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post #241 of 391
3/9/08 at 11:22pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

So I was in Mexico City for the past week and I picked up El Hombre Nuclear (The Six Million Dollar Man) Season One & La Mujer Bionica (Bionic Woman) Season One on (R4) DVD. Looking on various boards (and reading bits of this one), I see the Europeon versions of the Six Million Dollar Man box sets have 6 Discs with a couple of two parters thrown into the mix.

The Six Million Dollar Man set I have is 5 Discs and has 16 episodes (times are approx.):

Disc One:

The Six Million Dollar Man (74 Minutes)
Wine, Women and War (74 Minutes)

Disc Two:

Population: Zero (51 Minutes)
The Solid Gold Kidnapping (74 minutes)
Survival of the Fittest (51 Minutes)
Operation Firefly (51 Minutes)

Disc Three:

Day of the Robot (51 Minutes)
Little Orphan Airplane (51 Minutes)
Doomsday, and Counting (51 Minutes)
Eyewitness to Murder (51 Minutes)

Disc Four:

The Rescue of Athena One (51 Minutes)
Dr. Wells is Missing (51 Minutes)
The Last of the Fourth of Julys (51 Minutes)

Disc Five:

Burning Bright (51 Minutes)
The Coward (51 Minutes)
Run, Steve, Run (51 Minutes)


Am I missing or gaining anything from the Europeon sets? I'm a bit baffled now.

Thanks.
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post #242 of 391
3/10/08 at 9:08am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

I cant be 100% sure, since I'm not at home and can't check - but it *looks* right. No extras and I belive that's the first season, right down to the two movies.

So yeah - a non-pal version, it seems.
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post #243 of 391
3/10/08 at 9:22am
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Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

Tony,

That looks right to me as well although I'm more into the BW series than 6M$M. I didn't get the 6M$M S1 R2 set due to the below-ave xfr's on the set. It's a shame that the 6M$M R2 set wasn't remastered but it's the best available since it's the only official Universal release. I have the 6M$M R4 S2 set mainly since it contains the BW Pilot 2-parter. It's watchable but fortunately for me, the BW S1 & S2 R2/4 sets have excellent quality xfrs.

What I'm wondering about is if Universal Playback is going to continue releasing these 2 series. It's been over a year since the Oct '06 S2 releases in R2/4. Has anyone in the UK seen any mention of an S3 release in another set of Universal's overseas TV/DVD sets?
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post #244 of 391
3/10/08 at 11:02am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

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Originally Posted by Tony J Case
So yeah - a non-pal version, it seems.

That is correct. It's NTSC and Regions 1 & 4. The back of the box says it's Anamorphic and has 5.1 surround sound but inspecting the discs, that info is incorrect. They're in their original square formats and mono.

Thanks for the info guys.
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post #245 of 391
7/27/08 at 3:42pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewR
... I see the Europeon versions of the Six Million Dollar Man box sets have 6 Discs with a couple of two parters thrown into the mix.

The Six Million Dollar Man set I have is 5 Discs and has 16 episodes (times are approx.):

Disc One:

The Six Million Dollar Man (74 Minutes)
Wine, Women and War (74 Minutes)

Disc Two:

Population: Zero (51 Minutes)
The Solid Gold Kidnapping (74 minutes)

...

Am I missing or gaining anything from the Europeon sets? I'm a bit baffled now.

Thanks.
I'm tempted to say "you lucky devil!" What it looks like, from the running times, is that you have the original versions of the three pilot telefilms.

Particularly since "The Six Million Dollar Man" (1973) was renamed "The Moon and the Desert" when it and the other two telefilms were re-edited as two-parters, when the shows were prepped for syndication back in '78. If it has the old name, it's likely it's the old cut!

The re-edited versions introduce more footage from other episodes, and cut the films' pacing and coherence, retconning and bringing down the production values. This was the same process that swapped three episodes between the shows, without finesse. With the exception of the Discovision release of the first film, they have never been released in the US or really seen since the 70's, being replaced by these 2-part Frankenstein creations. I believe the first two have been out in the UK on PAL VHS, long out of print.

