Leave it to beaver season 3? - Page 37

Season 4 episodes of Leave It To Beaver listed by production order:

118. Beaver's House Guest

119. Beaver Becomes A Hero

120. Beaver's Freckles

121. Beaver Won't Eat

122. Beaver's Big Contest

123. Wally, The Lifeguard

124. Beaver's I.Q.

125. Beaver Goes In Business

126. Wally's Glamour Girl

127. Eddie's Double-Cross

128. Miss Landers's Fiance

129. Chuckie's New Shoes

130. Ward's Millions

131. Teacher's Daughter

132. Beaver And Kenneth

133. Beaver's Accordion

134. The Dramatic Club

135. Uncle Billy

136. Beaver's Secret Life

137. Wally's Track Meet

138. Beaver's Old Buddy

139. Beaver's Tonsils

140. The Big Fish Count

141. Mother's Helper

142. Beaver's Poster

143. Wally And Dudley

144. Beaver's Report Card

145. Eddie Spends The Night

146. Wally's Dream Girl

147. Mistaken Identity

148. The School Picture

149. Beaver's Frogs

150. Community Chest

151. Beaver's Rat

152. Kite Day

153. In The Soup

154. Junior Fire Chief

155. Beaver's Doll Buggy

156. Substitute Father

Season 5 episodes of Leave It To Beaver listed by production order:

157. Wally's Weekend Job

158. Wally's Car

159. One Of The Boys

160. Beaver's First Date

161. Wally's Big Date

162. No Time For Baby-Sitters

163. Wally Goes Steady

164. Beaver's Birthday

165. Beaver Takes A Drive

166. Beaver's Cat Problem

167. Weekend Invitation

168. Beaver's Ice Skates

169. Beaver's English Test

170. Wally's Chauffeur

171. Farewell To Penny

172. Ward's Golf Clubs

173. Beaver's Electric Trains

174. Beaver The Bunny

175. Nobody Loves Me

176. Beaver's Laundry

177. Beaver's Long Night

178. Beaver's Jacket

179. Beaver's Fear

180. Eddie Quits School

181. Three Boys And A Burro

182. Wally Stays At Lumpy's

183. The Younger Brother

184. Lumpy's Car Trouble

185. Beaver The Baby-Sitter

186. Beaver's Typewriter

187. Brother vs. Brother

188. The Merchant Marine

189. The Yard Birds

190. Tennis, Anyone?

191. Sweatshirt Monsters

192. A Night In The Woods

193. Stocks And Bonds

194. Long-Distance Call

195. Untogetherness

Season 6 episodes of Leave It To Beaver listed by production order:

196. Wally's License

197. Wally Buys A Car

198. Wally's Dinner Date

199. The Clothing Drive

200. Beaver's Autobiography

201. The Late Edition

202. Eddie, The Businessman

203. Beaver's Football Award

204. Double Date

205. Beaver Joins A Record Club

206. Tell It To Ella

207. Bachelor At Large

208. Beaver, The Sheep Dog

209. Wally's Car Accident

210. Beaver, The Hero

211. The Party Spoiler

212. The Mustache

213. The Parking Attendants

214. More Blessed To Give?

215. Beaver's Good Deed

216. The Credit Card

217. Uncle Billy's Visit

218. Beaver On TV

219. Box-Office Attraction

220. Beaver, The Caddy

221. Lumpy's Scholarship

222. The Silent Treatment

223. Eddie's Sweater

224. Beaver's Prep School

225. Wally And The Fraternity

226. The Book Report

227. The Poor Loser

228. Summer In Alaska

229. Don Juan Beaver

230. Beaver's Graduation

231. Wally's Practical Joke

232. The All-Night Party

233. Beaver Sees America

234. Family Scrapbook

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff 

 

Of course, sometimes the network interferred and rearranged the air order, which clutters up this whole issue.

Sometimes?  Frequently the order in which some series were aired was a network decision, and creators weren't given much input at all.  NBC aired I Dream of Jeannie in such a ridiculous order in early seasons that things are referred to that haven't even happened yet, as when Dr. Bellows tells the IRS auditor that Tony had $3,000,000 in his Christmas fund account, which hadn't aired yet.

There is no "right" or "wrong" in this debate.  Depending on the series, one may work better than the other, but rarely if ever, were either done for any artistic choice or audience consideration.  They were decsions made by execs for particular reasons during those particular weeks.

And or course, the great thing about dvd is that it makes it easier to watch in whatever your preferred order is.      

 

What order to watch the episodes almost has to be decided on an episode by episode basis.

Another example of the air date order being messed up can be found in the soon to come "The Lucy Show - Season 2."

"The Loophole in the Lease" is listed as Season 2, Episode 12, December 23, 1963.

