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post #91 of 101
5/14/06 at 9:09am

Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

I watched about 15 minutes of this and couldn't take it anymore. I had to close my eyes for most of the rest of the movie (I would have left if I wasn't with someone). I was fine with the camera work in Bourne Supremacy but this was too much for me.

~T
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post #92 of 101
5/14/06 at 7:21pm
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Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

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Originally Posted by Thi Them
I watched about 15 minutes of this and couldn't take it anymore. I had to close my eyes for most of the rest of the movie (I would have left if I wasn't with someone). I was fine with the camera work in Bourne Supremacy but this was too much for me.

~T

What was too much? The film or the camera work?
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post #93 of 101
5/15/06 at 2:30pm

Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

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Originally Posted by Tino
What was too much? The film or the camera work?

Like me and some others, I think it was the jerkycam that zapped him. I assume that's why he mentioned Supremacy to indicate the camerawork didn't bother him then but did here.

I got sick both times - no more Paul Greengrass flicks for me!
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post #94 of 101
5/15/06 at 2:33pm

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Fantastic, devastating film. The intensity is reminiscent of Gibson's Passion. The writing is just great, and the real-time approach works beautifully. I especially liked the level of detail with which we see the events in the traffic control centers. Great stuff. Using nonactors and no-names was a masterstroke. Greengrass's camerawork too drove me crazy, however; I did have to look away for several moments. Bourne II simply gave me a bad headache; this made me worry about if I would vomit or not (I didn't come close, thankfully). The content and remainder of the film is so overwhelming though, so excellently conceived, that I can't really fault his choice of camerawork. Clearly handheld is the way to go, and I prefer the scope ratio- it allows for stronger compositions, and the inherent contradictions of handheld scope are always exciting to me, but I do feel he goes overboard with shaking the camera, particularly towards the end. Remeber Soderbergh's Traffic, which is also entirely handheld (except 3 shots), and he was able to convey versimilitude without making us throw up. Bloody Sunday (an equally devastating film, one of those movies that can really make you angry), which follows an identical format and approach as United 93, is digestible on the small screen as far as camerawork is concerned. I think U93 will be, for all intents and purposes, a perfect film on dvd.

Regards,
Nathan
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post #95 of 101
5/15/06 at 7:42pm

Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

I found the movie excellent, but very difficult to watch.

My heart rate starting increasing about 15 minutes into it -- right around when the first plane was hijacked, I think -- and it stayed accelerated until the end. And like several others, I felt physically ill from the camera shake during the plane scenes. This was the first movie I've seen where members of the audience (including myself) were not reclining in their seats but rather watching with elbows on knees.

The only minor quibble I had is how the one hijacker got the materials for the fake bomb aboard. It seems as though even pre-9/11 security measures would have detected someone trying to sneak in large batteries, clay bars, and wires in a carry-on bag. I wonder if the methods used by all four of the terrorist "teams" that day were the same. Perhaps the research indicated (through phone calls made by the passengers) that they saw some kind of bomb. It just seemed as though the one in the movie was a bit much.
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post #96 of 101
5/17/06 at 6:53pm

Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

Folks, this is not the thread to bring up/discuss the WTC film.
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post #97 of 101
5/17/06 at 7:55pm

Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

It is a powerful film. Deeply moving and intense. My early Best Picture nominee for the Oscars.

As for the camera work, I hardly noticed the hand held motions. It wasn't distracting but more essential to the film, unlike The Constant Gardener which really annoyed the hell out of me.
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post #98 of 101
5/26/06 at 8:01am

Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

Some rare levity on this topic: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48747

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H
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post #99 of 101
6/4/06 at 5:25pm

Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

I saw the film today and it was very well done. It felt as though a film crew had tagged along with the terrorists and the flight crew and I was watching the events live. Considering the subject matter I thought in advance that the film would be emotionally devastating but it wasn't. The scenes where the passengers were calling their loved ones to say 'I love you' were emotional but even those weren't so bad. I'll admit that there were tears streaming down my face but I've had stronger reactions from 9-11 news footage.
I've heard that the producers called the surviving families of every person that was on every one of those planes and 100% of them were in favor of making the movie. That's a powerful statement.
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post #100 of 101
8/30/06 at 9:49am

Re: *** Official UNITED 93 Discussion Thread (PLEASE READ POST #29!)

watching the dvd now.

i normally hate the shaky cam stuff but i barely thought about it here.

half hour in, and this is as intense a film a have seen in a long time.

i'm surprised there isnt a topic in the dvd section yet.
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post #101 of 101
9/1/06 at 5:26am

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I also just saw this movie for the first time on DVD. Indeed it’s an intense, powerful movie. However I had problems with the beginning of the movie. Maybe the first 30 minutes. I know it’s in real time, but seeing it a second time, I find it difficult to watch. I’m not using the word “boring” because that’s not what I mean and not to mention inappropriate! It’s just too much techno-babble and no human story or getting to know the passengers.

My other major problem is also the way the movie focuses on the terrorists and follows them at the beginning. I think it would have been a lot better if the movie had not started with them and just would have shown them casually from time to time in the airport with the rest of the passengers. To show a more subtle threat than a direct from the start.

Other than that, it’s a very intense movie. It was after the first 30-40 minutes that I fully got into the movie. The ending is also very powerful and elegantly done. For a moment, I thought, wished that they are going to succeed.
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