If you've got what it looks like you've got, it may bode well for the future of getting these in their original form in the US, whenever they eventually get the rights issues sorted out. Perhaps the original cuts didn't get taken out of circulation in Mexico, I don't know. Look for Dusty Springfield singing the intro for movies two and three!

On the matter of The Bionic Woman, I've heard there may be a release of Season 3 in Germany. Just a rumor, but if so it would be the first anywhere.
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post #246 of 391
7/27/08 at 5:58pm
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Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

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Originally Posted by Joseph Burns
On the matter of The Bionic Woman, I've heard there may be a release of Season 3 in Germany. Just a rumor, but if so it would be the first anywhere.

I think "Koch" Video is releasing the BW S3 season in Germany. I'm not 100% certain but it appears to be an official release liscenced from Universal Pictures Germany. If so, then I'd guess that an R2/4 S3 release would be coming as well. I would sure like to see both shows get S3 & 4 (for 6M$M) releases in the UK & Australia soon. So far there's not word about a German 6M$M S3 release.

Still nothing up at the usual UK sites for S3 news & nothing at ezdvd (Au).

However, things are looking better for possible continued R2/4 releases soon. Seems that Universal's Italian Co will be releasing S1-3's for both shows this fall. An overseas contact says that the cover art is already available for the Italian releases. There's no early word yet about possible English subtitles. Lee M & Lindsay were recently in Italy for appearances. Interesting
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post #247 of 391
7/29/08 at 8:38pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

I started watching the Region 4 discs and found that I still love the show. It is an interesting mix of cloak and dagger and sci-fi themes. One of the sci-fi shows was even an Outer Limits type show.

As for the two tv movies after the pilot, I enjoyed them even with the added footage. The one laughable one was in Wine, Women and War. At the beginning, Steve Austin is swimming out to the submarine and chased by a patrol boat. The patrol boat is a pt boat with the number 73 on it. I guess Quinton McHale was chasing him. Haven't seen anything like that since a destructive underwater device on Wonder Woman turned out to be stock footage of the Seaview from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
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post #248 of 391
8/2/08 at 5:00pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Willis
I think "Koch" Video is releasing the BW S3 season in Germany. I'm not 100% certain but it appears to be an official release liscenced from Universal Pictures Germany. If so, then I'd guess that an R2/4 S3 release would be coming as well. I would sure like to see both shows get S3 & 4 (for 6M$M) releases in the UK & Australia soon. So far there's not word about a German 6M$M S3 release.

Still nothing up at the usual UK sites for S3 news & nothing at ezdvd (Au).

However, things are looking better for possible continued R2/4 releases soon. Seems that Universal's Italian Co will be releasing S1-3's for both shows this fall. An overseas contact says that the cover art is already available for the Italian releases. There's no early word yet about possible English subtitles. Lee M & Lindsay were recently in Italy for appearances. Interesting


I hadn't heard that the Italian releases were committing beyond Season 2, that's great.

I have bad VHS copies of most of TBW Season 3, and DVDs of some of SMDM Season 3 (the earlier R2 anthology releases have five from there, and of course Welcome Home Jaime originated there and lives now in TBW S1). I've also got bad copies of The Return of the Bionic Woman and The Return of Bigfoot, and the first 2 pilots in the original edits. Beyond that, I haven't seen S3-5 of SMDM since I was a kid. I'm an "early years" fan mostly, but am also a completist that stayed with the show even in its twilight (I was all of 10 when it ended). I will get any and all releases until it's all there.

As to the extended pilots retaining some value, that's as may be. The original versions are tighter, with a consistent (if different from the later show) stylistic approach. They aren't the greatest thing since sliced bread, but they are better than their replacements. The two-hour versions serve one purpose: to sell as part of a package of one-hour installments into the broadcast syndication market. The Home Video market has no such requirements, and retaining the series and movies in their syndie form for HV is sheer inertia and cheapness.

Joe's release specs:

All inclusive collector's edition: Oscar Goldman's Bionic File, in the form of the famous "exploding briefcase". All movies and episodes presented in original air order, in original air form, with latter concurrent episodes of the 2 shows interleaved by airdate (See Airdates - The Bionic Wiki). Bonus features include alternate edits.

