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post #31 of 260
10/5/05 at 3:33pm
DVD-A AND regular DVD 5.1 for those of us who do not have DVD-A yet.

Every Warner DVD-A I have includes DD and/or DTS for backwards compat.

-p
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post #32 of 260
10/5/05 at 4:48pm
Shows you what I know!
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post #33 of 260
10/6/05 at 10:55am
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WinDVD has DVD-A decoding capabilities.
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post #34 of 260
10/6/05 at 12:48pm
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On a related note, I saw A History of Violence last night. Howard Shore scored this as well. I guess he just had to squeeze it in, working on King Kong at the same time, or whatever, but the end titles suite sounds like a FotR outtake!
I thought all of the quieter music in AHoV had a FotR feel to it. Not a direct melodic copy by any means, but very similar sound palette and chords. A good way to put it would be that the score often sounded like it was just about to burst into one of the familiar LotR themes. To be honest, it kind of took me out of the movie (especially with Viggo on screen).
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post #35 of 260
10/7/05 at 1:39pm
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It's finally up for preorder:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BNI90O/

$59.98 MSPR, and no usual Amazon discount, at least of yet. Release date is given as 12/06.
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post #36 of 260
10/7/05 at 6:36pm
CD Universe has it up for pre-order as well, for $41.99 (30% off). And... there's a track listing!!!

Disc 1
  1. Prologue: One Ring To Rule Them All
  2. The Shire
  3. Bag End
  4. Very Old Friends
  5. Flaming Red Hair
  6. Farewell Dear Bilbo
  7. Keep It Secret
  8. Keep It Safe
  9. A Conspiracy Unmasked
  10. Three Is Company
  11. The Passing Of The Elves
  12. Saruman The White
  13. A Shortcut To Mushrooms
  14. Strider
  15. The Nazgul
Disc 2
  1. Weathertop
  2. The Caverns Of Isengard
  3. Give Up The Halfling
  4. Orthanc
  5. Rivendell
  6. The Sword That Was Broken
  7. The Council Assembles
  8. Great Eye
  9. Gilraen's Memorial
  10. The Pass Of Caradhras
  11. The Doors Of Durin
  12. Moria
  13. Gollum
  14. Balin's Tomb
Disc 3
  1. Khazad-dum
  2. Caras Galadhon
  3. The Mirror Of Galadriel
  4. The Fighting Uruk-hai
  5. Parth Galen
  6. The Departure Of Boromir
  7. The Road Goes Ever On...
Notice Disc 1, Track 12 - "The Passing Of The Elves". That's an Extended Edition scene!! Woo hoo!!
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post #37 of 260
10/7/05 at 9:16pm
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That doesn't seem to be the complete listing for Disc 3. Only seven tracks? And no "May It Be"? Also tracks are all either renamed or split and/or combined, as the original score has the following tracks:

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1. The Prophecy
2. Concerning Hobbits
3. The Shadow Of The Past
4. The Treason Of Isengard
5. The Black Rider
6. At The Sign Of The Prancing Pony
7. A Knife In The Dark
8. Flight To The Ford
9. Many Meetings
10. The Council Of Elrond
11. The Ring Goes South
12. A Journey In The Dark
13. The Bridge Of Khazad Dum
14. Lothlorien
15. The Great River
16. Amon Hen
17. The Breaking Of The Fellowship
18. May It Be
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post #38 of 260
10/9/05 at 12:32am
There's some discussion of this set over in the FotR thread in the Movies section. In this post someone copied an interview about the set, in which it was stated that the tracks would be on the long side:

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...the tracks on the FOTR set are representative of the musical breaks. Tracks end where silence occurs, which means they’re mostly on the lengthier side. I won’t tell you the exact breakdown, but it looks like there will be over 30 tracks split between the three discs. Personally, I think it’s great. This is not a sound-bite type of score.
Given this, the 7 tracks on CD 3 makes sense, as there was a lot of music without many breaks near the end of the film. These will probably all be long tracks. "May It Be" is probably heard as part of the final track, which I imagine is the final few minutes of the film and the entire credits sequence.

Another interesting tidbit from that interview:

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As I’ve hinted at above, you will hear a bit of unreleased music on this set, but most of what was written for the first film actually ended up in the film. In fact, most of the alternate versions of the compositions were released on the original soundtrack CD.
This is not too surprising; as we all know, "The Breaking of the Fellowship", while a great track, differed quite a bit from what we heard in the film.
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post #39 of 260
10/10/05 at 9:50am
Does anyone know if $41.99 is the best price?
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post #40 of 260
10/10/05 at 10:10am
The price drops begin...at least lets hope so...

