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EzyDVD in Australia has the Euro cut on sale next week for under $10AU, if anyone's interested.

I gave my original R1 box set (the one with the laser transfers) to a mate when I won the remastered R4 set, but I've been meaning to buy the US Shining since then.

Looks like I'll just get the new R1 box and keep both box sets.
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Has it been confirmed that EYES WIDE SHUT will be the R-rated cut?


As for THE SHINING, I own the "alternate cut" and while it's certainly interesting for fans to see, I think the American version is better.
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The pie fight does still exist on 35mm, at the BFI. I saw it in May. Although it is very good, I do think the film is better without it.

I wasn't saying that the pie fight footage didn't exist. I was saying that when I heard about the BFI screening (thanks for the specifics, I didn't remember what/where it was), I initially dismissed it as BS because I had heard for years, from various places, that Kubrick had destroyed the pie fight footage. It took me a while, and harder evidence than just a guy talking on the Internet, before I believed it.

Given that we now know that Kubrick's alleged destruction of the pie fight footage was not true (for whatever reason, either he saved it, or there was an extant copy somewhere), it makes me wonder whether the similar rumors regarding '2001' and 'The Shining' are true or not. They might be true, but it might also be true that, somewhere in his estate, there exists a film can with those scenes.

I've always been curious to see the pie fight, but Terry Southern and others have convinced me that it was never shot the way Kubrick intended it, so it would really just be for curiosity. I'm also curious whether Kubrick himself ever finished editing the scene.
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As for THE SHINING, I own the "alternate cut" and while it's certainly interesting for fans to see, I think the American version is better.

Yeah, I don't expect it to be a superior cut (if it were, he would surely have made it the primary released cut, or spoken of it as his preferred version, or something). I'm just curious about it. The fact that Kubrick cut it that way himself makes it such a unique oddity. As Adam said, given the prevalence of specious multiple cuts, there would actually be some validity to including this cut on a DVD release.

Also, my understanding is that it has been confirmed everywhere that the unrated 'Eyes Wide Shut' will be released, but there is one site which erroneously claimed that it was the R-rated version. WB said a year or more back that they intended to release the unrated version, I can't imagine why they'd back off of that now.
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Once again I ask.... are the new special editions going to be sold seperately on the 10/23 release date, or ONLY together in the box set? I've still seen no confirmation of this.
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I wasn't saying that the pie fight footage didn't exist. I was saying that when I heard about the BFI screening (thanks for the specifics, I didn't remember what/where it was), I initially dismissed it as BS because I had heard for years, from various places, that Kubrick had destroyed the pie fight footage. It took me a while, and harder evidence than just a guy talking on the Internet, before I believed it.

Given that we now know that Kubrick's alleged destruction of the pie fight footage was not true (for whatever reason, either he saved it, or there was an extant copy somewhere), it makes me wonder whether the similar rumors regarding '2001' and 'The Shining' are true or not. They might be true, but it might also be true that, somewhere in his estate, there exists a film can with those scenes.

I've always been curious to see the pie fight, but Terry Southern and others have convinced me that it was never shot the way Kubrick intended it, so it would really just be for curiosity. I'm also curious whether Kubrick himself ever finished editing the scene.

Sorry I misread you.
I handled the film myself on a flatbead. It was a composite optical print which appeared to have no splices, if that is any clue. The footage prior and after the scene was blank film and optical sound.
If you tell the BFI that you plan to write about it I think they will let you view it.
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Once again I ask.... are the new special editions going to be sold seperately on the 10/23 release date, or ONLY together in the box set? I've still seen no confirmation of this.
I thought I read that all but Full Metal Jacket would be available as separate releases for $26.98 apiece.
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Yes, Bill, you are right - "THE SUBJECT WAS ROSES" is the video I recently watched and it definitely opened with the blue lion logo. So wikipedia is wrong.

I have a vhs copy of THE STRAWBERRY STATEMENT that I'll check out later to see what logo it opens with. I don't have "STANLEY SWEETHEART" and have never seen "GRAND PRIX".

EDIT: I just checked my original MGM-UA Video vhs release of "THE STRAWBERRY STATEMENT" and it opens with the standard roaring lion.

