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if they are letting him go after the heavyweight title, they should have him drop the x division title (a triple threat match where he doesn't get pinned would work since he technically can still keep his unbeaten streak)

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They did try, but he chose TNA because he felt it was a better fit. It is rumored that WWE wanted to turn him in to the next Rikishi.

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Ryan, I posted the iMPACT spoilers from last night on the previous page but... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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This show wasn't a good follow-up to the PPV. They tried to do so many different things and they didn't meld together well.

So they are making us wait another week to see what's going on with the title?

Not sure how Cornette is going to do in TNA. He's good on the mic but needs to learn how to say less. The crowd doesn't seem to care for him much.

The backstage stuff between 3D and JG felt out of place.

Eric Young was pretty funny.

I forwarded through the Knockouts video.

It's nice to see the X-Division title off of Joe. So I guess this means he could be going for the heavyweight title. Senshi should make a good champion and it'll allow guys like Dutt, Lethal and Shelley to be more convincing as challengers to the title.

~T

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I can't hate Jim Cornette ever after what he does next week. Although a little more brevity on an hour show is essential.

Joe is on the road to the world title, how long a road that is has yet to be seen but if it were me, and lord knows sometimes I think it should be, I'd be milking this for all its worth.

I've always been on the Eric Young band wagon.

Team 3D and the James Gang trying to settle their differences with a game of yo mama jokes was a funny idea on paper I'm sure, but it doesn't make it past the first 10 seconds before you're like what the hell?

The X-title match saved this show for me. If TNA were to put the belt on Joe, they'd have Joe, Senshi and Styles/Daniels as champions, it would be a workrate fan's dream.

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I think the backstage momma jokes between 3D and Gang would've worked inside the ring in front of the crowd.

~T

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"The problem with Steiner is that his moves don't come across as hard-hitting"

You should see his old NWA/WCW matches with his brother against Doom and the like from the late 80s. While still big he wasnt freakishly bloated like he became later and was really agile for a guy his size.

Rick Steiner too. I remember watching him on the old UWF/NWA shows from 1987 and thinking this guy was really something. He was in a really great stable w/ Eddie Gilbert and Terry Taylor.

The Steiner brothers gave the best clotheslines in the business in the late 80s/early 90s.

I dont watch wrestling really anymore(except for AJW). Ill occassionally turn it on, but Im gonna try to remember to check out TNA this week, see whats its like.

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Well, I hope you check out TNA, give it a few weeks, tomorrow night is an interesting kind of show, but the wrestling was better on last week's show. If you check it out, let us know what you think. This thread is populated by people with a wide range amount of experience with this product, some (myself) have been watching since the Wednesday night PPV days, others since its been on Fox Sports Net, and still others started with the move to SpikeTV. So it'd be interesting to have another view.

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Will do. Ill be at my G/Fs tomorrow so Ill tape it and comment friday night when I watch the recording.

YouTube has a few clips and I looked at some of them. I did like what I saw. Lots of new faces but I thought it was really entertaining and I can see why you guys like Samoa Joe.Watching that a few old ECW clips, you know it really puts into perspective what WWE is doing.I stopped watched WWE years ago(except for the brief bits Ive seen while flipping through the channels and such)

Loved SharkBoy His promo clips, around Universal park and such were really funny.

Recently Ive been catching up on APW and Arsion and GAEA after being away for a few years.

I really had no idea all of those promotions had closed down. APW had been around sicne the late 60s.Sad.

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I recommend watching TNA for a few weeks. The shows can vary a lot. Also, a PPV might be worth purchasing so that you can see really good matches. Or you can purchase the DVDs for really cheap.

I started watching WCW in the early 90s when one of my local stations picked it up (no cable at that time). I think it was called Worldwide or something. This was around the time when Jake Roberts debuted, Ron Simmons became world champion, British Bulldog debuted, etc. I always had problems with WWF being really cartoonish, so I instantly loved WCW. One of the guys I really liked was Scott Steiner. I think at that time he was teaming with his bro for a while, and then he went singles and became TV champion. He was awesome. I never saw anything like his Frankensteiner before and would always look forward to it.

~T

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Just watched a clip of Samoa Joe Vs Jushin Liger. That way have been the best intro Ive ever seen

"This thread is populated by people with a wide range amount of experience with this product"

I do remember seeing a few early shows, but hearing about Jarretts and Lugers and some of the other WWF,WCW talent kept me away. Its great theyve been able to turn the promotion into something people want to see.

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I think if I were to recommend any DVDs, I would recommend for pay per views TNA: Sacrifice 2005 which IMO was the best PPV of that entire year from a strictly in ring standpoint, Mania was better overall because of the big event feel but this show contains 0 bad wrestling matches.