However, it was originally scheduled as Episode 9, November 25, 1963.

All network shows were cancelled on November 25, 1963, the day of President Kennedy's funeral.

Rather than push forward all episodes, they showed "Loophole" on December 23, which was originally scheduled to be a rerun of the Christmas episode from Season 1.

The minor problem with this is that in "Loophole," Lucy refers to what happened in the previous episode, Episode 8, "Lucy Decides to Redecorate."

So, "Loophole" should really be watched in the Episode 9 slot, not Episode 12.

And for those of you who are thinking I need to get a life -- hey, this IS my life! 

Sup!?

I just picked up LITB Season 3!!!!  WOW!!! It is like a dream!  The clarity is stunning!  You can even see the hairspray on the actors and detail everywhere you look!  Some of June's dresses have a glowing affect that kind of fades in and out.  Has anyone noticed this?  A very mild imperfection compared to how the series looks so far!  This is great!

I watched "Beaver's Prize" the other day, and watch the scene in the den, I think it's the scene where Ward is telling Beaver that he can't keep the bike he won by being dishonest.  Does Jerry seem to have a black eye in that scene?  It looks like it!  I am almost positive that it is in that episode, or maybe "School Bus"  But it is definitely Beaver and Ward talking in the Den. If it's not in that episode, it's in the other.

Jack

I think the episode, "Beaver Makes A Loan" is shorter than the others,

I could not find any added scenes between the DVD and TV Land's, or Syndicated versions.  What might be cut from TV is Beaver's football game, where he is playing by himself in the front yard, but I am not sure of this.  Can anyone varify this information?

Jack

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Originally Posted by JohnMor 

 

There is no "right" or "wrong" in this debate.  Depending on the series, one may work better than the other, but rarely if ever, were either done for any artistic choice or audience consideration.  They were decsions made by execs for particular reasons during those particular weeks.

 

And or course, the great thing about dvd is that it makes it easier to watch in whatever your preferred order is.      

 

But the point is the producers have an intended order and then the network has their order to suit the needs of their first broadcast.

STAR TREK should be watched in production order - there's a logical developent to the style and look of the show,the developent of the characters and quality of the scripts.  NBC dictated how the episodes aired heavily - MAN TRAP as the first aired as it had a "monster"? please.

Unless storylines,production or situation forced the producers to shoot out of order (Such as an actors availablity or pregancy) it it should be watched a certain way, then a show should be watched in the order produced as intended.  MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE is one of those shows where they needed to shoot out of order due to pregancy.

I got my season 4 in the mail today. I found it odd that it didnt have a slipcover like season 3.  I wonder if all the 4th season sets are like that.

Whizzing through this set , it has some real standout episodes, besides in the soup. It has Eddie at the top of his game. It also has more interaction, in this season from beaver and wallys friends. If I rated the seasons from favorite to least it would be 4,3 , 2,5,6,1. Although  my  opinion on seasons 5 and 6 could change, when I get those. Havent seen those since 2003

Looks like it's now a bittersweet year for Leave it to Beaver fans. RIP June Cleaver.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=11898270

By BOB THOMAS Associated Press Writer

Barbara Billingsley, who gained the title supermom for her gentle portrayal of June Cleaver, the warm, supportive mother of a pair of precocious boys in "Leave it to Beaver," has died. She was 94.

Spokeswoman Judy Twersky says Billingsley died early Saturday at her home in Santa Monica. She had suffered from a rheumatoid disease.

She acted in a number of roles in movies from the mid-1940s to the mid-1950s, but it wasn't until "Leave it to Beaver" that she became a star.

When the show debuted in 1957, Jerry Mathers, who played Beaver, was 9, and Tony Dow, who portrayed Wally, was 12. Billingsley's character, the perfect stay-at-home 1950s mom, was always there to gently but firmly nurture both through the ups and downs of childhood.

RIP, Barbara.  You were a GREAT TV mom!  And you spoke awesome jive, as well!

Really sad news, but at least she lived a long and complete life.

Here's another chance to pick up Leave it to Beaver complete series cheap. Amazon has it currently on sale for $86.99 and shipping is free.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0038SUBDC/ref=nosim/dvdtalk

Awesome! Thanks for the heads up. Got my set on order now!

 My season 5 dvd set arrived in the mail just moments ago.  Really good timing too, with my 2 week holiday off from work.

I thought some people here might get some use out of this "Leave It To Beaver DVD Quick-Reference Episode Guide" that I created recently.

Even though each of the LITB DVD sets includes a booklet listing the episodes, I think an at-a-glance guide like this one is still useful. I like being able to see all the episodes from all seasons at a quick glance, so I made this list.

Small version.

Larger view.

