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post #31 of 55
1/27/06 at 1:45pm
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Who cares if they use hip lingo to do it.

It matters if they (ESPN) risk alienating their core demographic for this program. Any and all catch phrases will eventually grow tired and grate on listeners' nerves.
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Look at Fox Sports Net and "The Worst Damn Sports Show Period". That show rarely, if ever even covers actual sports.

It's not meant to be a direct competitor with Sportscenter; one is intended to offer a summary / highlights of the day's sporting events (Sportscenter), while the other is a free-format talk show.
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post #32 of 55
6/12/09 at 8:54am

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I was just reminded of this thread, when I saw that the Jonas Brothers were going to do the Top 10 on Sportscenter. I didn't bother watching. If I wanted to see them, I'll watch Disney Channel or MTV. Enough already!

I'll occasionally watch Baseball Tonight, but that's about it, outside of the actual games. But they will continue to piss on sports, as they have been, since Disney bought it.
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post #33 of 55
6/12/09 at 10:59am

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Originally Posted by Charlie Campisi
I can't believe you guys like Mike and Mike. They've gotten better, but they are pretty awful, imo. Golic is just painful to listen to. He can't put a coherent sentence together. I was hoping their extended holiday break would be permanent. Mark Schlereth and Eric Casilias (sp?) were hands down much better. Mike and Mike do get great guests though.

I can't stand the two morons either. My main gripe with them is about 80-90%of the time they are talking out of thier backend. Like the rest of ESPN they let personal bias's and not actual facts persuade thier discussions of real sports. At other times the two are usually wasting on air space doing stupid publicity stunts, such as leg waxing.

My other big complaint about ESPN, is thier never-ending coverage about FAVRE. It has got so bad, they are now just making reports up, in a silly attempt for ratings.
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post #34 of 55
6/12/09 at 11:09am

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The entertainment aspect of ESPN was IMO at its peak back when Olberman and Patrick were at the helm (and teamed). Since then, this aspect of the show has gotten progressively worse, with a few bright spots every now and then.
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post #35 of 55
6/12/09 at 11:14am

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Originally Posted by Walter C
I was just reminded of this thread, when I saw that the Jonas Brothers were going to do the Top 10 on Sportscenter. I didn't bother watching. If I wanted to see them, I'll watch Disney Channel or MTV. Enough already!

Corporate synergy sucks.
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post #36 of 55
6/12/09 at 11:15am

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I have a lot to complain about ESPN. For one their NBA coverage is just outright bad. It has gotten better over the years but its still lightyears behind NBC.

Compare the Finals on ABC (ESPN) to when it was NBA on NBC. Or even compare currently to TNT.

While I was a fan of both Around the Horn and PTI, they both have lost of a lot of interest for me. The main problem I have with PTI is that the hosts will make it clear at times they have no interest, half watched, kinda watched whatever sporting event it was that they are now going to be talking about. I mean whats the point then?

-Ray
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post #37 of 55
6/12/09 at 12:21pm

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Pretty much hate any of the New SC stuff, PTI, Over the Hedge, Around the Horn, My Flicka's Bigger than Yours, Mike and Mike, etc etc. The Jim Rome-ization of all these shows is just grating.

Berman's stuff was pretty funny for a couple of years just because it was unique, fun, and not meant to be anything other than what it was. It was a college joke coming up with some fun wordplay, but once it became the style (say 1985 or so) then it lost its fun factor and basically just got old.

Baseball Tonight is news and highlights without all the garbage and is just about the only thing I watch on the station (College Gameday sometimes I guess) other than their live sports.

I miss the days where I had to decide to watch Nick Charles and Fred Hickman on CNN Sports or Mees/Ley/Patrick or Gayle Gardner/Grande/Gumbel on SportsCenter.

I think Craig Kilborn may have been the beginning of the end when he spent as much time working on his comedy monologues as he did on hosting SC. As much as I like Olbermann, he was unfornately part of that group that started making it more about personality and gag reels than the sports themselves. A lot of the anchors have attempted to imitate him with increasingly bad results -- Scott and Mayne are easily the worst offenders.
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post #38 of 55
6/12/09 at 4:04pm

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PTI is the only thing worth watching on ESPN. Period.
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post #39 of 55
6/13/09 at 11:48am

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Originally Posted by Andy Sheets
Corporate synergy sucks.

