immaculate conceptions--life imitating art.
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post #27 of 41
10/7/06 at 8:16am

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Hey, it happens. I hope something like this won't keep people from seeing the film(if it's good).
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post #28 of 41
10/7/06 at 10:37am

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Different culture, different expectations. I bet you all of the evangelical financial backers are pissed though.
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post #29 of 41
10/7/06 at 1:26pm

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Here's the trailer: http://progressive.stream.aol.com/ne...DT1_700_dl.mov
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post #30 of 41
10/7/06 at 2:01pm
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Re: The Nativity Story (Dec. 1, 2006)

shrug,

pregnancy happens. Evangelicals can get crazy about it, but it's less worrysome if it's not their own daughter. Besides, it lets them feel superior. If the marketing team spins it all, it should be along the lines of "everyone is fallible, and Keisha isn't as perfect as Mary was. And why are Christians of today trying to 'stone' her figuratively for the same reasons Mary nearly was, literally, back in the day?"

The trailer is fantastic. 60 million opening for this.
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