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post #91 of 403
6/15/06 at 6:33am

Re: Michael Mann's Miami Vice: Teaser online

I think the only major criticism I have of the project at this point (and it's one that I have already gotten over, mostly) is that I think it would be fun if this movie was set in the 1980s.
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post #92 of 403
6/15/06 at 1:17pm
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Re: Michael Mann's Miami Vice: Teaser online

A lot of people I talk to seem to be under the impression that this is another low-quality tv-to-movie adaptation of a show that doesn't need to happen, a la Bewitched, or that it is closely connected to the 80s tv show of the same name. The only connection the new film has to the show is the title and names of the two main characters. According to what I've read, the film is what we would expect of Mann today- a very serious, very hip, very introspective picture, not at all the approach Mann's old show took. Apparently the film takes place mostly in Central America (as opposed to Miami), and deals with the psychologial ramifications of taking on another personality (aka going undercover), and the detailing of how the drug trafficking world in Central America works. Frankly, I think the public would be more receptive to the picture if it wasn't called Miami Vice (a pop-culture document with a stigma that is inseperable from 80s style and attitude), as the title seems to suggest something other than what the film is going for.

Regards,
Nathan
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post #93 of 403
6/15/06 at 4:30pm

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I agree. I keep telling my bro-in-law that I am really excited for Miami Vice and he just rolls his eyes. I try to explain to him that its modern and not campy like the show and that Mann is directing it, but he just scoffs and blows it off, even though if it weren't called MV and he saw the trailer he would be lining up to go see it.
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post #94 of 403
6/15/06 at 6:52pm

Re: Michael Mann's Miami Vice: Teaser online

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Originally Posted by Nathan V
According to what I've read, the film is what we would expect of Mann today- a very serious, very hip, very introspective picture, not at all the approach Mann's old show took.
This is my impression from early sneak reviews, but the danger is being overly serious (a la Batman Begins) which some have noted in rough cuts. Can't wait to judge for myself!
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post #95 of 403
6/15/06 at 7:55pm

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I am expecting another excellent Michael Mann film, and am extremely excited about seeing this one this summer. Especially given how much I enjoyed his most recent: Collateral, and of course pretty much every single film mann has ever made.

I actually would LOVE to see another drama from him too, similar to what he did with the Insider, which I think is my personal favorite from him (I like Dramas in general over the more action-oriented stuff). But I really like the fact that someone is making intelligent ADULT action films that don't treat the audience like a bunch of teenagers. Very rare, the last film that immediately comes to mind other than Mann stuff would be something like Ronin. A film with a lot of action, but not what you immediately think of when you say "action film."

Anyway, I expect this to kick ass in the best kind of way, and be excellent all around. It also looks like he's doing more with Digital cameras again, which I thought went very well in Collateral.
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post #96 of 403
6/16/06 at 7:26am

Re: Michael Mann's Miami Vice: Teaser online

I wish he didnt do this one in digital, but oh well.

Love Manns films.
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post #97 of 403
6/16/06 at 7:49am

Re: Michael Mann's Miami Vice: Teaser online

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I try to explain to him that its modern and not campy like the show

My issue is this -- was the original Miami Vice "campy."? I'll admit that it has been some time since I've seen it, but from my memory, MV was a serious, gritty drama that just happened to take place in the pastel-laden world of mid-to-late 1980s Miami.

I don't recall it being "camp." In fact, I would say that most people who think the show that way are probably more relating to the COUNTLESS 1980s parodies and references in other shows, e.g. the character of Drew Barrymore's fiance in Wedding Singer who wore the pastel suits and talked about loving the show.
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post #98 of 403
6/16/06 at 8:04am

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Yeah, maybe campy wasn't the right term. I own the MV DVD's and some of it could be mild campiness, but it still holds well, for me at least. Some people, like my bro-in-law can't get by the suits for the story. His loss.
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post #99 of 403
6/16/06 at 8:05am

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I wish he didnt do this one in digital, but oh well.
Me too. My only major problem with collateral was the digital photography. It's so obvious video looking that takes me out of the film. Or let's hope that if they did use digital cameras for this one, they used better ones!
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post #100 of 403
6/16/06 at 10:48am

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I don't think MV is camp at all. The show also gets quite dark in some seasons...beautifully so in most cases.
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post #101 of 403
6/16/06 at 12:49pm

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Me too. My only major problem with collateral was the digital photography. It's so obvious video looking that takes me out of the film.
it's been a while since i've seen Collateral but i don't remember being distracted by the use of digital cameras. but i do know i hate many night scenes from HEAT that would probably have looked way better with digital.
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post #102 of 403
6/16/06 at 12:59pm

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...but the danger is being overly serious

I'm not sure that's possible in a film about the drug trade, undercover operations, and morality concerns. I don't think you can be too serious about it. The show wasn't campy...it was hyper-stylized. But that's Miami. The movie looks tonally perfect to me.

As for the average person that doesn't realize many movies feature a guiding hand (the director, writer, etc) and base their decisions solely on preconceived notions...they probably miss a lot of good films. Ignorance is bliss.

