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post #61 of 87
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Bare Bones - if the stars are still around and the show is less than 25 years old, there ought to at least be some sort of featurettes or something. Maybe a commentary or two. The original Battlestar Galactica had LOTS of deleted scenes, which was nice.


In general I agree with you, but keep in mind it costs money, especially when you have to pay the talent to do commentaries or to show outtakes or deleted scenes.
post #62 of 87
I agree. That's a plenty big "if" to consider, keeping in mind that actors, writers, producers, etc. do eventually pass away, in which case all that can be done is fall back on vintage interview footage shot when they were alive or press on with the surviving cast members.
post #63 of 87
The biggest pet peeves for me are watching those damned commercials that these studios keep putting on the DVD's that you can't skip over as well. 3 minutes of commercial advertisements for upcoming DVD's. If I wanted to watch commercials I'd watch it on network television.

By the way, the music changes? Everyone keeps forgetting that these movie studios have to pay royalties to the originating creators of the music for these TV shows for every DVD that they're placed on. Oftentimes, these studios change the music to avoid those royalties because of the fact that the re-liscensing costs are sometimes too high.

When these shows go to DVD, these studios have to re-negotiate for the home video releases on those music tracks because its in a new area of domain or media. When that music is liscensed to a TV series, it's only for broadcast rights. When it goes to home video, they have to re-negotiate for that right to that piece of music.
post #64 of 87
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The biggest pet peeves for me are watching those damned commercials that these studios keep putting on the DVD's that you can't skip over as well.


What TV release has had unskippable commercials on it? I'm not saying it's never happened, I'm just curious which one since I've never seen it.

And everyone understands why they change music, they just don't like it
post #65 of 87
It sometimes depends on what type of player you have. My parents have a Samsung DVD player from 1997-1998, and you can't skip over any commercials on it. I had a cheap Apex, however, that I could skip over anything on.
post #66 of 87
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In my opinion, Seinfeld is doing it right in terms of packaging
as well as every other aspect of the DVD.

I guess one of my pet peeves (which isn't a huge one) is 'consistent' packaging. They did this with Cheers. The first season doesn't have "Season 1" on the spine, so when you look at all of the DVD's on your shelf, you see the numbers 2-6, but no 1...as you can see in this example.
post #67 of 87
To be fair, though, that's minor in comparison to other series, including Frasier (man, is Frasier getting bigger and bigger on the spines) and the most infamous of all, the Law & Order sets.
post #68 of 87
1) Commercial, why would I want to pay for commercials?

2) No chapter stop after opening credits.

3) The simpsons season 6 homer head. It looked neat online, but so cheesy in real life.

4) Paying for the alternate package for the homer head.
post #69 of 87

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After buying into the seasons. The Show comes out with a Complete box set with extras that the seasons didn't have.

For instance which is nuts. The MASH set and ALIAS
post #70 of 87

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Originally Posted by Dean C
After buying into the seasons. The Show comes out with a Complete box set with extras that the seasons didn't have.

For instance which is nuts. The MASH set and ALIAS

The Homicide set is even worse. They had three cross-over episodes with Law & Order. Those three episodes have been included with the big set, but not the original releases. As far as I know, those seasons of Law & Order aren't even available on DVD. So the big set is the only way to get them on DVD.
post #71 of 87

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Originally Posted by MarkHarrison
As far as I know, those seasons of Law & Order aren't even available on DVD. So the big set is the only way to get them on DVD.
I believe that's true. They just announced S5 of L&O, and I think the first L&O/HLOTS crossover happens in L&O's S6. I do wonder what Universal will do when it hits those episodes. All three crossovers have their conclusions in HLOTS episodes; while you can watch the HLOTS eps and pick up what you need to know from the "Previously, on 'Law & Order'..." intros (although I would certainly prefer to have the complete episode), you sure can't have the beginning of the story in the set without including the conclusion.
post #72 of 87

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my pet peeves are :


double sided discs ( no art cover on it, can get scratched easily and hard to find which side is what )

big dvds with long panels and over lapping discs

no booklets explaining the eps if its not on the back of slim cases if thats the case

no special features on dvds that could have potential to have the special features!!!

dvds that are released and not released again after 1st or 2nd season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! esp WHOS THE BOSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

dvds that arent released in season sets!!!
post #73 of 87

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[quote=MatthewA]Well said, Brett.