I just updated the wiki page -- with luck, the changes will stick.
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Thanks, Mark. I still think they're wrong about "Grand Prix", though. I always thought "2001" was the first time the blue logo was ever seen. The New York Times review even took notice of it, right in the opening sentence, as being something new:

"EVEN the M-G-M lion is stylized and abstracted in Stanley Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey," a film in which infinite care, intelligence, patience, imagination and Cinerama have been devoted to what looks like the apotheosis of the fantasy of a precocious, early nineteen-fifties city boy."
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I handled the film myself on a flatbead.

That's pretty cool.

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It was a composite optical print which appeared to have no splices, if that is any clue. The footage prior and after the scene was blank film and optical sound.

It doesn't neccessarily clarify how final the cut was, but it sounds as if it got pretty far with it. That is really interesting.

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If you tell the BFI that you plan to write about it I think they will let you view it.

Great, so I just have to make it over to England...

Hopefully, the other "lost" footage is just as findable as this was.

Thanks for the info.
post #161 of 397

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As for THE SHINING, I own the "alternate cut" and while it's certainly interesting for fans to see, I think the American version is better.
Absolutely. As someone that lives in New Zealand, where the European cut is the standard version, when I ordered the US version it was just such an astonishing difference. So much of what was cut seems fairly key plot material, setting up later plot elements, that I don't know what Kubrick could have been thinking.

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The pie fight does still exist on 35mm, at the BFI. I saw it in May. Although it is very good, I do think the film is better without it.
I would love to see the pie fight. It just seems like such a strange element to include in the film that I cannot work how how it would have fit.
post #162 of 397

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Info on THE SHINING from fangoria.com :

A 10 disc boxset (SD I presume) will also include LOLITA, BARRY LYNDON and A LIFE IN PICTURES. (Not sure how that adds up, given 2001, CO, THE SHINING AND EWS are all 2-discs, and there's FULL METAL JACKET as well. Should be 12 discs surely?)

THE SHINING will be presented in an anamorphic 1.78:1 transfer (uh-oh) with Dolby 5.1 Surround audio and accompanied by an audio commentary by Steadicam inventor Garrett Brown and Kubrick biographer John Baxter (which is odd as I seem to remember the family being somewhat upset with Baxter for the inaccuracy of his book).

The second disc will include:

• The Making of THE SHINING, with optional commentary by Vivian Kubrick (from the previous DVD)
• New View from The Overlook: Crafting THE SHINING featurette
• New The Visions of Stanley Kubrick featurette
• New Wendy Carlos, Composer featurette

Retail price is $20.97, and there will also be HD-DVD and Blu-ray versions, each retailing for $28.99. The complete DIRECTOR’S SERIES: STANLEY KUBRICK box will be $79.92.

Good news about the commentary, though the word "featurette" is a bit ominous. Sounds like a Paramount release. Hope they've used some of the MAKING THE SHINING out-takes.
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It looks like, as expected, Barry Lyndon and Lolita aren't getting jack right now, but what a great set of supplements the other discs are getting.

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Burbank, Calif. August 6, 2007 – On October 23, Warner Home Video will launch the first in their new series featuring influential films from some of history’s greatest directors. Warner Home Video Director’s Series: Stanley Kubrick is a new six-film, 10-disc widescreen and newly-remastered collection that includes Special Editions of 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining and Full Metal Jacket Deluxe Edition, along with the full-length documentary, A Life in Pictures.

2001: A Space Odyssey has been newly remastered; A Clockwork Orange, Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining and Full Metal Jacket, also remastered, debut in their original widescreen theatrical aspect ratios. All releases have been created in collaboration with, and approved by, the estate of Stanley Kubrick. The collection sells for $79.92 SRP on DVD. Single discs will be available at various prices (see below for details). The films are also available on HD and BD as singles ($28.99 SRP).

The films in the Warner Home Video Director’s Series: Stanley Kubrick also represented landmarks for such stars as Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Jack Nicholson, Malcolm McDowell, Vincent D’Onofrio, Matthew Modine and others. Enhanced with hours of insightful and in-depth special features these Special Editions include commentaries, documentaries, rare interviews with Stanley Kubrick and special new featurettes that offer a rare look into the mind of the master filmmaker. The 10 Disc set also includes the bonus documentary A Life in Pictures, narrated by Tom Cruise, which details Kubrick’s early life, at work and at home, with candid commentary from collaborators, colleagues and family.

The Eyes Wide Shut Special Edition includes both the Rated and Unrated versions, along with the all-new featurette “Lost Kubrick: The Films That Never Were.” Separate from this Collection, other Kubrick titles available from WHV include Barry Lyndon and Lolita.