A separate 2-disc release of the two-part episodes "The Bionic Woman" and "The Return of the Bionic Woman" (perhaps also "Welcome Home, Jaime"), as an option for TBW fans. Not releasing them in air order in the UK has stalled the releases with a story gap: Jaime is dead, and we skip her resurrection since there is no Season 3 SMDM release. Since it is unlikely that any release would make Bionic Woman fans wait while the 73-5 releases were issued, the separate release of TBW's "pre-pilots" would allow for the story to be followed.

1973 Telefilms in original form as a separate 2-disc release. Sequel Telefilms in separate 2-disc release.

Three episodes moved for syndication are duplicated, so each set has a copy, with the original credits restored. Alternate credits introduced for syndication can be available by seamless branching. Complimentary episodes need not be duplicated (i.e.: Kill Oscar II is on both BW S2 and SMDM S4, but parts I and III remain exclusive to BW). Season One (SMDM) can include the syndicated pilot versions (some folks grew up with these, no need to bury them), but the original edits are a top priority.

Three two-hour episodes presented in original, rather than 2 part form. (Bionic Boy, The Thunderbird Connection and The Lost Island).

The Home Video market has its own needs, just as does syndication. Fans seeking nostagia seek to relive the "first time," not the reruns, and collectors want only authentic materials on the shelf. Home Video releases should reflect this, rather than a 30 year old set of decisions for a very different set of needs.

As Marcus on B5 once said: "If you're going to have delusions, you might as well go for the really satisfying ones." Can we get it in Blu-Ray? ;-)

Having said that, if it's on sale, I'm buying, and the only real deal-breaker is if they fail to fix the bad R2 SMDMs with a decent transfer (I've got the bad ones, thanks). I think we can expect that for R1 (sometime before 2023, the 50th anniversary), who knows, maybe even these new Italian releases.

"Time flies, but all I get is old."
-Lee Majors, "Gotta Get Loose"
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post #249 of 391
9/11/08 at 1:14pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

The Bionic Woman Season 3 DVD has a release date of November 27, 2008 for Region 2 in The Netherlands. A UK release should follow. At least it's finally coming to Europe. No mention of Season 3 of Six Million Dollar Man.

Bionic Woman S3 The Netherlands
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post #250 of 391
9/29/08 at 10:02am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

This is great news! Poor Steve, gave Jaime a Bionic leg up only to get left behind. At least we'll have Chris Williams ;-)

Andrew R, with regards to the Mexican SMDM release, have you had a chance to look at them? Are the transfers any better than R2? Are the telefilms indeed the original cuts?

Finally, does anyone know if you can get the Mexican release online? I'm embarrassed to admit that I'd make the long drive (with affirmatives to the questions above), but I'd rather not.
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post #251 of 391
11/2/08 at 3:40pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

Koch Media has announced a January 30, 2009 release date for "Die Sieben Millionen Dollar Frau." --> Koch Season 3 page
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post #252 of 391
11/2/08 at 5:59pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

The Bionic Woman: Season 3 comes out in France this week. There is confusion as to whether it will actually contain an original English audio track, as Amazon.fr indicates, since the previous seasons did not.

Super jaimie, saison 3: Lindsay Wagner, Richard Anderson: Amazon.fr: DVD
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post #253 of 391
11/7/08 at 8:00am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

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Originally Posted by MattHR
The Bionic Woman: Season 3 comes out in France this week. There is confusion as to whether it will actually contain an original English audio track, as Amazon.fr indicates, since the previous seasons did not.

Super jaimie, saison 3: Lindsay Wagner, Richard Anderson: Amazon.fr: DVD

Is there any word from anyone that the Season 3 DVD released in France does indeed have an English audio track? If not , does the Netherlands DVd release have one? I would like to order a copy of this set either from France, The Netherlands or Germany but want to make sure my copy has the English audio track . Also can anyone recommend a good site Netherlands site to order a DVD from besides DVD-HOME, Nederlandstalige DVD website met dé R2 Releaselijst van Nederlands ondertitelde DVD's en meer! or another France site besides Amazon.fr ? I would appreciate any help and information on this. I have a universal player so region is not a problem. I would just like to complete my Bionic Woman series.

