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post #481 of 1104

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Just saw this article at TSOD regarding Ken Osmond and Frank Bank on the Shokus Internet Radio Show; supposedly the show will speak to the issue of a season 3 release and beyond . . . . .

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Leave-Beaver-Stu's-Show-Lumpy-Eddie/9709

Since the series' living actors were not a part of either the season 1 or 2 releases, I'm not sure whether or not much will come out of this discussion, though you never know. I think the best that we might hope for is if there is some discussion on licensing of the series to an independent . . . . not out of the realm of possibility since the owner of the series, Universal, is currently licensing with at least three companies (Shout! Factory, Arts Alliance America, and Timeless Media).

Gear mentioned in this thread:

Leave It to Beaver - The Complete Second Season
Leave It to Beaver - The Complete First Season
Leave it to Beaver: Season Three
post #482 of 1104

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Nice. It would be nice to get some information on this.

Hopefully, of course, it will be good information on the future of LItB season sets.
post #483 of 1104

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If another company does get this, please make the future seasons on single sided discs.Thats all I ask.
post #484 of 1104

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[quote=Bob Hug]Just saw this article at TSOD regarding Ken Osmond and Frank Bank on the Shokus Internet Radio Show; supposedly the show will speak to the issue of a season 3 release and beyond . . . . .

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Leave-Beaver-Stu's-Show-Lumpy-Eddie/9709

Since the series' living actors were not a part of either the season 1 or 2 releases, I'm not sure whether or not much will come out of this discussion, though you never know. I think the best that we might hope for is if there is some discussion on licensing of the series to an independent . . . . not out of the realm of possibility since the owner of the series, Universal, is currently licensing with at least three companies (Shout! Factory, Arts Alliance America, and Timeless Media)

Did anyone catch this show, and if so, what was said? Thanks in advance.
post #485 of 1104

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THIS news article has it's own thread going...and is making the rounds in other threads.

I first learned of it in the most recent Survivor on DVD thread.

Certainly, I hope it means good news for the Cleavers.
post #486 of 1104

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Originally Posted by Steve...O
Did anyone catch this show, and if so, what was said? Thanks in advance.

Unfortunately, I did not have the chance to catch the show.
post #487 of 1104

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Both Frank and Ken were optimistic that season three and the others would eventually be released, although both were very upset with the way Universal has treated them with regards to their possible involvement with the DVDs. What will probably happen is that Shout Factory or another independent company will pick up the licensing and distribution from Universal, just as they announced that Adam 12's second season will be out this fall via Shout, and just as they have released McHale's Navy in the past.

The program repeats daily at 4 p.m. PDT / 7 p.m. EDT through Tuesday, June 3 at shokusradio.com. Sunday 6/1 it airs at 10:00 a.m. PDT / 1:00 p.m. EDT.
post #488 of 1104

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Im willing to bet anything, that if a company like shout factory gets season 3, they will charge a logical retail of 39.99 , while universal charged 49.99 retail .Not only that , but shout factory will have the class to put them on single sided discs, and manage bonus features.They proved this with mchales navy.I had to wait till amazon had sales on leave it to beaver sets, because of universals crazy price for these.Thankfully in December , I finally got season 2 , when amazon had it 19.99.
post #489 of 1104

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Originally Posted by Tony Zannikos
Im willing to bet anything, that if a company like shout factory gets season 3, they will charge a logical retail of 39.99 , while universal charged 49.99 retail .Not only that , but shout factory will have the class to put them on single sided discs, and manage bonus features.

What you're saying, Tony, appears to be very true, at least based on the recent news article by TSOD of the upcoming release of season 2 of "Adam-12" by Shout! Factory. Universal's release of season 1 of "Adam-12" used the double sided discs, had no extras, and, if I recall correctly, a SRP of $39.99. The new release from Shout! is expected to have some extras (though we don't know yet what they are), single sided discs (Shout!, to the best of my knowledge, has never used a double sided disc) and will have a SRP of $34.99.
post #490 of 1104

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Bob, I really hope that Shout is indeed the company that beaver goes too, ive never had a dvd series from them, that has dissapointed me.
post #491 of 1104

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Originally Posted by stuincalif
Both Frank and Ken were optimistic that season three and the others would eventually be released, although both were very upset with the way Universal has treated them with regards to their possible involvement with the DVDs. What will probably happen is that Shout Factory or another independent company will pick up the licensing and distribution from Universal, just as they announced that Adam 12's second season will be out this fall via Shout, and just as they have released McHale's Navy in the past.

The program repeats daily at 4 p.m. PDT / 7 p.m. EDT through Tuesday, June 3 at shokusradio.com. Sunday 6/1 it airs at 10:00 a.m. PDT / 1:00 p.m. EDT.
:up:

Wiseguy Eddie really is wise I hope.