About the Films

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

Stanley Kubrick’s dazzling, Academy AwardÒ-winning achievement (Special Visual Effects) is an allegorical puzzle on the evolution of man and a compelling drama of man vs. machine. Featuring a stunning meld of music and motion, the film was also Oscar® nominated for Best Director and Best Screenplay. Kubrick (who co-wrote the screenplay with Arthur C. Clarke) first visits the prehistoric age-ancestry past, then leaps millennia (via one of the most mind-blowing jump cuts ever) into colonized space, and ultimately whisks astronaut Bowman (Keir Dullea) into uncharted space, perhaps even into immortality.

DVD Special Features:

Disc One

· Commentary by Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood

· Theatrical trailer

Disc Two

· Channel 4 documentary: 2001: The Making of a Myth

· Standing on the Shoulders of Kubrick: The Legacy of 2001

· Vision of a Future Passed: The Prophecy of 2001

· 2001: A Space Odyssey - A Look Behind the Future

· 2001: FX and Early Conceptual Artwork

· Look: Stanley Kubrick!

· Audio-only interview with Stanley Kubrick

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

A Clockwork Orange (1971)

Stomping, whopping, stealing, singing, tap-dancing, violating. Derby-topped hooligan Alex (Malcolm McDowell) has a good time – at the tragic expense of others. His journey from amoral punk to brainwashed proper citizen and back again forms the dynamic arc of Kubrick’s future-shock vision of Anthony Burgess’ novel. Controversial when first released, the film garnered three Academy Award nominations – Best Picture, Best Director and Best Screenplay. Its power still entices, shocks and mesmerizes today.

DVD Special Features:

Disc One

· Commentary by Malcolm McDowell and historian Nick Redman

· Theatrical trailer

Disc Two

· Channel 4 documentary: Still Tickin’: The Return of Clockwork Orange

· New featurette: Great Bolshy Yarblockos! Making A Clockwork Orange

· Career profile: O Lucky Malcolm!

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Eyes Wide Shut (1999)

Kubrick’s daring and controversial last film is a bracing psychosexual journey through a haunting dreamscape, a riveting suspense tale and a career milestone for stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Cruise plays a doctor who plunges into an erotic foray that threatens his marriage – and may ensnare him in a murder mystery – after his wife’s (Kidman) admission of sexual longings. As the story sweeps from doubt and fear to self-discovery and reconciliation, Kubrick orchestrates it with masterful flourishes. His graceful tracking shots, rich colors and startling images are some of the bravura traits that show Kubrick as a filmmaker for the ages.

DVD Special Features:

Disc One

· Scene specific commentary by Sydney Pollack and historian Peter Loewenberg

· Theatrical trailer and TV spots

Disc Two

· Channel 4 documentary: The Last Movie: Stanley Kubrick and Eyes Wide Shut

· Lost Kubrick: The Unfinished Films of Stanley Kubrick

· Kubrick’s 1998 DGA D.W Griffith Award acceptance speech

· Interview gallery featuring Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, and Steven Spielberg

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Full Metal Jacket (1987)

A superb ensemble falls in for Stanley Kubrick’s brilliant saga about the Vietnam War and the dehumanizing process that turns people into trained killers. The scathing indictment of a film was nominated for an Academy Award® for Best Screenplay. Joker (Matthew Modine), Animal Mother (Adam Baldwin), Gomer (Vincent D’Onofrio), Eightball (Dorian Harewood) and Cowboy (Arliss Howard) are some of the Marine recruits experiencing boot-camp hell under the punishing command of the foul-mouthed Sergeant Hartman (R. Lee Ermy). The action is savage, the story unsparing, and the dialogue is spiked with scathing humor.

DVD Special Features:

· Commentary by Adam Baldwin, Vincent D’Onofrio, R. Lee Ermey and Jay Cocks

· New Featurette: Full Metal Jacket: Between Good and Evil

· Theatrical trailer

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

The Shining (1980)

From a script he co-adapted from the Stephen King novel, Kubrick melds vivid performances, menacing settings, dreamlike tracking shots and shock after shock into a milestone of the macabre. The Shining is the director’s epic tale of a man in a snowbound hotel descending into murderous delusions. In a signature role, Jack Nicholson (“Heeeere’s Johnny!”) stars as Jack Torrance, who’s come to the elegant, isolated Overlook Hotel as off-season caretaker with his wife (Shelley Duvall) and son (Danny Lloyd).