The movie is titled right, and doesn't look campy in the least. It looks like a film directed by the guy that directed Heat, directed Collateral, and exec produced a TV show called Miami Vice 20 years ago

It's nice to get a summer film for grown-ups!
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post #103 of 403
6/17/06 at 5:00pm

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but the danger is being overly serious (a la Batman Begins)

That's one of the main reasons why I thought Batman Begins was so good. (The only Batman movie I like).
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post #104 of 403
6/17/06 at 6:30pm

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Heat was a serious Michael Mann drama and it's amongst my favorites. If Miami Vice the movie is like Heat in central America with Crockett as an undercover agent and Tubbs keeping him in check (forgive me if I got them mixed up) then it will be one of the top five movies ever.
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post #105 of 403
6/18/06 at 10:42pm

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Count me as someone that thinks the show at the time nailed the tone of the 80's and Miami, often got very gritty, and was really good which is exactly why it had such a cultural impact.

The camp came afterward when the idea of it was wrapped up with all things 80's where people always mock the culture they were just a part of (only to later fondly recall it and bring it back).


This film is going to change what people think of when they hear Miami Vice. It looks like a homerun to me and could be one of the bigger hits of the year. Sure looks like another Mann classic.
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post #106 of 403
6/19/06 at 9:44am

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Maybe he should have called it Miami Heat, making it a pseudo-sequel to Heat and grabbing all the basketball fans at the same time.
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post #107 of 403
6/26/06 at 10:13am

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For all you fans, here is a nice clip to remind you how well some if it can really hold up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tnyp9tRXRo
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post #108 of 403
6/26/06 at 12:18pm

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Originally Posted by Carl Johnson
Heat was a serious Michael Mann drama and it's amongst my favorites. If Miami Vice the movie is like Heat in central America with Crockett as an undercover agent and Tubbs keeping him in check (forgive me if I got them mixed up) then it will be one of the top five movies ever.
amen to that.
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post #109 of 403
6/26/06 at 12:35pm

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Brandon,

That clip from the Vice pilot is one of my favorite TV moments of all time. I love that damn sequence!
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post #110 of 403
6/26/06 at 12:35pm

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Originally Posted by Brent M
Brandon,

That clip from the Vice pilot is one of my favorite TV moments of all time. I love that damn sequence!
amen to that, too....
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post #111 of 403
6/26/06 at 2:24pm

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I just finished Season One and started into Season Two, and it just keeps getting better. In fact, I would have to say that "Prodigal Son"--the two hour season 2 premiere--is the best Vice I've seen yet.
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post #112 of 403
6/26/06 at 5:30pm

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IMDB has the runtime as 146 minutes. Seems about the right length to me.

~T
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post #113 of 403
6/27/06 at 5:05pm

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Originally Posted by Sam Davatchi
Me too. My only major problem with collateral was the digital photography. It's so obvious video looking that takes me out of the film. Or let's hope that if they did use digital cameras for this one, they used better ones!

I got the impression that this was intentional. It gave the movie an entirely different feeling in my eyes... that is if you are talking about the motion characteristics. Digital doesn't have to look like that (look at Star Wars, the motion in that is more film-like), it's purely a stylized thing that he did and it works IMO.
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post #114 of 403
6/30/06 at 9:01pm

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Originally Posted by Brandon_T
For all you fans, here is a nice clip to remind you how well some if it can really hold up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tnyp9tRXRo

this is the film trailer done to in the air tonight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJiJm0gtL_E

http://actionman133.isa-geek.net:808...miamivice.html
there's a HD version to download but its pretty slow
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post #115 of 403
7/3/06 at 3:46am

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At least he is using Dion Beebe as his DP - they collaborated on Collateral together and he was also the DP for Memoirs of a Geisha. The film I'm sure will be visually stunning.

What Mann did to capture the grittiness of L.A. in Heat and Collateral, I'm interested in how he captures a more "tropical" location.
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post #116 of 403
7/7/06 at 10:25pm

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Well here's a kick in the ass - got an e-mail as an Entertainment Weekly Subscriber that the first 20 people to respond to the e-mail they sent would be given guest passes to an early screening of Miami Vice.

I jumped, and....Miami Vice isn't showing early in M I A M I.

Oh well, still can't wait to see it, just found it kind of amusing .
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post #117 of 403
7/8/06 at 9:56am

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It is unfortunate that a remake of In the Air Tonight will be used as the lead song for Miami Vice. I guess it would be ok if I could tolerate the remake, but to me its just really bad and doesn't have any heart to it. Its done by the group Nonpoint and is up on their site if you want to take a listen.
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post #118 of 403
7/8/06 at 10:40am

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It's not that bad. Yeah, it doesn't have the heart or atmosphere of Phil Collins'.

BTW, if someone posts the soundtrack, please put it in spoiler tags!

~T
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post #119 of 403
7/8/06 at 12:10pm

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Is the video quality of the DVD's lousy, as I am reading?
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post #120 of 403
7/8/06 at 12:47pm

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Big update to the Miami Vice website...lots of clips. I stopped after few as I don't want to be spoiled.
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