What I also don't like:

—Colorization (With Bewitched, I had to break down and get it online, because no B&M stores had the black and white version). Do they put out black and white versions of color shows?

Agreed on this point. I'd never had any trouble with this since I ordered my Bewitched sets from Amazon.com, and I specifically ordered the B & W versions for seasons 1 and 2.
post #74 of 87

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Originally Posted by Mary_P
All three crossovers have their conclusions in HLOTS episodes; while you can watch the HLOTS eps and pick up what you need to know from the "Previously, on 'Law & Order'..." intros (although I would certainly prefer to have the complete episode), you sure can't have the beginning of the story in the set without including the conclusion.
I'd guess that as part of the cross-licensing deal, they'll be able to put the HLOTS eps in the L&O set as an extra. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Everyone's happy all around.

If only they were indeed that sensible; we'll see. (FWIW, I ponied up to buy the HLOTS mega set, even though I already owned the indvidual season sets, precisely to get the extra disc. One really expensive early-Christmas present for myself...)
post #75 of 87

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i also dont like when u cant skip chapters... i jus noticed on friends dvds, u cant skip chapters
post #76 of 87

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I guess I have a number of pet peeves.

1) Over animated menus. Paramount is the worst offender in this regard to me. If I'm going to watch four or five star trek episodes in a row I don't need to be forced through watching the Enterprise or Voyager or a Klingon Bird of pray fly in and be identified. Nor do I need to see a bullet go through a body and than zoom in on it for CSI.

2) Double sided discs. They damage easily and I hate having to figure out which side is which when the light isn't on. Warner abandoned them, Universal seems to as well. We just need Fox now to give them up.

3) Overlapping packages. Slim cases should become a standard now.

4) Too much/too cool/gimmicky packaging. Star Trek, The Simpsons, the original BSG... really anyone who thinks it's a good idea to put the DVDs in a character's HEAD, it's a bad idea.

5) No chapter stop after the opening credits. If I'm watching five episodes of Law & Order I don't need to hear the theme music five times.

6) Universal's loud logo.
post #77 of 87

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Originally Posted by Katherine_K
I guess I have a number of pet peeves.

1) Over animated menus.
2) Double sided discs.
5) No chapter stop after the opening credits. If I'm watching five episodes of Law & Order I don't need to hear the theme music five times.

Over animated menus make me mad. I hate it in NYPD Blue. The menu's aren't even really animated that much, but they're horribly slow. I like to be able to speed through menus.

I also hate when there's no chapter stop after the opening credits. Family Guy is the show that first comes to mind. I have to watch that retarded opening that i've seen hundreds of times, or mess around with the "scan" feauture on my remote which inevitably leads to me having to go back, because I've went ahead too far into the episode.
post #78 of 87

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I hate hate hate double sided discs. And the latest trend - season set volumes such as the upcoming Untouchables or Spongebob Season 4 volume 1 and 2. They cost more per episode that way. I want to be able to buy the full season of a program. Why not provide the choice?
post #79 of 87

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Here a Peeve. You buy a DVD. You open the case and try to remove the disk. Usually the disk is "Nested" in the case with some Fingerholes to lift the disk. Sometimes Half of those fingerholes have some kind of Bar across it which makes it difficult to lift the disk. Why? THIS IS HOW SOME DISKS GET DAMAGED! Make ALL the Fingerholes accessable!
post #80 of 87

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Originally Posted by Josh LM
Over animated menus make me mad. I hate it in NYPD Blue. The menu's aren't even really animated that much, but they're horrible slow. I like to be able to speed through menus.

Oh I hate those menus for another reason. I watch them on a computer and i have to use an arrow pad to move it about, unlike EVERY other DVD I own it does not allow mouse commands.
post #81 of 87
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Originally Posted by Katherine_K View Post
5) No chapter stop after the opening credits. If I'm watching five episodes of Law & Order I don't need to hear the theme music five times.


That, in spades! I have the #1 release of "Matt Houston," and there is no chapter stop when the title sequence ends. Instead they put the first chapter stop after Act 1, which means that Act 1 is linked with the title sequence in the same chapter! How dumb can Paramount be in that regard?!

post #82 of 87

My biggest pet peeve is when I can't even skip the company logo sequence on a PC. Lions Gate is the worst offender, as their opening sequence is so unnecessarily slow.

