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post #61 of 101
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"You never can tell, Beaver .... maybe women like to smell like old catcher's mitts."
post #62 of 101
There's a TiVo ad on the radio where the TV is talking, asking its owner to get rid of the VCR in favor of a TiVo. At the end, he says, "Oh, and please--ixnay on the Leave it to Beaver reruns!"

I'd kick that stupid TV out of my house.

post #63 of 101
My son recently bought himself a small videoman type player and he has had LITB in that player watching every episode. He loves it. BTW, he's 15 years old.
post #64 of 101
I'll be getting me some Beaver later on today!

Merry Christmas, David...and all you other Beaver-philes!
post #65 of 101
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Merry Christmas to you too, Mike. (And everyone.)

And I, too, Greg, would send that talking TV packing due to its horrid taste in sitcoms. A shocking lack of Beaver appreciation!
post #66 of 101
Merry Christmas to you, too, David, as well as all of our other HTF Beaver pals. Unfortunately, I don't expect I'll be getting this set tomorrow. I will get it with the expected Best Buy gift card as soon as the crowds die down, though. In the meantime, I will go to sleep tonight with visions of your imagined Leave It To Beaver Christmas episode dancing in my head.

Golly! Now I won't be able to get to sleep, on account of thinking of June in a Santa cap, pearls, and maybe a nice red garter belt. You and your multi-angles.
post #67 of 101
I picked up the Beav today at Costco for $30.29. Don't know if that was a good price or not, but it was right there, so I grabbed it.

I'll agree the picture is surprisingly grainy when compared to the I Love Lucy DVDs, but it's not horrible. It sure is great to finally have this on DVD.

I went looking for more info on the "Small World" pilot, and ran across a review on MovieFreak.com that oddly claims the pilot "has not seen daylight since first broadcast in the 1950s." Bologna! I've seen it before, and I was born in 1965. I wonder if the reviewer just thought that sounded really dramatic.
post #68 of 101
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Now I won't be able to get to sleep, on account of thinking of June in a Santa cap, pearls, and maybe a nice red garter belt. You and your multi-angles.


I take it, then, Greg, you don't want to hear about my multi-angled proposal for an episode involving June up at Friends Lake, when, to Ward's utter delight, she unveils her brand-new 2-piece bikini bathing suit in all its slinky glory?
post #69 of 101
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I picked up the Beav today at Costco for $30.29. Don't know if that was a good price or not...
You're dang straight that's a good price. The best deal right now on-line is $36+. You should have grabbed two or three.


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I'll agree the picture is surprisingly grainy when compared to the I Love Lucy DVDs, but it's not horrible.
But (as I eluded to in my mile-long review) please do note how utterly pristine and crystal-clear ALL of the "out-of-doors" scenes are in every single episode. Not a speck of grain can I find in any outdoor shots at all. And there are usually at least a couple "outdoor" scenes in every LITB episode...which I think kind of makes up, sort of, for the grainier scenes elsewhere.

Or -- I suppose it might have the opposite effect on some viewers; i.e., they might see the grain-free outdoor shots and then say "Gee, dad, I sure wish all the indoor scenes looked as grain-free as this. Don't you, Beav? Give me a hunk o' milk as I ponder this situation, will ya?"


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I went looking for more info on the "Small World" pilot, and ran across a review on MovieFreak.com that oddly claims the pilot "has not seen daylight since first broadcast in the 1950s." Bologna! I've seen it before, and I was born in 1965. I wonder if the reviewer just thought that sounded really dramatic.
For just a second (when I saw "review" here in your post) I thought that perhaps it was I who had foolishly put such inaccurate info in my review here. But then I saw that you were referring to somebody else.

Yes, that person is definitely mistaken re. the pilot. I've had it on homemade VHS since about 1988 or so.
post #70 of 101
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I take it, then, Greg, you don't want to hear about my multi-angled proposal for an episode involving June up at Friends Lake, when, to Ward's utter delight, she unveils her brand-new 2-piece bikini bathing suit in all its slinky glory?

I never thought of June that way, but may not be able to help it now.
post #71 of 101
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JUNE -- "Ward, why don't you ever bring me flowers?"