The amazon.com link above now says $53.99...10% off the MSRP of $59.99 (a savings of $5.99).
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post #41 of 260
10/17/05 at 8:07am
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Amazon has posted details on the score:

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An epic film score receives epic treatment with The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring/Complete Recordings. Released for the first time on CD, the complete score for the first film in the Lord of the Rings trilogy contains more than 180 minutes of music on three CDs plus a DVD-Audio disc of the entire score in Surround Sound. Breathtaking and majestic, the 2001 Oscar and Grammy winning score compsted by Howard Shore also includes Enya's Oscar nominated "May It Be." For fans of any of The Lord of the Rings films, the Fellowship of the Ring/Complete Recordings is an essential experience.


And the release is now set for 12/13.
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post #42 of 260
10/17/05 at 8:34am
Thx, Paul. So--IF Amazon is accurate--it's what Warner did with parts of the R.E.M. and Seal catalogs: a "double disc" package of both CD and DVD-A.

Unfortunately I don't think there's yet Warner precedent for a title released as "double" then being released separately later. When I kvetched about the issue in other threads, some many argued that for a few dollars more DVD-A listeners are getting car playback ability, but I'd just as soon not pay more for the CDs to be "included" (and I'd surmise many non-DVD-A listeners who just want CDs feel similarly?).

If this turns out to be accurate and depending upon packaging, if there are any strictly CDers herein who don't want the DVD-A, I'll be happy to split the cost and take the DVD-A off your hands.

-p
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post #43 of 260
10/17/05 at 10:46am
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but I'd just as soon not pay more for the CDs to be "included" (and I'd surmise many non-DVD-A listeners who just want CDs feel similarly?


I'm really torn on this. In most instances, I think I want both. But with this set, I already own enough of the audio material on CD...that I'd prefer just the DVD-A.

I was just bitchin' in a neighboring thread about how I was unaware that Diana Krall's Girl In The Other Room release had been released BOTH by itself and as a dual disc release. I, of course, had purchased the CD-only copy first and then stumbled upon the dual release--FOR THE SAME PRICE! I'm glad to have the release in 5.1 audio (all her releases sound great in high-rez surround)...but pissed that I had to buy twice to get it!
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post #44 of 260
10/17/05 at 2:03pm
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I have no problem with this set incuding both CD and DVD-A. I can play the CDs in the car, etc., and I can listen to the DVD-A on my PC. Plus I'm sure the packaging will be pretty sweet (any pics anywhere yet?). Note that it now says "more than 180 minutes", and confirms "May It Be" is included.
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post #45 of 260
10/17/05 at 3:19pm
I sure as heck want both CDs & DVD-A!!! The CDs will be ripped to my iPod. The DVD-A will be used for listening sessions at home.

Of course, a multi-disc SACD hybrid release would have covered both needs, but the Warner group don't go there (heck, even Sony hardly does anymore), so this is about the best we can do. Just be glad they're not DualDiscs!!
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post #46 of 260
10/17/05 at 8:02pm
An aside:

I was just bitchin' in a neighboring thread about how I was unaware that Diana Krall's Girl In The Other Room release had been released BOTH by itself and as a dual disc release. . . .

Mike, you're aware that this album was also released on SACD, yes? A release which may have a higher rez surround mix than the Dual's 24/48 . . .

There's been lots of duplication by UMG of the Krall catalog on the three (SACD, DVD-A, Dual) formats.

-p
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post #47 of 260
10/17/05 at 9:19pm
Paul: Yeah, I know Krall is an artist who takes advantage of the SACD format. I, unfortunately, am not a consumer who takes advantage of the SACD format. Maybe someday....

I've got a number of Krall CDs, DVD-As, and now the DualDisc "Girl in the Other Room". I was intrigued by Craig's comment two posts ago about the FOTR release:
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Just be glad they're not DualDiscs!!

Is there something about the DualDisc format some consumers aren't liking?
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post #48 of 260
10/18/05 at 9:00am
Mike, esp. if they're hybrids there's no reason to avoid SACDs just because you don't have a player yet.

And re your question about Duals: In a word, "yes." There have been plenty of threads about Dual issues/problems. Amongst the more significant concerns are vague audio descriptions that make it more difficult to determine whether they contain hi rez content (Sony is not supporting hi rez on Dual at all) and, of course, the "CD" side does not conform to the Redbook spec and may not play on some players. Do a search for more info.

I'd certainly prefer a perhaps double disc DVD-A of the complete scores for all three LOtRs pics rather than a "Double Disc" of just the first pic's score.

-p
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post #49 of 260
10/18/05 at 9:26am
Paul: Thanks for your response.

I've got a lot to learn about the formats. I love the DVD-As. I am frustrated by the lack of available titles on DVD-A...but I guess I'm not the only one.