Thanks!.
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post #254 of 391
11/7/08 at 8:35am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

As with Seasons 1 and 2, it's been confirmed that the French Season 3 set does NOT include any English option. However, the German release, set for January, WILL feature English audio, same as their Seasons 1 and 2 sets.
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post #255 of 391
11/7/08 at 9:28am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MattHR
As with Seasons 1 and 2, it's been confirmed that the French Season 3 set does NOT include any English option. However, the German release, set for January, WILL feature English audio, same as their Seasons 1 and 2 sets.


Thanks Matt for such a prompt reply. That's too bad about the French releases as I was already anticipating viewing it ... I was SO close to ordering it from Amazon based on their info that said it would have an English track ... oh well, so much for Super Jaimie (lol)...guess I will have to wait until January...I'm just glad this season is finally seeing some kind of release! Hurray!!

Now to just get the remaining $6 Million Dollar Man seasons out there!
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post #256 of 391
11/7/08 at 12:07pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

I'm hoping to hear an announcement for Season 3 from Australia and/or the UK soon. I much prefer their slim cases to the gawd-awful designs of the German digipaks.
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post #257 of 391
11/7/08 at 4:45pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

This is standard practise in France - either remove the original English track altogether or if it is left intact then put French subtitles over it as much as possible.

I know this is a generalisation and a bit of stereotyping, but the French absolutely hate the rise of English as an "international" language (it has largely displaced French) and do everything possible to discourage it's use within France.

The same is not true in Germany (or indeed, most other European countries), where sensibly, original soundtracks are left unmolested.

The viewer can, therefore, choose to listen to a subtitle-free original English track, or turn the (say) German subtitles on, or listen to a German dub.
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post #258 of 391
11/9/08 at 3:42pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebiroth
This is standard practise in France - either remove the original English track altogether or if it is left intact then put French subtitles over it as much as possible.

Hello Nebiroth,

I am not sure why you are saying that in France, DVDs mostly come out with no original English audio.

I live in Quebec, Canada and I assure you that many many French Canadian customers buy their american favorite TV series in France (using amazon.fr and such) because North American DVD releases of those same TV series do not have French dub on it. And I can assure you that almost every major tiltles have original English and French dub in region 2. There is this only small exeption for both Bionic Woman and 6 M$ Man DVDs. There is something specific to Universal in France that evicted the original English track for the bionic DVDs. I know that's stupid and frankly, most TV fans would have been happy to have English and French available on the Bionic Womans season 1 & 2 and ? Million Dollar Man 1 & 2.
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post #259 of 391
11/10/08 at 6:10am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

The issue is not that the original English audio is not available, it is that it will very often come with French subtitles that you can't switch off.

The options will be - a French dub audio track with French titles that you can turn on or off, or the original English track with French subtitles that you have no choice but to have active.

It's pretty unusual to have the option to watch the shows without there being French in there somewhere

Of course this case is even more extreme, in that they've have actually removed the original English completely.
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post #260 of 391
11/26/08 at 6:57pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

any news yet for a British or Australian release of season 3 of Bionic Woman?
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post #261 of 391
11/30/08 at 10:44pm

Italy

It seems that SMDM's Season 3 is getting released in Italy on December 18th. No info about audio for this that I can find, but some comments here regarding Season 1 indicate Italy has gotten English tracks in prior releases.
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post #262 of 391
1/2/09 at 4:26pm
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Overseas sources say that both Italian S3's of 6M$M & BW have English audio tracks. It looks like they're showing a release date of 01/23/09 . There are a couple of Italian online stores with English pages. Here's one with the link to the Bionic Woman S3 here

Another Italian site with partial English pages (BW S3 linK) is here

6M$M S3 set info is that it won't include the "Secret of Bigfoot" episode that was originally aired in the US in S3. That's one of the "crossover" episodes where Lindsay has a small role.

I have to figure that UK and/or Australian S3 releases are coming. I'm going to wait until the summer to see if that happens before looking at these.