WARD -- "I'm the kind that says it with seat covers."

post #72 of 101
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I never thought of June that way, but may not be able to help it now.


Greg: Are you not human, man?!?! June is HOT! HOT! HOT!

Got me some Beaver today! I guess that's the last time I get to make that joke (until Season 2 is ready for release).

In the midst of an incredibly busy day, I seized the opportunity to watch Eps #1 & 2! Beaver Gets 'Spelled and Captain Jack. I found myself laughing out loud and just reveling in all that was ever good about television. One thing I especially noticed was the absence of annoying promo voice-overs over the closing credit music!

I thought video looked great. But I have a relatively small display (compared to many of the monsters which patrol here at the HTF!).

As long as I make it though the set without problems (all those guys carrying on about Universal DVD-18s have put some fear in me) I'll be one VERY happy camper.

More feedback later.

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JUNE -- "Ward, why don't you ever bring me flowers?"

WARD -- "I'm the kind that says it with seat covers."

David: That was just one of my many laugh-out-loud lines! It came just seconds after..."Who is Corniela Rayburn? And, when did she see you off your feet?"!!!
post #73 of 101
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Greg: Are you not human, man?!?! June is HOT! HOT! HOT!

Growing up with a show, I just never noticed those things. I didn't notice Marcia and later-season Jan Brady were hot until it was kind of sick for me to notice--even though they are both older than me.
post #74 of 101
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I didn't notice.....later-season Jan Brady (was) hot




Sorry, Greg! Couldn't resist! Jan Brady has always been a sore sport for me.
post #75 of 101
Come on, man.

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Eve%20Plumb.jpg

In searching for that picture, I came across one of Evangeline Lilly. SURELY we can agree on that, at least? Hmm?

We now return you to Leave It To Beaver, already in progress.
post #76 of 101
One last thought on our detour:

On Evangeline Lilly, we can agree. Not on Eve Plumb.



NOW...back to our regularly scheduled thread!
post #77 of 101
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You're dang straight that's a good price. The best deal right now on-line is $36+. You should have grabbed two or three


Yeah, Costco's box set prices are second to none.

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I've had it on homemade VHS since about 1988 or so.


Aha! Only info I was able to find was that it was brodcast on I think Nick at Nite several years ago. But when I saw it, I was almost sure I had seen it in syndication years before that.

David, is there any reference anywhere that tells what dates the episodes were SHOT, espcially the pilot?
post #78 of 101
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I have no idea about the "Film" dates with regard to LITB, or the "Small World" pilot. But the pilot aired for the first time (in syndication) in April 1957, so it was either filmed in very early '57 or late '56 even.
post #79 of 101
I got my copy in the mail from amazon a couple days ago,i watched about 5 or 6 random episodes with no problems so far, including the pilot. Hopefully ill get through the set with no problems. No wonder they changed ward and wally, they were terrible in the pilot!
post #80 of 101
Oh, I didn't think they were terrible at all. But clearly the "magic" cast was the final one!
post #81 of 101
On the pilot there is no laugh track, which affects the feel of the show. I agree they did good by changing actors for Ward and Wally.

I have watched all of my set and it had no problems playing.

And, yes it is annoying to see and hear the Universal logo and theme play before EVERY single episode. Just once at the beginning of the disc is enough, OK?

Please give us Seasons 2 - 6!!!
post #82 of 101
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Some Additional Casual Beaver Observations & Hunks O' Trivia..........................

Anybody notice something somewhat unusual about the TV series Leave It To Beaver (in general terms that is)?........

This something "unusual" hit me recently when watching the Season-One LITB episode "The Paper Route", which is a top-notch ep. featuring The Beav and The Wallace getting a job delivering newspapers to earn money for a new bicycle.

Unlike most other TV sitcoms from this 1950s-1960s era that I have seen, Leave It To Beaver has many scenes shot out-of-doors, instead of the "fake outdoors" method employed by I Love Lucy and The Dick Van Dyke Show, and many others, where the "outdoor" scenes are obviously filmed inside the more-controllable environment of the studio soundstages.

