Veronica Mars Season 2 - Page 9

It's certainly good news, and bodes well for a Veronica renewal. The fact that it's no longer on "UPN" will keep those who generalize programming on networks to give it a chance. I think it's a sure sign UPN will give the show a chance to gain even more viewers. With one less network competition, both UPN and WB have something to gain.

This is very good news indeed, assuming Veronica gets a renewal...

According to the futon critic it seems like VM will likely be part of the schedule.

As the top creative executive, Ostroff will have available a line-up of some of the most popular programming that appeals to young adults in the media business. These programming assets range from hit reality series such as "America's Next Top Model" and The WB's "Beauty and the Geek," to hit dramas like The WB's "Smallville," "Gilmore Girls," "Supernatural," and UPN's "Veronica Mars" as well as UPN's hit comedies "Everybody Hates Chris" and "Girlfriends" and The WB's hit comedy "Reba." In addition the WWE's "Smackdown," which has been a mainstay at UPN, is expected to play a role in the schedule.****

All of the shows mentioned from The WB seem to be the ones originally planned as returning this fall. The UPN shows listed as well seem to be the most likely to return. It sounds like Veronica is very likely to be renewed, unless ratings plummet in the next four months (which I doubt will happen).

Wow, it was great to finally see a new episode of VM tonight. Loved the cat-n-mouse games between VM, the FBI, Lamb, and the other P.I.

Keith was livid for what VM did to him. That had to crush her.

The fortune "True Love Stories Never Have Endings" also had the Lost numbers on it (I think).

The P.I. (played by Ken Marino) has been in a previous episode of VM.

Vinnie first appeared in Kane's and Abel's, season 1. Keith referred a client to him who needed a sleazy job done, and later Veronica bugged his office (with a pen, which makes his attempt to bug Veronica even more pathetic). I can't believe you don't recall him singing Hall and Oates songs. "Private eye, I'm watching you..."

On a side note, that horror movie Bell's doing looks pretty good from ad tonight. Although I could tell even before I looked it up on IMDb that it's a remake of a Japanese film.

Glad to see Cliff, if only briefly. That guy cracks me up (though, he didn't tonight).

Yeah, those were the Lost numbers on the fortune.

Did anyone else cringe at the way Veronica was handling that CD? Rim and center hole only, babe! Keep that woman away from my CD/DVD collection.

So we finally get to see what was on the fortune from the season premiere.

When Veronica pulled out The Virgin Suicides CD, I said play The Air That I Breathe! When she played How Can You Mend A Broken Heart, I thought that's a good choice too. Then the jumpcut to The Air That I Breathe. Nice.

Loved the "Morning Sam"/"Morning Ralph" between the V's.

Nice shout-out to the Television Without Pity website when V took that phone call next to a bulletin board. Teenage Women of Propriety.

So, is Teddy done (pun intended)?

Rob

I kinda felt sorry for Lamb as he was being put in his place and jerked around. But then I got over it .

I've been listening to a lot of the Al Green GH the last couple of months, but I'm going out and buying Let's Stay Together tomorrow.

So I'm guessing there won't be any fallout for Vernonica for helping Duncan across the border.

Lamb will be pissed, but remember, Veronica has enough dirt on Lamb to deal with him whenever she needs it. She'll never really have to worry about Lamb.

The FBI ended up even more clueless than Lamb.

I know there's a good pun about VM leading Lamb to slaughter, but I just can't quite put it in text quite right.

OK, maybe I'm dense, but if Duncan really is the baby's father and he is now over 18, then why did they abandon the idea of suing for custody of the baby? I know Celeste was against it, but it seems that a biological father who is in the setup that Duncan is(was) shouldn't have problems getting custody.

RG

I expect there'll be major fallout with her dad, but no legal problems. At least not immediately -- the FBI agent's line about kidnapping being something that never goes away hints that this could come back to bite Ronnie on the ass in future seasons.


She doesn't even need dirt. The way Lamb was acting around the Feds, there's no way he'll admit to being duped by some high school kids. I wouldn't be surprised if he tells the deputy not to even mention his run to Mexico.

(Speaking of which, what is up with the new, black deputy? Was he someone famous doing a cameo, or is he setting up a new plotline?)


Too much chance that the Mannings would hire Van Lowe and he'd uncover Duncan's mental problems, I guess. Actually, given that his parents are on trial for obstruction of justice, his mental problems might be in the public record. What judge would give custody to Duncan when his own parents thought he'd murdered his sister during a blackout?

A lot of good stuff in this episode, but I can't say I'm liking the Veronica/Duncan/Baby thread. The Logan/Weev stuff remains to be the most interesting part of the show.

I agree, Matt. The best part of this episode is that Duncan and the baby are now gone, at least for a while.

I don't quite remember what was said about Kendall as Duncan was asking V. about their plans. I kind of got the feeling Kendall was duped into being at the apartment, but the whole thing went by so quickly I wasn't sure how. So umm...same question as Thomas .

Duncan and Kendall did it at least once, but not the night of the setup. Also, was it Vinnie driving the pickup at the end? If so, I guess Celeste was looking for Duncan to help him in his escape.

Duncan paid Vinnie more than Celeste did, that's why he switched. That was what the note from Veronica was setting up. Celeste wasn't in on it.

I wonder if Vinnie will be a reason it comes back to haunt Veronica. The other side just needs to pay him more.

I doubt it, because he is now an accessory to several federal crimes. He doesn't seem the type to want to go to jail.

RG

It takes me a while to get the finer points like that.

Was it me or did the episode just seem... off?
Almost a parody of itself. The only parts that were good was the Logan/Weevil story, which I'm really looking forward to more on that. Seems Logan and Eli learned a little from Ms. Mars.

I don't know the episode though as a whole just seemd weird and off. I can't quite put my finger on it. I knew Veronica was in on the baby-napping with Duncan. That was easy to figure out. There wasn't enough emphasis from other students about the very public "break up".

And who was the girl at the end? I thought it was Meg for a minute but it wasn't, was it the girl that was working for Meg's family?

I am interested to see where this all goes from here.

That blonde gal works for Celeste.

At first it did a little but I attribute that primarily due to the large break between episodes. VM has a whole different pacing and feel than just about anythng else on TV so it was a bit jarring at first after a nearly two month break. By the second commercial break everything felt back to normal for me.

I figured it out long before the reveal. The very public break up and her sulking just wasn't sitting with me -- this isn't the Miss Mars that we know.

Then it all clicked into place when Lamb said something like: "Very ugly break up I hear". Boom, red herring.

Eh... I earned the right to brag, I am usually not this sharp

Where does Carpenter's character fit in all this?

I am not liking Wallace's thread. They should have put a couple of eps between his conversation with Veronica and his past now catching up with him. These two things happening the episode suggest the V tipped off the authorities -- she wouldn't do that.

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H - would she?

Can't say that I got that impression at all.