 

In many cases, I can skip or speed through it when playing a DVD on a computer, even though it can't be done on the TV. But not Lions Gate, who seem to go out of their way to make it frustrating.

post #83 of 87

I have *many* "pet peeves" with TVonDVD releases.  While numbered, after #4 these are in no particular order and change depending on mood.  Numbers 1-4 are *always* in those positions.

 

1. Abandoning a series once it's started.  Yes, I understand the law of diminishing returns.  Just go into it with that understanding and commit to getting the entire series out for true fans.  Use Time/Live as an example.  Start with a full series set and break it up later for those who do not want the whole ball of wax.

2. Double sided disks.  I stopped collecting "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" simply because I *never* got good copies of S1V1 and S1V2.  I'd jump on the rest *if* they were single sided, but I'll not even try again on that series due to use of DS disks.  There are series I've not yet purchased because they are on DS disks.

3. Digipak packaging.  The "genius" who thought up this crapfest of packaging should be left in the wilderness for a few days.  Hold-down tines break, trays become unglued, trays easily break, paperboard backing tears, etc., etc.  None of which are easily repairable, some not at all.  This one goes for CD packaging as well.

4. Cut/edited episodes.  Any reason. Don't give me syndicated episodes!  If a syndicated episode is the *only* one available, tell me - I *might* understand.  I understand that greed (corporate/artists/etc) over music rights pretty much require music cuts in many series, but *plainly* state this.  (RANT: I just do *not* understand the mindset of the music pigopolists.  Including original music is *good* for their acts and in many cases could expose someone to music they've never heard before thus actually generating sales for "stale" acts which are demanding royal sums for a short clip of a song!  I wish the persons responsible for keeping music off iconic series due to exhorbitant fees could be "outed" so we could boycot the artists they represent. END RANT)

5. Unskippable material (warnings, commercials, logos, etc.)

6. No "Play All" function (while I don't use it often, it's nice to have)

7. Continuing to the next episode when a single one has been chosen rather than going back to the menu (If I want one at a time I *want* one at a time!! - Don't just automatically go to the next.  I'll use "Play All" for that!)

8. When I chose a single episode, start it playing!  Don't give me *another* menu where I select the first scene to start!

9. No sub-titles or CC.  Give me at least one!  I'd rather have sub-titles, but I'll accept CC.  I tend to watch late at night while others are trying to sleep.  These make it easier for me to watch at a lower audio level. (Worst offender - A&E who airs material with CC but leaves it off the release!)

10. Stacked or overlapping tray packaging (either amaray or digipak - both are bad, bad, bad)

12. "Special" packaging.  This junk is always bad.  Just put 'em in a slim case - prefereably dual-disk type inside a sturdy slip-case.

12. No chapter stop after opening credits

13. Inability to skip end credits without fast forwarding

14. Animated menu of *any* type

15. Music on menu (Do I *really* need to hear the theme song looped forever?  And why is it significantly louder than an episode volume?)

16. Episodes not presented in "air date" order *or* "Production" order (depending on which is best) - Looking at *you* Shanachie for "Car 54" in "favorite" order!  Absurd to the max!  Of course let's not forget to give recognition to "Earth 2", "Sliders", "Firefly", and any other series where Production order makes for better, more logical, viewing.

17. Lack of a episode guide.  Even a simple list is better than nothing!

18. No chapter stops at all!  Even if it's only a stop every 4-5 minutes with no rhyme or reason give me some!

19. Extra/Bonus disks only available in a full series release which comes out *after* all the seasons have been released individually over several years.  At least make this available separately to the fans who supported the individual releases.  If you really want to foster good will make it available for free with some type of proof the entire series was purchased.  Just make sure it's *not* something that forces us to deface the individual releases.  A simple "save this card for future use" insert would work well and be inexpensive to include even if it's never used.

20. Alteration of opening/closing credit sequences by removing original production house/distributor information and/or replacing it with/adding the new distributor. This is fine when you syndicate it to a local station but *not* on a DVD release!  Sony seems to be the worst. 

21. Too many episodes per disk.  I'd rather limit it to 3 60 minute or 6 30 minute episodes per disk.  Yeah, I know you can do 4/8 fairly well but I feel that's pushing it a bit.