DVD Special Features:

Disc One

· Commentary by Garrett Brown and John Baxter

· Theatrical trailer

Disc Two

· Documentary The Making of the Shining, with optional commentary by Vivian Kubrick

· Three new featurettes: View from The Overlook: Crafting the Shining, The Visions of Stanley Kubrick, and Wendy Carlos, Composer

· Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Stanley Kubrick – A Life in Pictures

Produced and directed by longtime Kubrick associate Jan Harlan, this full-length documentary includes footage and personal photographs made available by Christiane Kubrick, the director’s wife of more than 42 years. The film paints a surprisingly accessible portrait of Kubrick, giving a strikingly different view of the man and what influenced him as a filmmaker. Among the long list of actors, friends and colleagues paying tribute are Woody Allen, Sir Arthur C. Clarke, Shelley Duvall, Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Christiane Kubrick, Paul Mazursky, Malcolm McDowell, Matthew Modine, Jack Nicholson, Alan Parker, Sydney Pollack, Richard Schickel, Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg, Douglas Trumbull and Sir Peter Ustinov.

Barry Lyndon (1975)

Redmond Barry is a young, roguish Irishman who's determined, in any way, to make a life for himself as a wealthy nobleman. Enlisting in the British Army, fighting in the Seven Years War in Europe, Barry deserts from the British army, joins the Prussian army, gets promoted to the rank of a spy, then becomes pupil to a Chevalier and con artist/gambler. Barry then lies, dupes, duels and seduces his way up the social ladder and enters into a lustful but loveless marriage to a wealthy countess named Lady Lyndon, takes the name of Barry Lyndon, settles in England with wealth and power beyond his wildest dreams, then slowly falls

Lolita (1962)

Humbert Humbert, a divorced British professor of French literature, travels to small-town America for a teaching position. He allows himself to be swept into a relationship with Charlotte Haze, his widowed and sexually famished landlady, whom he marries in order that he might pursue the woman's 14-year-old flirtatious daughter, Lolita, with whom he has fallen hopelessly in love, but whose affections shall be thwarted by a devious trickster named Clare Quilty.
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Would someone please post a link to where I can buy the Euro cut of THE SHINING ? Perhaps a scan of the cover?

Many thanks.
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Would someone please post a link to where I can buy the Euro cut of THE SHINING ? Perhaps a scan of the cover?
You'll need to be able to play PAL, but Amazon.co.uk have it for £4.97 at the moment.

Alternatively, it's also the cut available in Australia, and EzyDVD have it for $AU9.92.
Interestingly, EzyDVD have this note on the title:
Please Note: This title has been edited and is missing footage from the Director's cut.
Which technically isn't true, since (if I remember correctly) the European version was edited after the US release, so the EUropean is the last one Kubrick was working on, and so would surely be the director's cut.
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They better put out new versions of Barry Lyndon and Lolita by the end of 2008. While I am extremely happy to get the new five remasters (on Blu-ray, no less), I am very disappointed that I won't be able to catch the other two - especially Barry Lyndon - in Hi-Def.
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Obviously, owning these brilliant movies on HD is a cause for rejoicing, as are the commentary tracks. I'm a little disappointed though, that WB haven't made their own documentaries. Admittedly that's because I already have copies of the C4 docs; all of them are fine, especially the one for EWS, but none of them will surprise you with their content. And the documentary on Malcolm McDowell, O Lucky Malcolm!, has already been announced for inclusion in the O Lucky Man! Special Edition, which would seem a far more suitable place for it.

Furthermore, Vivian Kubrick was making a documentary for FULL METAL JACKET much as she did for THE SHINING. You can see some clips from it in the LIFE IN PICTURES doc. But the one-disc release and the word "featurette" (which implies a runtime of under twenty minutes, imo) suggests that we won't be seeing much more of it. And why not use seamless branching to let RI fans see the shorter European version of THE SHINING? It might sound blasphemous, but you could make a case for it being the better version. I'm sure you'd be interested to see it.

I don't want to sound ungrateful, and I may just be comparing it to the BLADE RUNNER specs, but I was really hoping WB were going to go to town on
these editions, especially as it's going to be a triple-dip for many of us, after the debacle of the first release (remember that?). This was a real chance to open up the archives and provide a definitive look into the Kubrick mythology. A movie like EYES WIDE SHUT deserves more than a scene-specific commentary, if only to unlock its mysteries for people who didn't appreciate it. I'd love to hear someone like Scorsese provide a commentary on it - I'm sure he'd have done it; was he even approached?