Just that people are talking about continuing this series is very exciting. I'll grab the S1 & S2 sets next time they are on sale.
post #492 of 1104

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To tell you guys the truth...i hope Shout goes back to redo everything Universal screwed up and put on DVD-18s. Thats right, lets see LitB and Adam-12 DVD-18s redone by Shout, only with extras and on single sided discs.
post #493 of 1104

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Originally Posted by RickER
To tell you guys the truth...i hope Shout goes back to redo everything Universal screwed up and put on DVD-18s. Thats right, lets see LitB and Adam-12 DVD-18s redone by Shout, only with extras and on single sided discs.
If they do that, I hope they wait until they've released all the rest of the seasons to go back to the already released seasons. Even with some special features, the sales would be so low that they might get scared off from continuing onto the unreleased seasons and the show would be in the same place it is now.
post #494 of 1104

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Originally Posted by RickER
To tell you guys the truth...i hope Shout goes back to redo everything Universal screwed up and put on DVD-18s. Thats right, lets see LitB and Adam-12 DVD-18s redone by Shout, only with extras and on single sided discs.

I'd love to see that as well. But I'm doubtful of such a thing. I don't believe that would be financially wise for Shout. They'd almost surely be going to more trouble than it would be worth for them. I mean, sure, I'd double dip if they did this. But I don't think most would, so I can't see them attempting it.

Gary "darn - I was hoping Gord's news today would be about LITB" O.
post #495 of 1104

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Originally Posted by Gary OS
"darn - I was hoping Gord's news today would be about LITB"
Nothing more than a guess (as always) but if Shout Factory bought the rights to a couple of classic shows then they'll probably stagger the releases so all of their classic TV releases aren't all coming out in the same week or month. In other words, it may take a little while to see everything that they have on deck.
post #496 of 1104

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There's something I just don't understand. If Shout (or any company) would acquire "Beaver" (or any abandoned series) thinking it would be profitable for them, why wouldn't Universal think it would be profitable in the first place?

There's some subtlety to this that I'm missing.
post #497 of 1104

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If Shout (or any company) would acquire "Beaver" (or any abandoned series) thinking it would be profitable for them, why wouldn't Universal think it would be profitable in the first place?

Acceptable profit margins?

That would be my guess anyway. It's likely that Universal has a harder-to-obtain acceptable bottom-line profit for its product vs. Shout Factory, which might not set its sights so high.

That's just a guess.

BTW, something interesting regarding "Commentary Tracks" for the LITB DVDs came out of the Eddie/Lumpy interview at Shokus Internet Radio:

Frank Bank ("The Lump") said that he and Ken Osmond ("Eddie"), and possibly other cast members too, were approached about doing Audio Commentary Tracks for Seasons 1 and 2 of LITB by Universal.

Incredibly, Frank also mentioned "Season 3" in this "Commentary" regard, which is pretty hard to believe, since Universal pulled the plug on The Beav after S.2. Although I think Frank might have just misunderstood host Stu Shostak in that "S.3" regard, but I'm not sure. Since everybody insisted upon talking at the same time and stepping on each other's comments throughout much of that radio program, it was difficult to decipher some of what was being said.

But, according to Frank Bank, since Universal refused to pay them a dime for their efforts, Frank (and apparently all others involved too) took a pass and declined to do the audio tracks.

Such a LITB Commentary Track would have been extremely unusual for Universal though (based on the TV-DVDs I have by that company). Because Universal's track record with its "Classic TV" titles has been to release them pretty much bare-bones, sans any Commentaries at all. Isn't this correct? Has Universal put Commentaries on ANY of its TV-on-DVD products? I certainly have none with any extras at all.

Anyway, that remark about Frank and Ken being asked to do a DVD commentary was rather surprising indeed. And surely Frank knew what he was saying. I doubt he was having a severe mental cramp when he said it. Although Ken Osmond, sitting right beside him, didn't say a word. He was totally silent about it.

Then, too, it seemed that "Lumpy" outtalked Edward W. Haskell by quite a large margin in that Shokus radio program.
post #498 of 1104

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I remember reading on this very board that all divisions of General Electric must show at least a 20% profit margin on everything they do. Anything less, even a 19% profit margin, constitutes failure.

I also recall reading how bad their infrastructure was: $5000 to telecine ONE episode of a film-based TV series in-house. Isn't this why we Americans have competition in the first place, to get the best price for services like these?
post #499 of 1104

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Well, about good old Frank Bank. A few years ago he wrote a book about his years on "Beaver" and how many women he "dated" (i.e., had sex with). The whole thing didn't ring true, and sure enough, Tony Dow in an Internet interview a couple of years ago said the book was fiction -- it was what Frank "Lumpy" Bank wished had happened, not what really happened. Therefore, I'm afraid, whatever he says about Season 3 or anything must be suspect.
post #500 of 1104

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
Well, about good old Frank Bank. A few years ago he wrote a book about his years on "Beaver" and how many women he "dated" (i.e., had sex with). The whole thing didn't ring true, and sure enough, Tony Dow in an Internet interview a couple of years ago said the book was fiction -- it was what Frank "Lumpy" Bank wished had happened, not what really happened. Therefore, I'm afraid, whatever he says about Season 3 or anything must be suspect.