Yep, and next thing you know, Hanna Montana will be on Sportscenter.
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post #40 of 55
6/13/09 at 12:16pm

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Originally Posted by Walter C
Yep, and next thing you know, Hanna Montana will be on Sportscenter.
Well, Hannah Miley was on there not too long ago. Ooops -- that's the British swimmer.
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post #41 of 55
6/13/09 at 5:06pm

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Old thread but I'll chime in just in case some decision maker at ESPN ever reads it... me and a lot of my friends won't watch SC anymore because of the self-promotion and all the garbage that goes with it. You and your anchors are not the story, the sports you cover are. You seem to have forgotten that.
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post #42 of 55
6/13/09 at 5:33pm

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I wonder if this is dictated by local competition. A lot of regional sports networks have SportsCenter knockoffs that are more locally focused; I'll tend to check out NESN's SportsDesk first because I know it's going to go into detail on Red Sox, Celtics, etc. stuff. So ESPN plays up personalities and catchphrases because they have a hard time competing with the local stations.
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post #43 of 55
6/13/09 at 8:04pm
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Wow! Way to revive the 3yr old thread!

I still love my "Kobe takes the ball, and drives the lane, someone call the cops then my momma because there's been a mugging out front! Booyah, slams the rock down like a dog biting the mailman! Let me holla at a playa cause your sista ain't home!" Alas, it's still relevant today as it was 3yrs ago.

I used to watch Sportscenter religiously, but now it's to a casual view at best. If I'm in a hotel I'll check it out before heading out to a meeting -- I actually like the synergy between Hannah Storm and that guy. In terms of daily though, not really. I will still watch Baseball Tonight, but only because I don't have MLB Network. If my cable company carried it, I wouldn't watch that either. I will still give the thumbs up to College Football Gameday. The trio has never gotten old for me and I still get a kick out of the mascot head before every game (and seeing the WSU Cougar flag flying before every game - Go Cougs!)

Doug
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post #44 of 55
6/15/09 at 2:55pm

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I have found that ESPNews is what Sportenter used to be or at least as close as they can get, far less antics.
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post #45 of 55
6/16/09 at 2:46am

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I don't watch ESPN at all anymore, except for the occasional game. I cannot stand the constant scroll of scores along the bottom. It used to be, only ESPN2 had the scroll. Now it is both stations, ALL the time. Not just twice an hour, but ALL the time. The Sunday night baseball, thank God, takes it off, but watch a game any other time and there it is. When watching a game for a team I want to see, I have attached Velcro to the sides of my set and have made a piece of cloth that runs along the bottom and blocks it all out. I use the same cloth for CBS football games because they do the same thing. I just don't understand why they feel we need to see ALL the scores ALL the time. It takes away so much from the enjoyment of the game.
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post #46 of 55
6/16/09 at 6:38am

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Originally Posted by Mark_B
I just don't understand why they feel we need to see ALL the scores ALL the time.
Well... it's important if you're a degenerate gambler. That's their demo!
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post #47 of 55
6/16/09 at 7:15am

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
Well... it's important if you're a degenerate gambler. That's their demo!

You're exactly right. I wonder how many complaints they would get if they stopped? It reminds me of a bit I saw Seinfeld do where he talks about the scrolling stuff on news channels like msnbc or CNN. What do you watch? The talking head or the scrolling or the pop up message or the split screen. It was a funny bit because it was so on target. They make sports events look like video games where you need all that stuff to control your player. There is so much info displayed you can't watch the game.
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post #48 of 55
6/16/09 at 9:12am

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I vote to change the title of this thread to "ESPN -- stop talking about Brett Farve every f***ing second of the day"!!!
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post #49 of 55
6/16/09 at 9:49am

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I forgive ESPN for all their sins because they replaced Tony Kornheiser on MNF.

By god, the game is listenable again! I don't even care of Gruden just sits there mute.

I can't even watch PTI anymore. Kornheiser is a blathering idiot to me now.

