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I'm not that excited for this PPV. The lineup has way to many multi-participant matches, and for the most part unless done correctly, are usually just a mess. The Lethal Lockdown was fine, and maybe the X-Division one is okay, but all the others should've been singles or tag matches.

I'm not sure how good Joe vs. Angle will be this time. I'd rather see Joe win the title in a non-cage match.

I thought Creed looked really good in his match, although the match itself wasn't that good.

~T

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Angle-Joe ruled, that is all.

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I didn't like the first half of Angle/Joe, but I loved the second half. Maybe I'll appreciate it more if I watch it again.

I really liked Sayid. She was awesome. And the tag match was really good.

Booker T and Roode click really well in the ring.

The second main event wasn't as good as last year's but I still enjoyed it. I don't see what the big deal is about Matt Morgan.

Creed looked really good in the ring again, I like his combos.

~T

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You're not the first person to say this. I'm going to guess you're not an MMA fan. MMA fans may or may not have liked it, but in general it has been very well received and I think that kind of style could be where wrestling is headed in the future.

Austin wrote a note on his Myspace today which basically said that traveling while in school was harder than he thought and he's tired. He looked good in the match, but I wish they hadn't put him in it because he had to lose and I don't see what that benefits him or anyone else so early in his tenure.


Saeed works around as "cheerleader Melissa" so she can definitely go.

Don't give up on Matt Morgan just yet, it is tough to show off your skills in that kind of environment. He's a big guy who is a pretty good athlete and he can talk, though he does need to slow down his speaking a bit as I do notice him twisting his words periodically.

I think the Booker/Roode match was cut short which is why when the women were tagged in it went right to the finish.

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Doesn't sound like I missed much on the PPV. Sounds really overbooked, and I'm glad the crowd had that anti-Russo chant.

~T

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Seeing as this thread has been real quiet since the last PPV that aught to tell you just how much of a buzz is surrounding tonight's PPV and TNA in general.

The word is that Styles and Angle will wrestle the match you'd hope to see when you think of Styles Vs. Angle. However, it remains to bee seen as to whether Angle can do it with the condition of his neck.

my report is here

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It was an okay show.

The opener was the best. Kaz is just plain awesome.

The wedding was just total crap. I don't see the point of all that buildup just to have Sonjay do a weak turn and then get beat up by old-timers. ???

AJ and Angle was good but not a classic. It was lethargic and there wasn't much back and forth action, just one big move after another it seemed.

I don't care for the King of the Mountain matches, but it was the best one I've seen. They really need to modify the match to make it better. How about instead of putting someone in a cage, blindfold or tie one hand behind their back for a few minutes. And one less person in the match would make it soooo much better.

~T

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I've only seen the first hour of Impact last night, but man, what an awesome hour. This is what TNA needs to be.

~T

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I gotta say that I've been impressed by the past 2 Impacts. The wrestling has been a lot better and so has the entertainment. I like how things have a more realistic feel to them, and nothing is goofy anymore. This is how TNA should be. Hopefully, it's the direction they are going in, not some temporary phase. If you have stopped watching TNA, now seems the time to become a fan again.

~T

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God bless the World X Cup

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Yeah, love the World X Cup. I hope the seriousness isn't because that's been going on. We're getting these awesome X division matches now, after all that crap in the past year. I still don't see the point in the whole Team 3D versus X-Division angle.

How great was that Russian guy's dance kick move? I Tivo'd the show and watched that move over a few times.

~T

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Impact is on a streak!

I don't care if there is a mediocre show upcoming, as long as they stick with the same tone. This is how TNA should be.

Is Russo gone or something?

~T

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TNA is definitely on a roll. I hope they keep it up because right now the WWE is just not interesting to me.

BTW, is it just me or has Samoa Joe gotten pretty darn good cutting promos? Couple this with his in-ring talent and the guy is becoming a monster.

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I find Joe yells too much in his promos, in an annoying manner.

Sonjay seems to be doing really well with his heel character now. I thought his gimmick was lame, but it really works for him as a heel.

How great was it when Booker T showed us the picture of him and Ali, and Borash was shocked to see he had a picture of the greatest, and Booker's response was, "Yeah, and the other guy is Ali."

~T

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Yeah, he does yell a bit too much during his in-ring promos. But his backstage stuff is gold, especially his interactions with Nash. I wonder if Nash has been working with him on his mic skills?

I laughed at the Booker-Ali bit. Good stuff.

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Who is watching the PPV tonight? If you're not, I am and I'm doing my report which you can read here

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I'm a little late, but if your curious about Hard Justice our report is here

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AJ vs. Angle was just plain awesome. I was disappointed by their last match, even though it was good. But they really delivered with this match. Things flowed well between the two, good chemistry, and really great spots.

The tag match was also really great. I'm really liking Robert Rhoode now.

With both matches, I was happy with how much time the guys were given.

~T

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So who watched Impact this week?

Who saw Sting cut a pretty good promo that was supposed to get him booed?

Who saw him get cheers instead?

Who saw exactly that very thing coming from a mile away?

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The cheers weren't that loud for Sting; it seemed more like several vocal fans. The problem with that segment was that AJ didn't get to defend himself. He got like what, 2 lines in? How about instead of being implicit with how he was with the company from the beginning, he should've reminded the fans that he was. He should've brought up all the titles he's held.

I like that Joe and AJ are getting more of the spotlight. A minor problem with their characters now is that they sort of whiners. The writers need to fix this problem immediately.

It's been really awesome how Angle has been putting over AJ. I'm really surprised by how many times Angle has lost now.

So Mick Foley is with TNA now. I don't really have any thoughts on that.

Casey, I know you're a fan of Creed. Do you like how he's been doing? His real life interviews have been really good.