22. No spoilers on outer packaging or menus.  Put it in episode guides but *indicate* this on the outside of the guide!  After all, there are times an episode can't be described without using a spoiler.  This is why I never look at guide listings of serialized programs.

23. OAR.  If originally WS then make it anamorphic.  It bugs me to watch Babylon 5 in WS.  It was shot FS and the effects were done for FS.  Turning it into "fake" WS ruined many aspects of the show.

24. Split season releases at full season prices.  If you want to offer a half-season at a "reasonable" (half a normal full season on a comparable series) price, well... that's better but I *still* don't like it.  Basically *anything* that's not a full season at once unless it comes *after* a full series release.  That includes "Best of" releases.  (I'd forgot about those in spite of mentioning "Voyage..." above.  Thanks to ThatDonGuy below for the reminder in his list!)


Edited by BobO'Link - 5/18/11 at 6:43am
post #84 of 87
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Originally Posted by BobO'Link View Post
20. Alteration of opening/closing credit sequences by removing original production house/distributor information and/or replacing it with/adding the new distributor. This is fine when you syndicate it to a local station but *not* on a DVD release!  Sony seems to be the worst. 



About the replacement of old logos with new--Sony did that on the complete release of "Blue Thunder." That ABC series was not Rastar/Public Arts IAW Sony; it was R/PA IAW CPT (a unit of the Coca-Cola Company).

 

Similarly, "Taxi" was a John Charles Walters Production IAW Paramount, but the Paramount logo then was not Viacom's MoM. It was the Blue Mtn. w/Gulf+Western byline. It was the same way with "Cheers"; that one was Charles-Burrows-Charles IAW Paramount, but the Blue Mtn. was replaced by Viacom's MoM there as well.

 

Fortunately, there are some releases that got the record right, like "MacGyver" for instance. That one was a Henry Winkler/John Rich Production IAW Paramount; the best thing about that is that the Blue Mtn. of the first two seasons was retained on those releases. Another one is "The Brady Bunch," in that Paramount's Split Box was retained in all its glory.

 

But still, it ought to bug purists like us who like to see the shows the way they were really presented, and not how revisionists want us to see them.

 

post #85 of 87

My list of rants / peeves / whatever, in order:

 

1.  Double sided discs, mainly for the "which side is which?" problem (there is one season of Rocky & Bullwinkle & Friends that has these, and it is almost impossible to read the label on the inner ring)

2.  Cardboard sleeve packaging - we get the idea, Matt Groening; you're "going green" with non-plastic packaging (except for the Futurama Blu-Rays, that is).

3.  No extras for recent shows - I can understand why The Phil Silvers Show Season 1 doesn't have them (I wouldn't be surprised if they never had any extras; a number of episodes have scenes with blatant acting goofs left in), but Duckman wasn't made that many years ago, and I can't believe nobody kept any deleted scenes around.  For older series, where I am just glad to have the episodes, extras aren't really necessary.

4.  Cut episodes.  (Somebody actually called up Larry King during his Roseanne reunion show a few years ago to complain about Season 1 having syndicated versions, and Roseanne Barr said she was aware of the problem and that subsequent seasons would be uncut.)

5.  Promos you can't skip or fast-forward; this might have been higher had I seen more of this in my collection, but the only ones I can think of that I have are the WWE "Don't Try This At Home" PSAs.

6.  Releasing partial seasons at a time - A&E's Monty Python and The Prisoner (especially the latter - three episodes at a time!) are notorious for this.

7.  Stopping a series between seasons - again, this would be higher, except that they do make a valid case for some shows (the music rights vs. sales for Murphy Brown comes to mind).  The one that drives me crazy is Animaniacs, which stopped after 75 of its 99 episodes.

 

 

post #86 of 87

^Thanks for the reminder of "split season" releases!  I'd forgotten about them until your post!!!

post #87 of 87

1. Double sided discs

2. A studio putting out all but one or two (or even more) seasons of a show and never finishing it

3. The little clicky-tab thing that supposedly closes dvd and blu-ray cases

4. Eco cases

5. dvd cases/boxes that use cardboard slots to hold the discs where you have to jam the discs between rough surfaces

6. Not having all features from previous editions on all newer versions

7. non anamorphic video

8. not having original version of the audio

9. having slipcovers only for a limited time

10. edited/censored episodes

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