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Originally Posted by Mark_B
You're exactly right. I wonder how many complaints they would get if they stopped?
The complaints would be legion, but I think ESPN's issue is that they don't want these people tuning out to track the scores online.

ESPN: Enabling degenerate gamblers to multi-task since 1979.
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post #50 of 55
6/16/09 at 3:33pm

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
I forgive ESPN for all their sins because they replaced Tony Kornheiser on MNF.

By god, the game is listenable again! I don't even care of Gruden just sits there mute.

I can't even watch PTI anymore. Kornheiser is a blathering idiot to me now.

To each their own. I find him and Wilbon to be very funny together and as I said before, PTI is the only thing on ESPN worth watching.
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post #51 of 55
6/16/09 at 5:11pm

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I used to like PTI and actually didn't mind it when they first put Kornheiser in the MNF booth, but it took all of one quarter in game for me to realize it was a mistake. That led to a 3 year nightmare -- because I watched on delay and skipped through commercials, I couldn't even synch up to a radio broadcast. It was worse -- way worse -- than Dennis Miller. Kornheiser had no idea how football worked and when he wasn't saying dumb things to irritate Jaws (you could practically hear his eyes rolling), he was beating the stories du jour like the dead horses they were. Tirico could barely get his play by play in as Kornheiser insisted on discussing, say, Brett Favre for the umpteenth time.

Kornheiser was such a disruptive force in the booth, I can't stand to look at or listen to him anymore. He's dead to me now. I don't know much about other sports outside of football, but I suspect he doesn't know much about any other sport either. He's a poor humor writer who was labeled a sports writer because that's where he found his niche, but as an analyst, he's the absolute pits.
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post #52 of 55
6/16/09 at 7:07pm

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Never watched him on MNF so I have no idea about his abilities(or lack thereof) as an analyst. I do, however, find him to be very quick witted and he & Wilbon play well off of each other on PTI.

As for labeling him a poor writer that may be your opinion, but it's very far from the truth. He was a successful columnist for decades before getting an opportunity on TV.
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post #53 of 55
6/17/09 at 7:41am

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IMO, the worst offender of all the BS is Chris Berman. He has to give a nickname for every sports person he talks about. He is trying to be exactly like Howard Cosell when he is describing a home run in baseball or a touchdown run in football. He drives me so crazy I turn the channel anytime he is on the air. PTI is the only show on ESPN I watch.
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post #54 of 55
6/17/09 at 11:18am

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Originally Posted by Marty M
IMO, the worst offender of all the BS is Chris Berman. He has to give a nickname for every sports person he talks about. He is trying to be exactly like Howard Cosell when he is describing a home run in baseball or a touchdown run in football. He drives me so crazy I turn the channel anytime he is on the air. PTI is the only show on ESPN I watch.

Totally agree. I can't stand Chris Berman!!!
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post #55 of 55
6/17/09 at 4:31pm

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I used to like PTI and actually didn't mind it when they first put Kornheiser in the MNF booth, but it took all of one quarter in game for me to realize it was a mistake. That led to a 3 year nightmare -- because I watched on delay and skipped through commercials, I couldn't even synch up to a radio broadcast. It was worse -- way worse -- than Dennis Miller. Kornheiser had no idea how football worked and when he wasn't saying dumb things to irritate Jaws (you could practically hear his eyes rolling), he was beating the stories du jour like the dead horses they were. Tirico could barely get his play by play in as Kornheiser insisted on discussing, say, Brett Favre for the umpteenth time.

Kornheiser was such a disruptive force in the booth, I can't stand to look at or listen to him anymore. He's dead to me now. I don't know much about other sports outside of football, but I suspect he doesn't know much about any other sport either. He's a poor humor writer who was labeled a sports writer because that's where he found his niche, but as an analyst, he's the absolute pits.
Completely and totally agree. I used to watch MNF every week (even when Dennis Miller was on) and had to stop... I could not stand hearing Tony blather on about things he knew nothing about. I really wish Ron J. would have completely shot him down a few times each game, that would have at least made things entertaining.

ESPN is going with a crazy new concept this year... have people in the booth who know what they are talking about!
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