Obviously it's all a huge improvement on the bare-bones releases but so far the specs, if accurate, give me the feeling that this release will be three-quarters-assed at best, and sound calculated to give WB a few more bites at the HD cherry.

If wrong, I will happily eat my words.
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...and the word "featurette" (which implies a runtime of under twenty minutes, imo) suggests ...

the runtime is 30 minutes: FULL METAL JACKET - BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL

GREAT BOLSHY YARBLOCKOS: MAKING A CLOCKWORK ORANGE runs 28 minutes
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You'll need to be able to play PAL, but Amazon.co.uk have it for £4.97 at the moment.

Alternatively, it's also the cut available in Australia, and EzyDVD have it for $AU9.92.
Interestingly, EzyDVD have this note on the title:
Please Note: This title has been edited and is missing footage from the Director's cut.
Which technically isn't true, since (if I remember correctly) the European version was edited after the US release, so the EUropean is the last one Kubrick was working on, and so would surely be the director's cut.

Thanks for your very prompt reply.
I can play PAL and I own many region 2 DVD's of films that are unavailable in the USA.

I'm content with the remastered LOLITA, but I'll add my voice to the chorus of disappointment over BARRY LYNDON.
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Originally Posted by Anthony Neilson
Obviously, owning these brilliant movies on HD is a cause for rejoicing, as are the commentary tracks. I'm a little disappointed though, that WB haven't made their own documentaries. Admittedly that's because I already have copies of the C4 docs...Obviously it's all a huge improvement on the bare-bones releases but so far the specs, if accurate, give me the feeling that this release will be three-quarters-assed at best, and sound calculated to give WB a few more bites at the HD cherry.

I can see why you're not quite as pleased as I am if you already have the C4 docs, but I think these editions will be considered definitive for quite some time. A commentary track and 90 to 150 minutes of supplements for each two-disc set strikes me as an entirely whole-assed endeavor.
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The announcement of an HD "2001" may be just the thing to get me off the fence and buy a BD player. As big a fan of "2001" that I am, I never bought any of the DVD releases because they always seemed to be lacking. Looking forward this one but I'll always keep my Criterion CAV LD as it was the first Criterion title I ever bought.
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So I take it the "Life In Pictures" Doc won't be available outside of the set. Does this mean if you want to get the films in Hi-Def, you're out of luck on the Doc?
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So I take it the "Life In Pictures" Doc won't be available outside of the set.

Click
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I think the specs sound pretty good, even if they're not up to my imagination. For example, one of the biggest reasons for putting out a special edition of 2001: A Space Odyssey in my opinion would have been to get Arthur C. Clarke to come in and record a commentary before he passes (it's a shame to admit that he probably doesn't have much longer left with us). So hopefully they were able to interview him and his memories on the making of the film are recorded and preserved on this set. Also, I would've liked a feature that included Alex North's original score for the film, though I am aware that it's available on a CD conducted by Jerry Goldsmith.
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I think the specs sound pretty good, even if they're not up to my imagination. For example, one of the biggest reasons for putting out a special edition of 2001: A Space Odyssey in my opinion would have been to get Arthur C. Clarke to come in and record a commentary before he passes (it's a shame to admit that he probably doesn't have much longer left with us). So hopefully they were able to interview him and his memories on the making of the film are recorded and preserved on this set. Also, I would've liked a feature that included Alex North's original score for the film, though I am aware that it's available on a CD conducted by Jerry Goldsmith.

They're not even including the Arthur Clark featurette and the trailer that were on the original MGM disc. Geez.
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Also, I would've liked a feature that included Alex North's original score for the film, though I am aware that it's available on a CD conducted by Jerry Goldsmith.

Alex North's original tracks have also (recently) been released on a limited edition CD from Intrada - and it's brilliant.

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c....t.A/id.5228/.f

It would have been PERFECT to have included North's original score on an isolated track, but apparently Warners weren't interested :-(
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Where's the artwork for Eyes Wide Shut and Full Metal Jacket?
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At least FMJ is not the "You can go ahead and fuck my sister" edition.
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Will LOLITA be anamorphic?
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DvdTimes.co.uk has the artwork for the boxset.
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