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post #31 of 56

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First pics of Depp as Sweeney:



Although, with the recent incident with his daughter(?) is the film still on schedule?

In any case, interesting if a little "clean" looking for my tastes. Though I still feel there were far more appropriate actors for the part I'll be interested to see the angle Depp takes the character, he can be done so many ways, insane, maniacal, frightenely calculating, misguided, etc.
post #32 of 56

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I'm afraid he looks like a cross between Ichabod Crane and Edward Scissorhands. Hopefully he can come up with a new character.

Everyone is assuming he can't sing - any evidence of that?
post #33 of 56

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I heard johnny had a band when he was younger before becoming an actor.

I don;t know people would think that he could not sing.

Jacob
post #34 of 56

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Sweeney needs to be played by a baritone. I don't know if Depp can pull it off. Sasha Coen say's he can't sing so Burton is going to let him do his part as a rap. If you can't sing it the way Sondheim arranged it, don't be in the movie!

I hate musicals but I love Sweeney Todd. It is the only Broadway cast album I own.
post #35 of 56

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Originally Posted by Sean Laughter
First pics of Depp as Sweeney:
Although, with the recent incident with his daughter(?) is the film still on schedule?

This week's Entertainment Weekly made reference to the film coming in 2008, though it could have been a typo.
post #36 of 56
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2007 and 2008 are both right.

Limited release on December 21 2007 and then a wide release on January 11 2008.

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=16053
post #37 of 56

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Originally Posted by LarryDavenport
Sweeney needs to be played by a baritone. I don't know if Depp can pull it off. Sasha Coen say's he can't sing so Burton is going to let him do his part as a rap. If you can't sing it the way Sondheim arranged it, don't be in the movie!

Do you mean Sasha Coen can't sing and his part is going to be as a rap or do you mean Coen says Depp can't sing and his part is going to be as a rap? If it's Coen that will be rapping, he's playing Pirelli who really only has one song in the whole show - which I'm actually surprised doesn't seem to be cut from the film anyway - so it isn't THAT big a deal, and Pirelli has been done so many ways anyway, and cast as a woman in the latest revival, so it may work.

Depp rapping all of Sweeney's parts would be absolute travesty though.
post #38 of 56

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P Diddy is doing the arrangements.

Actually, Sasha can't sing. He will do his part as a rap. I've only seen Sweeney Todd performed live with Angela Lansbury and George Hearn so didn't know it had been done any different. I hope the music in the film is not that different than that of the original cast.
post #39 of 56

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I actually think I prefer the "minimalistic" arrangements used for the Broadway revival, though I think (at least on the recording) that Patti LuPone belts too much given how "fragile" (only way I can describe them) the arrangements are.
post #40 of 56

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I know that Johnny Depp was in bands and plays guitar, indicating he might have a good musical ear. Who would have thought thet Ewan McGregor could sing as well as he did in Moulin Rouge? Surprised the hell out of me, (though my fiancee knew he sang back in Velvet Goldmine. Let's wait and see. Considering how effectively he modulates the pitch of his speaking voice for different parts, very likely he can sing.
post #41 of 56

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Johnny Depp has done a musical before: Cry Baby.

Of course, I don't see why they don't just teach Sacha Baron Cohen to do what Rex Harrison did and talk on pitch.
post #42 of 56

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Depp didn't actually sing in Cry Baby though...

from imdb...

"James Intveld did the singing for Johnny Depp..."
post #43 of 56
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post #44 of 56

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Just watched the trailer and I must say this looks like it could be really good!
post #45 of 56

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It definitely does looks gorgeous. I'll reserve judgment for the acting and interpretations of the parts until I see it, but it does seem a bit more "subdued" than I'm used to seeing either Sweeney or Misses Lovett. For example, I'm used to something a bit more crazed and maniacal by the time Sweeney's character arc gets him to "Epiphany," but I'll wait and see. Definitely giving it a chance though.
post #46 of 56

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I don't really know the musical at all (apart from the barest plot concept), but it is a great looking trailer. It looks like a Tim Burton movie design-wise, and an interesting-looking performance by Depp (insane, but not so much that you would worry about going to him for a shave).