When I heard about the FOTR release, I figured it would be excellent. I agree its too bad its being packaged with the CDs. It'll be cost-prohibitive for me.
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post #50 of 260
10/19/05 at 9:03pm
Yeah Mike--there's arguably no more reason to avoid hybrid SACDs for lack of an SACD player than there is to avoid DVD-As for lack of a DVD-A player (due to the DD and often DTS included for backwards compat). The Pio 588A universal is inexpensive.

I certainly hope this title makes its street date/indeed gets released as far DVD-A content is concerned. There's plenty of precedent for Warner in particular announcing something for DVD-A and then it never streeting. What with the recent hi def DVD tide swing in favor of Blu-ray (Paramount announced they're supporting both formats and there's speculation Warner Bros. will soon do the same), here's hoping WMG doesn't get cold feet on hi rez . . .

-p
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post #51 of 260
10/27/05 at 11:14am
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SoundtrackCollector has some more info on the tracklisting:

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Disc 1

1. Prologue: One Ring to Rule Them All
2. The Shire
3. Bag End
4. Very Old Friends
5. Flaming Red Hair
6. Farewell Dear Bilbo
7. Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe
8. A Conspiracy Unmasked
9. Three Is Company
10. The Passing of The Elves
11. Saruman the White
12. A Shortcut to Mushrooms
13. Strider
14. The Nazgûl

Disc 2

1. Weathertop
2. The Caverns of Isengard
3. Give Up the Halfling
4. Orthanc
5. Rivendell
6. The Sword That Was Broken
7. The Council of Elrond Assembles Featuring “Aníron (Theme for Aragorn and Arwen)” Composed & performed by Enya
8. The Great Eye
9. Gilraen's Memorial
10. The Pass of Caradhras
11. The Doors of Durin
12. Moria
13. Gollum
14. Balin's Tomb

Disc 3

1. Khazad-dûm
2. Caras Galadhon Featuring “Lament for Gandalf” performed by Elizabeth Fraser
3. The Mirror Of Galadriel
4. The Fighting Uruk-hai
5. Parth Galen
6. The Departure Of Boromir
7. The Road Goes Ever On… Pt. 1
8. May It Be Composed & performed by Enya
9. The Road Goes Ever On… Pt. 2 Featuring “In Dreams” performed by Edward Ross


http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/c...&labelid=39178

Note that on Disc 1, tracks 7 and 8 from the previously released tracklist have been merged into one. And we get confirmation on two more tracks on Disc 3.

Still no cover art, nor runtimes.
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post #52 of 260
10/27/05 at 11:43am
Thx, Paul.

Also at that listing is the following, seemingly adding further confirmation of a "double disc": "First 3 discs feature the complete score to The Fellowship Of The Ring. The 4th disc is a DVD with the complete score again, mastered in 5.1 sound."

Still concerned about the absence of any explicit indication that the DVD includes "Advanced Resolution Surround Sound" instead of DTS or DD though.

-p
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post #53 of 260
10/28/05 at 10:38am
Artwork is up at Amazon.com. (Sorry, can't post hyperlinks just yet.) Looks fantastic, IMO.
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post #54 of 260
10/28/05 at 11:10am


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=music
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post #55 of 260
10/28/05 at 12:05pm
Thanks, Thomas.

That $53.99 price only deepens my wish that what Amazon's "Album Description" says is a DVD-A were available separately.

-p

P.S. - Nice quote from Batman Begins and pic of His Royal Hotness Christian Bale, Thomas.
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post #56 of 260
10/28/05 at 12:25pm
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AWESOME packaging. Would love a 3D shot. As for pricing, for the complete score plus a 5.1 version, I don't mind dropping 50 bucks.
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post #57 of 260
10/28/05 at 1:02pm
Versus less than half that ($14.99), which is what current Warner DVD-A pricing is?

Granted this is four discs not two, but the R.E.M. and Seal "double discs" are $24.99. I think they're gouging a bit here.

-p
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post #58 of 260
10/28/05 at 9:31pm
Looks good - looks like a match for the Extended Edition DVD set.

BTW, the Amazon price is high. CD Universe has the set for $41.99.
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post #59 of 260
10/29/05 at 1:06am
Hmmm--could just be a plain ol' error, but CD Universe lists the set as three discs.

-p
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post #60 of 260
11/7/05 at 1:31pm
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Amazon updated their product page, and strangely, they have the previous tracklisting, with the 16-track first disc, and the 7-track third disc, not the newer version posted over at SoundtrackCollector.

Also, since they're going for that Extended Edition DVD box look, why isn't this packaged in a red case, as opposed to green?
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