Nice list by David Von Pein, just too bad the episodes aren't in production order on the DVD's. For continuity purposes, I prefer watching the shows in production order. For those interested, in this thread on pages 36 and 37, I posted a listing of the episodes in order of production.

If watching the episodes by airdate order, sometimes the errors in continuity are obvious. For example, in season 6 the first three episodes produced were Wally stories: "Wally's License", "Wally Buys A Car", and "Wally's Dinner Date". These three episodes obviously are linked together, but original airdates have these episodes separated and to make it worse they were shown in the wrong order. And the 4th episode produced for season 6, "The Clothing Drive", was not aired until the next to last episode of the season. An obvious continuity error there as this is a school based episode when in previous episodes Beaver already had his graduation! There are other continuity errors in the series resulting from episodes not being aired in production order, these from season 6 are just a few examples.

But they didn't want to show three Wally episodes in a row -- that's the entire point!  That's why air order is different from production order.

"The Clothing Drive" is clearly out of place, but my theory on that one was that it was a substandard episode -- by new writers and director, I believe -- and they held off on showing it until the very end of the series, except for the obvious finale "flashback" episode.

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff 

But they didn't want to show three Wally episodes in a row -- that's the entire point!  That's why air order is different from production order.

 

"The Clothing Drive" is clearly out of place, but my theory on that one was that it was a substandard episode -- by new writers and director, I believe -- and they held off on showing it until the very end of the series, except for the obvious finale "flashback" episode.

As the series progressed, Wally was gaining popularity with fans of the show. In the later seasons, Wally became more prominent in the series and a number of episodes were written involving him. By the 6th season, it has been said that Wally was more popular with the fans than Beaver was. So I don't think too many people would have complained had they started of the 6th season properly by airing the three Wally stories which were the first three shows produced for the season. In the 6th season, Beaver was at that awkward age preparing to enter adolescence, Wally was 18 and preparing to enter manhood. At that point, Wally's character was the more interesting of the two.

The Clothing Drive may not be among the best of 6th season episodes, but it's not a bad episode either. Isn't this the episode where June displays a backbone for once and stands up to Ward? Way to go June, speak up and show us that you actually do have a mind of your own after all!  
 

Ward and June are totally out of character in "The Clothing Drive."  It's as if they were thinking of changing them for the 6th season, then changed their minds (thank goodness), and then just threw away the episode at the end of the series.  I think it's the worst episode in the entire series.

Beaver was way too old to be as stupid as he was in that episode.

You may say, in retrospect, that there would have been nothing wrong with starting the 6th season with three Wally episodes in a row.  The problem was it was still called "Leave It to Beaver," and it wouldn't have made much sense.  I think they made the right decision to alternate Wally and Beaver episodes, no matter what order they were filmed in.  The decision processes of "How should we make these?" and "How should we show these?" are two entirely different things, with different variables and reasoning.

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff 

Ward and June are totally out of character in "The Clothing Drive."  It's as if they were thinking of changing them for the 6th season, then changed their minds (thank goodness), and then just threw away the episode at the end of the series.  I think it's the worst episode in the entire series.

 

Beaver was way too old to be as stupid as he was in that episode.

 

You may say, in retrospect, that there would have been nothing wrong with starting the 6th season with three Wally episodes in a row.  The problem was it was still called "Leave It to Beaver," and it wouldn't have made much sense.  I think they made the right decision to alternate Wally and Beaver episodes, no matter what order they were filmed in.  The decision processes of "How should we make these?" and "How should we show these?" are two entirely different things, with different variables and reasoning.

Another 6th season episode where Beaver isn't too bright is the Record Club episode. He should have known better to not ignore the invoices as the records were sent. A few of the last seasons episodes are written as if Beaver is still 10 years old instead of 13. For continuity reasons, I prefer watching the series episodes in order of production.

I've often thought "Leave It To Beaver" is an odd title for the series as Wally also gets plenty of screen time in the episodes. They could have gone the Ozzie & Harriet route, and titled the series "Adventures Of The Cleaver Family". Another title could have been "Growing Up In Mayfield". As it is, the title puts all the attention on Beaver although Wally is featured in many episodes as well.
 

I think at one point early on the show was going to be called Beaver and Wally, or maybe Wally and Beaver.  Wikipedia has it as Wally and the Beaver.

Leave It to Beaver is a trite title.  Only five years earlier there was a flop sitcom on CBS, starring Eddie Albert, called Leave It to Larry.  There had been Broadway musicals called Leave It to Jane and Leave It to Me, and movies entitled Leave It to Blondie, Leave It to Smith, Leave It to Blanche, Leave It to Dad, Leave It to Gerry, Leave It to Harry, Leave It to Henry, Leave It to Lester, Leave It to Smiley and Leave It to Susan.

I remeber Leave it to Blondie, but not the others.