My one problem with the trailer is with the inclusion of the "I will have vengeance" song. I admire that they are actually openly announcing that this is a musical, not keeping it a secret, but in terms of the pacing of a trailer - it really stops the thing dead for a good 20 second, and just makes the thing feel terribly awkward.
post #47 of 56

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Really like this trailer. Looking forward to the film.
post #48 of 56

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Originally Posted by MatthewLouwrens
I don't really know the musical at all (apart from the barest plot concept), but it is a great looking trailer. It looks like a Tim Burton movie design-wise, and an interesting-looking performance by Depp (insane, but not so much that you would worry about going to him for a shave).

My one problem with the trailer is with the inclusion of the "I will have vengeance" song. I admire that they are actually openly announcing that this is a musical, not keeping it a secret, but in terms of the pacing of a trailer - it really stops the thing dead for a good 20 second, and just makes the thing feel terribly awkward.

Yet another musical where they hide the fact that it is a musical... They did it with CHICAGO, Hairspray, RENT, even THE PRODUCERS to a degree... a real shame.
post #49 of 56

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It looks amazing. I love the dark look to Depp.
post #50 of 56

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Originally Posted by Adam_WM
Yet another musical where they hide the fact that it is a musical... They did it with CHICAGO, Hairspray, RENT, even THE PRODUCERS to a degree... a real shame.

Huh? There's singing of a song right there in the trailer - granted, I'd have picked one of the more up-tempo moments to go better with the pacing of the trailer - but it's not hiding it's a musical. I can't really see how anyone could say Hairspray hid it was a musical either. Then again, I didn't pay to much attention to the marketing of those films outside the trailers, so maybe the TV spots were different.
post #51 of 56

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Yet another musical where they hide the fact that it is a musical... They did it with CHICAGO, Hairspray, RENT, even THE PRODUCERS to a degree... a real shame.
Like Sean said, they weren't hiding the fact that it is a musical. (In fact, in my post that you quoted, I actually state that I admired that "they are actually openly announcing that this is a musical, not keeping it a secret"). The trailer may not be full of singing every second, but it's very clear that there is at least one point where the main character walks around singing "I will have vengeance" while people completely fail to take notice. And if there is one scene like that, there are probably others. And that makes it a musical. You certainly couldn't watch the trailer and still be surprised to find it was a musical.

But you're not the only person to make that comment - I was reading a post on the EW.com website that also suggested that they're trying to hide that it's a musical.
post #52 of 56

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It will be interesting to see how well the film does. It is one of Sondheim's most challenging shows thematically and musically, and definitely isn't everyone's cup of tea. I personally love it and it's by far my favorite Sondheim show, so I'm excited for it, I just can see it being a nightmare figuring out how to market it properly.

I'm actually surprised a film version of Into the Woods wasn't green lit before Sweeney Todd since that show seems infinitely more marketable to many more demographic segments.
post #53 of 56

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I'm just excited because I have a crush on Johnny Depp. Imagine that, doesn't every gal? Here's the trailer for Sweeney Todd: http://gloob.tv/movies/trailer_sween...d?article=1976 I signed up for this subscription service where I get trailers and teasers e-mailed to me as they come out. This was the first one I got... was so happy to wake up to a big old still of Johnny in my inbox!
post #54 of 56

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www.sweeneytoddmovie.com
post #55 of 56

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I will never forget seeing Evita at the cinema.

It was obvious that most of the audience did not know what to expect.

The film started and after 20 minutes of continuous music it felt like they had all forgotten to breath and were waiting for the music to stop. The film never did give them a chance to relax, the music just never stopped!

I loved the film, but I think the majority of the cinema audience hated it.

The cinema was practically empty when I saw Phantom of the Opera. For such a big show, the film was a tremendous flop.

I can't imagine Sweeney being a hit, Tim and Johnny between them must have some clout if they can get something like this made.

Although Moulin Rouge was a hit, there is something about the post modern way it uses popular song, that I think made it more acceptable to a non-musical audience. Chicago did the whole frame the songs as fantasy and keep the drama seperate thing.

I thought Rent was great, but that was another big flop for such a high profile contempary show.

Hopefully the huge success of Disney's High School Musicall 1 & 2 will encourage a lot of youngsters to be more open about film musicals.

I'm sure Sweeney Todd will be great, different to the original production, but the source material is strong enough to stand many different intepretations.
post #56 of 56

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Hairspray did pretty good at the box office and it had quite a bit of singing in it.
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