I would also recommend TNA: Unbreakable 2005 from last September. This was the month after sacrifice and it was almost as good in fact this show contains your TNA match of the year Styles V. Joe V. Daniels which is *****. For a really good deal if you can find it at wal-mart The TNA Anthology contains TNA's first Monthly PPV, Victory Road 2004, its second ever monthly PPV, Turning Point 2004, and its first ever all steel cage show, Lockdown 2005. 3 shows for $20 is pretty damn good from where I sit.

I would of course recommend The Best of Samoa Joe of the 4 DVDs I linked to the Samoa Joe DVD and the anthology set are available in stores, the other 2 PPVs I linked to are only available online at this point from shoptna.com and Highspots.com and of the 2, I'd recommend getting them from Highspots.com because they'll actually ship a lot quicker and the price is exactly the same at both places. I don't know if Sacrifice and Unbreakable will ever make it to stores, but there is a chance they might. Hard Justice from May of last year was available online only for the longest time, but will now be available in Best Buy next Tuesday along with Against All Odds 2006.

I'll tell you, I have been watching TNA on and off since week 2 of the promotion. What got me interested in them was that the second show they had was taped after the first and everyone sending in reports said that the Low Ki Vs. AJ Styles Vs. Jerry Lynn Vs. Psychosis match was awesome. I watched it and it was ****1/4 which I could handle. Those early days had some good wrestling and a lot of really bad stuff too so they have come a long way. For example an early TNA gimmick was Richard and Rod Johnson...the wrestling penises. Kind of puts how far they've come into perspective.

As I'm bored and don't mind doing this, and because I own all but 2 DVDs released by TNA, I'll rank the PPVs at least in my opinion as sort of a buyers guide. Plus, this thread didn't exist for most of these shows.

16. Destination X: 03/13/2005
Worst monthly TNA show ever, this show had exactly 1 good match and it can be found elsewhere. This DVD can be found for very cheap in stores however.
Best Match: AJ Styles Vs. Christopher Daniels Vs. Elix Skipper Vs. Ron Killings, Ultimate X
Worst Match: Monty Brown Vs. Trytan (oh this match was bad)

15. Victory Road: November 2004
This was the first ever monthly PPV for TNA and while not really what I would call a bad show its kind of disappointing, and not necessarily for reasons under TNA's control.
Best match: Petey Williams Vs. AJ styles (but its too short)
Worst: Trinity Vs. Miss Texas (Jacquilline)
The 3 good matches from this show can be found on other DVDs however.

14. Turning Point: December 2004
This show will forever be remembered for "the spot" when Elix Skipper walks the cage. This show has a few good matches, the XXX Vs. Americas Most Wanted Cage match, Petey Williams Vs. Chris Sabin and a couple of decent under card matches. It also has a lot of time wasting stuff, and a thousand year old looking Macho Man. The good can be found on best of DVDs however.
Best Match: XXX Vs. AMW in 6 sides of steel, Elix Skipper is insane.
Worst: Raven Vs. DDP

13. Hard Justice: May 15, 2005
This show is just kind of a show, not bad just bla.
Best Match: NWA World Heavyweight title Jeff Jarrett Vs. AJ Styles
Worst: Stupid gauntlet thing.

12. Bound for Glory: Oct. 23, 2005
This show isn't necessarily bad, in fact Monsters Ball 2, The Chris Daniels Vs. AJ Styles Ironman match and the opening 4 way X-division match are all quite good. But, this show is incredibly rushed giving Joe/Lyger only 7 minutes? This is a show of too much stuff.
Best Match: Monsters Ball II, Jeff Hardy V. Sabu V. Abyss V. Rhino
Worst: Diamonds in the Rough V. Apolo, Sonny Siaki and Shark Boy

As this post is already very long and as I'm tired of writing, I'll finish later.

BTW, old School Scott Steiner ruled, but I'll say this much for him now, TNA is using him far better than the WWE did.

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But come on now those "Vince McMahon/Triple H" segments were damn funny. Especially the one line "Triple H" gave on the last one....

"But daddy I found a gym and I got a workout. I feeeeeel great!"

I can't remember who did "Vince McMahon" but it was blatantly obvious that "Triple H" was done by Petey Williams. Great stuff.

PS - No Raven match should ever be called a "worst" match....... well except that dud against A1 from a few PPVs ago.

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You forgot about the fact that this match involved Erik Watts who is worse than 10 A-1's.

and I'm pretty sure that the HHH in that skit was actually not Petey Williams, at least I don't recall it being him anyway. Vinny McDaddy was played by Tim Weltch a TNA office employee at the time.

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Team Canada being broken up was everything I hoped it would be and more.

Thank heavens its over, I'm so tired of their finishes to their matches, this group should've been broken up last year.

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Oops! Spoiler!

Good to read they've been broken up.

~T

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Samoa Joe DVD is onthe way.Hopefully Ill have it monday.

Ive seen quite a few matches now including SJoe vs AJ Styles Vs CDaniels, a coupl SJoe vs AJ Styles and some others

Looks good to me

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T, sorry for the spoiler, sometimes I forget that you don't watch Impact the night it airs...