But in Beaver, "outdoors" is really outdoors, which I think adds even more of a realisitic and authentic feel to this TV series. In the "Paper Route" episode, about half of that program was filmed in the sunny outdoors at "Revue" Studios in California. And the outdoor scenes look absolutely wonderful and crystal-clear on the DVDs (as I previously mentioned in the review for the S.1 set). And it makes me wonder if a different type of film stock (with less or no grain) was utilized for those out-of-doors scenes, because they are definitely much less grain-filled than the indoors scenes.

The Andy Griffith Show was another show from this era that filmed a lot of stuff outside, which is definitely a good thing IMO. It's hard to imagine Beaver and Andy without all those "real" outdoors scenes. A fake blue-screen background just wouldn't cut it for either of those shows.

Jerry Mathers, in his 1998 self-authored book "...And Jerry Mathers As 'The Beaver'", even makes mention of how unusual it was for a TV series' production crew to film a lot of outdoor scenes......

"'Leave It To Beaver' was shot on 35mm film, like a movie. We used one camera, and much of the show was filmed outside. It took four days to shoot. The full crew had to be there every day we worked. The show was edited like a movie. In its day, the $45,000 per week 'Leave It To Beaver' production cost was considered expensive. In comparison, the one-camera {1985-} 1989 version of {The} 'New Leave It To Beaver' {aka 'Still The Beaver'} cost $800,000 per week to shoot." -- Jerry Mathers; circa 1998

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LITB Trivial Anecdotes:

Also relating to "The Paper Route" ep. -- June pays $6.20 to deliver Beaver's papers in a taxicab one night.....and she pays by check. Does anyone know of any cab driver who will accept a personal check from somebody for a cab ride? LOL.

But, then too, perhaps June just turned on her magnetic charm and had the poor sap of a cab driver eating out of her hands. (Who knows what favors she might have promised the poor schnook! )

More Meaningless, But Kinda Neat, "Paper Route" Trivia .............

The check that June made out to the cab company, btw, was Check #436 .... and was made out to the order of "City Cab Co." on March 7th, 1958. I'm sorry, but the account number is not visible on the check when you freeze the episode in question at the 12:21 mark on the Digital Versatile Disc.

There's a verifiable error uttered by Ward Cleaver in that "check" scene of the episode too. Ward says that the check was dated "last Tuesday", which is impossible....since March 7, 1958, was a Friday....not a Tuesday. (Perpetual calendars are great, aren't they?)

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Post-Script Trivia:

Barbara Billingsley ("June Cleaver") turned 90 years young on December 22nd, 2005!

This following stat seems somewhat incredible to me -- Barbara B. is 5.5 years older than the late, great actor Richard Deacon (aka "Fred Rutherford"). Doesn't seem quite right, huh? (It must be Deac's ever-present Chrome Dome that just made him seem older than he was. He was only 36 during the first season of LITB.)



post #83 of 101
Sitcoms in the '50s and '60s were filmed in two different ways.

Some were filmed with three cameras in front of a live audience. This was the system "I Love Lucy" made popular. Besides "Lucy," two popular shows using that technique were "Make Room for Daddy/The Danny Thomas Show" and "The Dick Van Dyke Show." That's why these shows have "fake" outdoor scenes (with a few exceptions -- there are some "I Love Lucy" moments filmed outdoors, including scenes in the first episode on the trip to Hollywood in Season Four.)

This technique became very big in the 1970s, with "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" and its spinoffs "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" and all those Norman Lear shows done on videotape -- "All in the Family," "Sanford and Son," "Maude," "Good Times," etc. It was so popular that "Happy Times" switched to it soon in its run. The great majority of shows since 1970 have been filmed or taped with three cameras in front of a live audience.

The other style of show was filmed as movies are -- with one camera, not in front of a live audience. Thus, you'll find realistic outdoor scenes. Besides "Leave It to Beaver" and "The Andy Griffith Show," these shows included "The Beverly Hillbillies" and its spin-offs "Petticoat Junction" and "Green Acres," and the Screen Gems shows "Father Knows Best," "The Donna Reed Show," "Dennis the Menace," "Hazel" and "Bewitched."

I like both systems -- they both have their advantages and disadvantages. The shows in front of live audiences seemed funnier, for some reason -- but the shows filmed as movies seemed more realistic, if anyone can use the word in relation to stuff like "Green Acres" and "Bewitched."