~T

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Thi, I'm going to have to disagree on the Sting interview. It was so bad that in his interview that will air I think this week, he acknowledged the fact that he didn't get booed.

As for Creed, I like those interviews he's done. The biggest reason I like them is because he told us pretty much the same information last October and I think that's kind of cool.

As for how he's done. I think he's doing fine. I'd like it if they gave him some more promo time to see what he can do with it. I think they want to do something with him and see something in him. I am more interested in how other people are taking to him because I like the guy too much to not have a bias.

As for Mick Foley I'll put it this way.

My sadness level over Gail Kim's departure from TNA is greater than my happiness level towards Mick Foley's arrival in TNA.

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This week was the first time I've watched TNA in awhile (other than the horribly wrong Sting segment last week). My thoughts:

I really like Creed, and see star written all over him. The fact that he seems like a genuine guy outside the ring is what will help propel him to the top.

How gutsy is it to have the Sheik's music start with the sound of a plane falling and exploding?

The NB v MC redo? I don't see it working. I don't ever see Sting getting over as the heel. Ever.

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Mick Foley made his TNA debut at a house show in Long Island last evening. Probably a good idea to do that since he does live in the area.

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I think anyone can get over as a heel, as long as they put effort into it. Sting just didn't seem like he was trying. If the fans start cheering, simply tell them to shut up.

I liked AJ's promo backstage, but it should've been done in front of the crowd last week.

Samoa Joe came off looking weak like AJ did, when he was in the ring with Sting. Joe and AJ can get the best cheers, but when the were in the ring with Sting, the fans just didn't seem to care for them.

~T

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I haven't been watching for a while and just caught the Sting segment that was supposed to get booed but didn't. One thing that got my attention was when AJ came out and said something like "you paved the way for me??? who do you think built this company??" and the crowd had no reaction to this statement.

What do you guys think about that? Did A.J Styles build TNA?

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You can't just be a heel by trying really hard. Fans need to want to hate you and if they don't want to hate you then telling them to shut up isn't going to change things. When WCW tried this with Sting in 1999 they had him and Lex Luger (who people did hate) do a 2-1 beatdown on Ric Flair in Charlotte.

Sting was still cheered.

When he originally turned heel, he turned on a recently turned back babyface Hulk Hogan.

He was cheered.

Nobody wanted to cheer Goldberg when WCW turned him heel, so they didn't and it was forgotten about a few weeks later. Nobody wanted to boo Steve Austin in 2001 when he turned, so they didn't even when he beat up Jim Ross in Oklahoma.

Plus, in this specific angle, what exactly did Sting say that was untrue and even more why would anybody want to cheer Styles/Joe the way they're currently being booked? Think about it, Sting keeps out-smarting both of them and leaving with the upper hand, and A.J. and Joe are booked as criers and winers almost all of the time and who wants to cheer that kind of person. Add to that the fact that the whole point is that Sting is claiming the young guys don't show enough respect and most people probably agree with him and who's the one they're going to cheer?


Saying shut up when you're getting cheered even though you are trying to get booed, may get you cheap heat but it won't last and isn't the kind of heat you need if you want to do an angle like this successfully.

It isn't Sting's fault that this has backfired so bad because I told everyone exactly what would happen a month before they started this nonsense, and I wasn't the only one who knew this was coming. His promo the first week was a great promo, he was in to what he was saying and it would've been a great heel promo. It wasn't a great heel promo because everyone agreed with him, because all the faces in TNA ever do is wine and complain about stuff (remember how earlier this year Samoa Joe complained about his contract and how much money he was making every week, yeah I want to cheer that guy!) and because Sting gets the upperhand he comes across as cool and those guys like idiots.
The only way this doesn't fail even more spectacularly than it already has is if they can find someone to play offof Sting who the fans will want to cheer more than they want to cheer him. Mick Foley may be that guy, we'll have to wait and see. I really doubt Jeff Jarrett is going to be that guy.

It isn't Sting's fault, it isn't Joe or A.J.'s fault it is the fault of the creative team for 1. trying something nobody wanted to see in the first place (Sting turning heel wasn't exactly on the wishlist of fans everywhere) and 2. not having the logic or sense to know how to do it effectively once they started.

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The Dudley's are a great example of how to be heels, by insulting the fans. Sting should learn from that if he wants to become a better heel. The crowd starts cheering? Say something to make them boo. Really, it's that simple. No, it's not cheap and temporary. If he keeps doing it, the fans will start to hate him. Keep in mind, this is the Impact Zone with many of the same fans in the crowd week after week.

I don't blame AJ and Joe at all for not getting any reaction. The writing team gave them not much to say at all. Like I said, what AJ had to stay backstage should've been done with Sting in the ring.

~T

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If that's the case, then how would/do you explain Stone Cold Steve Austin's "failed" heel turn? Not trying to be argumentative...just wondering what your take is regarding SCSA's heel-turn attempt--do you think fans would have (eventually) accepted him as a classic heel, regardless of whether SC put in the effort to try to turn heel?

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I can't say I remember much about Austin. But I'm sure he still had the same personality and mic delivery. Something that could've helped with his heel turn was for them to give him a more heelish theme music, like one that Regal has. It doesn't help for him to have the same music that fans will instantly cheer.

A perfect example of a heel turn is with Chris Jericho. He's totally committed himself to being a heel. He has been able to change the way he talks, the way he moves, his facial expressions. I was never that big a fan of him, but he's done an excellent job at being a heel. If Jericho went back to the type of heel he was in WCW, he wouldn't be boo'ed like he is now. It's not enough to just do bad things or say bad things, it matters how one does those bad things and how one says those bad things.

~T