Maybe not. Universal may have no doubt been planning ahead for a season 3 release. They must have been expecting reasonably decent sales for "Leave it to Beaver" to go out of their way to release the limited lunch box edition of season one.

"Mary Tyler Moore Show, Season Two" was put on indefinite hold for many months, even though supplemental material had already been created for the release.
post #501 of 1104

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No DVD news unfortunately, but I do want to wish "the Beav" a happy Belated 60th Birthday. At least he doesn't look a day over 10 on TV.

Man, I feel older just knowing that.


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Originally Posted by stuincalif
Both Frank and Ken were optimistic that season three and the others would eventually be released, although both were very upset with the way Universal has treated them with regards to their possible involvement with the DVDs. What will probably happen is that Shout Factory or another independent company will pick up the licensing and distribution from Universal, just as they announced that Adam 12's second season will be out this fall via Shout, and just as they have released McHale's Navy in the past.

The program repeats daily at 4 p.m. PDT / 7 p.m. EDT through Tuesday, June 3 at shokusradio.com. Sunday 6/1 it airs at 10:00 a.m. PDT / 1:00 p.m. EDT.

Thanks for the update! Your show is quite enjoyable by the way, sorry I missed this particular episode.
post #502 of 1104

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Well, even if they wanted to release it now, they would have to make new masters. And that's the last thing on Universal's mind right now.
post #503 of 1104

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I don't know if you guys saw this or not... but the rest of the series may appear soon. I was bored so I just typed in LitB on wiki and I saw that it said Netflix recently added the rest of their series for rental. So I was wondering whether this meant that the rest would be released soon. Here's the link:

Netflix Online Movie Rentals - Rent DVDs, Classic Films to DVD New Releases
post #504 of 1104

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THAT certainly is odd. They are using as pictures for the subsequent season sets a cropped version of the lunch box release of Season 1.

They DO list the following disclaimer, however:

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This movie has not been released on DVD. Future availability is not guaranteed.

But, then again, who would have actually bothered to write the invidividual synopses for each season...such as this for Season 3:

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As his brother Wally's (Tony Dow) love life begins to gain momentum, Beaver (Jerry Mathers) winds up being left home with his parents more often. Throughout this third season, Beav finds himself getting worried about school, teachers and a lost library book. Mother June (Barbara Billingsley) goes to great lengths to protect her youngest son, while father Ward (Hugh Beaumont) tells a few tall tales about his own athletic achievements.

I wouldn't read too much into it. But it is, most certainly, odd.
post #505 of 1104

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I added all fours seasons to my Q, but they are located in a separate section called "Saved DVDs." Under the header, "Availability," it reads, "Unknown." So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens...
post #506 of 1104

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Originally Posted by jacktripper1
I don't know if you guys saw this or not... but the rest of the series may appear soon. I was bored so I just typed in LitB on wiki and I saw that it said Netflix recently added the rest of their series for rental. So I was wondering whether this meant that the rest would be released soon. Here's the link:

Netflix Online Movie Rentals - Rent DVDs, Classic Films to DVD New Releases

Those seasons are available on the Watch Instantly feature on Netflix. A few epsiodes are not available, but the bulk of Seasons 3-6 are there to watch!
post #507 of 1104

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Originally Posted by Jeff Reis
Those seasons are available on the Watch Instantly feature on Netflix. A few epsiodes are not available, but the bulk of Seasons 3-6 are there to watch!
Thanks for the heads-up! I watched the first two season 3 episodes yesterday. I will be very busy on Netflix for the next several weeks!
post #508 of 1104

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Potentially good news for fans of BEAVER...

Movies Unlimited says that a complete series set is coming in 2009.


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Question: ... have you heard anything if they are planning on releasing any more seasons of Leave It To Beaver. Thanks again for all you do.
-- (via email)

Answer: ..... As for the Beav, look for a complete show set sometime in 2009. Gee, Wally.

Keep in mind this is NOT an official announcement from Universal and that "Movie Irv" has been wrong before. Still I doubt he'd publish this without having it sourced from a studio rep. The same column also mentions:

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We’ve heard from a reliable source that many of the MTM-produced TV series like St. Elsewhere and The Mary Tyler Moore Show will receive major DVD boxed sets in 2009. By major, we mean look for sets that include the entire series, which seems to be the latest trend for the TV on DVD phenomenon.

Steve
post #509 of 1104

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Thanks for the info Steve O.This will be awesome news if it turns out to be real.
Especially to get the whole series at once instead of waiting for season by season.
There are a lot of shows out there that have been one and done as far as dvd releases are concerned so to possibly have some shows get a sudden complete release would definately excite fans of their favorite shows.
And even though I have the first two seasons of LITB I will no doubt buy the complete set of the Beav If It suddenly was release.
post #510 of 1104

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It would likely be single-sided, too. It's one of my favorite shows, but I never bought a season. This would be a good way to do it.
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Leave It to Beaver - The Complete Second Season
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