Jon, you'll love that DVD.

The only TNA DVD I can't really recommend is the Christopher Daniels DVD because its clipped all to hell, the Joe DVD is uncut.

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Had a blackout becuase of weather in northeast so it didnt tape. ill catch the impact repeat tomorrow night.

Watched the Joe DVD and think its excellent. Im trying to get my brother to watch it )hes busy with schoolwork). My dad would have loved this stuff. He was a wrestling fan his whole life.

TNA has a new fan. Joe,Styles,Sabin, Daniels - they guys have some real ability. This puts WWF(I refuse to call it E) to shame.

Im gonna make sure I start tuning in and will order PPVs to support them.

!!!!

I see a few larger names on thier website, JJ Amstrong,Kevin Nash,Steiner, The Dudleys and I read Sting got a 6 figure 1 year deal. I hope these guys learned from WCWs failures. While I watched WCW when it got bought out by Turner, I wasnt a fan of what it turned into a few years later. The old timers and their egos, walking when they dont get their way and all the other behind the scenes BS. Theres some good workers here and I hope that they can keep those bigger egos in check and do whats best for the company.

Anway, thanks for the info everyone.

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Impact was mediocre for the second week in a row.

I hate it when an overbooked match goes on too long. If they aren't going to take the match seriously, then just have it be as short as necessary, no need to pretend there is a match going on.

The tag team brawl was pretty good. I've noticed that in TNA, a lot of the time whenever a person accidently hits his tag team partner, the timing is really off.

The meeting was the best part of the show. I was surprised it came off as well as it did.


It's okay. I forgot the show aired already in other parts of the country.

Jon, there are lots of guys with great ability in TNA and they actually get the chance to show off their talent, unlike in WWE. Those matches you've been watching with Joe, AJ, Daniels are as good as they'll get anywhere, so don't expect all matches in TNA to be like that. The big names have actually been utilized pretty well in TNA to help put over their guys. Actually, among the big names, I would say Nash doesn't seem to have a good history of putting other people over, but lately he's been used in a good role.

~T

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I haven't liked the wrestling on Impact the last couple of weeks, but the storylines have carried the show more than before. Plus, with some things that went on too long finally ending, Zbysko and Raven and the entire Team Canada stable it just seems like its starting to be freshened up a bit. Plus if they made semi-regular teams out of Sabin/Lethal and Shelley/Devine I'd have no problem with it strengthening the tag rankings.

I like the LAX storyline, mainly because I like Konnan as a talker and think that Homicide can carry the work in the ring. He'll finally get a chance to show what he can do at tomorrow night's taping.

I didn't mind the Team Canada match because I knew they were breaking up, plus Eric Young trying to keep them from interfering was a highlight. That guy is going to be a major babyface in the X-division.

Here's how I look at TNA as compared to the WWF/E. WWF/E knows how to put on a big show and make it feel big, Wrestlemania is an example but so is the Rumble. A lot of the TNA shows are indistinguishable from 1 another, Lockdown is different because of the fact its an all cage show, and Slammiversary has King of the Mountain but all the other PPVs feel like all the other PPVs.

However, having said that and trust me as someone that hasn't missed a TNA monthly PPV since the first 1 Victory Road, there have been more good one's then bad if you like in-ring wrestling. Even a less than stellar show is likely to have at least 1 or 2 good matches.

But the biggest difference is that I never watch TNA and feel like my intelligence has been insulted. I never watch TNA and walk away from it embarrassed to be a wrestling fan and that's even if the shows are not that good which iMPACT can be, but even a bad iMPACT doesn't feel like a chor to sit through. But sometimes, watching the WWE I cringe in embarrassment because of what I see. Dr. Hiney removing props from a fake Jim Ross ass, Katie Vick, the Kiss my ass club you name it. A bad TNA show is just there, not memorable for anything and the bad angles are bland and forgotten after awhile, but that is not always the case with the WWE.

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I really enjoyed the Jim Cornette /meeting segment.

I even convinced my brother who hasnt watched wrestling in a decade to turn it on while he worked on schoolwork.

What do the PPVs usually go for anyway?

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A PPV is about $30.

~T

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As T said its about $30, $29.95 in fact. Now that's $10 cheaper than the WWE shows and the wrestling is usually better.

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thanks

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1.1 rating for this week's show.

The shows are available on ITunes now.

~T

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The highlight of Impact for me was 2 fold. Eric Young being Eric Young and the fact that they finally let Homicide show us a glimpse of what he is capable of and if you know his reputation you know its a lot.

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The opener was good. First time we got to see some moves from Homicide in TNA.

Franchise and Naturals was great for what it was. I didn't like how it was introduced into the show, though. It just felt out of place.

Eye Spy was great stuff.

Joe's promo was really good. I didn't like his first promo but he's gotten really good at it.

I don't know if they are trying something new by having the camera pick up the conversations at ringside.

I haven't seen the main event yet.

~T