Speaking of Barbara Billingsley -- I'm sure many of you know about this already, but for those who don't: Many of the interviews made for the Television Academy are now available for viewing online, including a most-interesting one by Ms. Billingsley. Here's the link:http://www.emmys.tv/foundation/archive/interviews.php

The links to the interviews seem to be broken at the moment, but these interviews can be seen by doing a search at Google video:http://video.google.com
post #84 of 101
I believe I dream of Jennie was Done this way as was the Munsters and Adams Family, and Gilligan's Island.
post #85 of 101
Wow - I didn't Barbara B was admitting to being 90 years old. Wasn't her "official" birthdate something like 10 years younger for the longest time?
post #86 of 101
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This following stat seems somewhat incredible to me -- Barbara B. is 5.5 years older than the late, great actor Richard Deacon (aka "Fred Rutherford"). Doesn't seem quite right, huh? (It must be Deac's ever-present Chrome Dome that just made him seem older than he was.


Dave: I know you are very busy checking on obscure days/dates from 1958...but you might not have noticed that Barbara Billinglsey was also a helluva lot more attractive than Richard Deacon. Just thought I'd throw that in in case you had missed it.



FWIW, I've been making my way slowly and steadily through the set...watching an episode or two a week. I just cannot say emphatically enough how wonderful I think this show is. I have always enjoyed the interplay between all the members of the Cleaver household...but this recent chance to re-live these gems from Season 1 of LitB have really proved to me what an excellent actor young Jerry Mathers was. His ability to "play" Beaver Cleaver so convincingly...to look up his oler brother and respond so accurately to his parents...is a testament to his acting chops. I have always thought all four of the main actors as well as the supporting cast were excellent, but I've got a new-found appreciation for the work of Mathers.

This series really catches a slice of life for us 40-to-50-year olds. I don't know if the younger set can relate to or appreciate the simplicity of the issues dealt with...but I have caught my 15 year old son on a number of occasions where I have been watching the show stop walking by and sit down to see what's going on in Mayfield. There's hope.

I have been pleased with the overall look to the show. I have noticed the graininess in a few instances...but nothing to write home to Aunt Martha about. It sounds fine...a couple of instances with uneven audio but, again, nothing that I would complain about.

The new Universal logos and fanfares before each episode are a pain in the neck and I would like to see them removed from future sets. The audio imbalance between those fanfares and the upcoming episodes is marked and obnoxious.

I was originally dismayed at the absence of chapter stops...but have found them to be unnecessary as I make my way through the episodes. Put me in the David Lynch school of thought on this one, I guess.

Let's just hope that Season 2 is comin' soon. In another thread on 2006 releases, Dave Lambert said he's heard nothing yet about LitB: S2. Cross your fingers.
post #87 of 101
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I know you are very busy checking on obscure days/dates from 1958.....

Heck, somebody's gotta do it. You apparently aren't gonna.
post #88 of 101
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Let's just hope that Season 2 is comin' soon. In another thread on 2006 releases, Dave Lambert said he's heard nothing yet about LitB: S2. Cross your fingers.

Leave It To Beaver Season 2 -- Coming May 2nd, 2006! ........

http://tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5024
post #89 of 101
It's good to know that Dave Lambert is still hanging on my every word and is willing to get me the answers to my questions.

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The elements are digitally remastered for this DVD release, so we're expecting this to be sharp-looking and sounding.


Would that be any different than Season 1? Weren't Season 1's episodes "digitally remastered"?

To me that sounds like the ol' gambit when CDs were first released. Remember the old three-letter codes like A-D-D or A-A-D or D-D-D where the first letter was the source, the middle letter was the "mastering" and the third was the recording. Well, the third letter HAD to be a "D" or else you wouldn't have been holding a CD in your hand!

All shows on film or tape "have" to be digitally mastered to be put on DVD, right?! The real question is if they are "restored" or, I suppose, the amount of attention that goes into the "remastering".
post #90 of 101
Mike has a good point. I thought by definition a DVD was "digially remastered". You see all those $1 type DVDs slapping this lingo on trying to entice people to think they're getting something special.

Big difference between "remastered" and "restored".
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