If I'm reading the Euro currency amount right, it comes to about $44.00 US not including shipping.
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post #263 of 391
1/4/09 at 10:22am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

The german release "Die sieben Millionen Dollar Frau" of Bionic Woman season 3 is set for January 30 and DOES include an English audio track. I have ordered this thru Amazon.de:

Die sieben Millionen Dollar Frau - Staffel 3: Lindsay Wagner, Richard Anderson, Martin E. Brooks, Barry Crane: Amazon.de: DVD & Blu-ray

The price when converted from EURO works out to about 38.95 US with shipping being extra. I ordered my copy thru them so am looking forward to finally getting the final season of Bionic Woman. Now just to complete the Six Million Dollar Man series on DVD!
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post #264 of 391
1/4/09 at 10:54am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

If this has not been released in England by this summer, I may order it then.
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post #265 of 391
1/4/09 at 10:56am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

How much is shipping?
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post #266 of 391
1/4/09 at 11:21am

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

For the Amazon.de German release, shipping to Canada was 14.00 EURO or about $19 US. I know thats pretty high but this is one series that I never thought would get released anywhere on DVD and The Bionic Woman is my number 2 favorite show of all time. I am thrilled that I will finally have the complete series with the exception of the Bigfoot saga and Return Of Bionic Woman which I would also very much like to get if it ever makes release with $6 Million Dollar Man.
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post #267 of 391
1/4/09 at 12:44pm
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Todd,

Thanks for the German link. BW is also one of my favorites and having met Lindsay a couple of years ago makes it a special series to collect so it's a must-buy for me.

Interesting cover choice for the German S3 set. That photo looks like it was one of Lindsay's earlier publicity photos but my memory's not "Bionic"

I'm leaning toward Willard's choice of trying to wait for an R2/4 release. One thing is a concern about some of the overseas releases not from the UK or Australia is that some have been saying that the French releases have forced French subtitles when selecting an alternate language track. I'm interested in reviews of the German release.

Todd, if you get a chance can you post some information about your S3 set when you receive it? It would be appreciated.
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post #268 of 391
1/4/09 at 1:27pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

Jeff,
Absolutely. As soon as my set arrives I will post info on here regarding the set. I also agree with you about the cover choice for Germany's season 3 release...your memory IS correct in that it is an older picture taken back from when her first season came out (a variation of this shot was featured on the cover of an old movie magazine in 1976 called Rona Barrett's Gossip that I actually have). Its interesting just seeing the differences in cover choices among the European countries that have released season sets so far..if you check Germany's Season 1 & 2 sets, you will notice that the 1st season set
see: Die sieben Millionen Dollar Frau - Staffel 1: Lindsay Wagner, Richard Anderson, Lee Majors, Martin E. Brooks, Jack Arnold, Alan J. Levi, Alan Crosland: Amazon.de: DVD & Blu-ray

has a cover picture from the 2nd season 1st part of "Jaime's Shield".

The 2nd season German release

see: Die sieben Millionen Dollar Frau - Staffel 2: Lindsay Wagner, Richard Anderson, Lee Majors, Jack Arnold, Alan J. Levi, Alan Crosland: Amazon.de: DVD & Blu-ray

has a beautiful picture of Lindsay only this one was taken from a People cover shot she did when Scruples was released a few years after Bionic Woman.

Personally I really like the French 3rd season cover choice that has a close up of Jaime running that is actually taken from the 3rd Season two part "Bionic Dog" eps,

see:Super jaimie, saison 3: Lindsay Wagner, Richard Anderson: Amazon.fr: DVD

but unfortunately, their set does not have an English track on it otherwise I would have went with it.

That is so cool that you actually got to meet Lindsay a few years back...I would still like to have that honor some day. I have two good friends that have both met her and luckily one of them was able to get me a personalized autographed picture from her (the next best thing to actually meeting her i guess!) I have been a fan of hers since the very first time I watched the original airing of "The Bionic Woman" Part 1 on SMDM.
I am hoping that perhaps down the road all 3 Bionic Reunion movies will also get official DVD releases over in Europe. But I guess first we need to see SMDM finish up its run!
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post #269 of 391
1/9/09 at 8:15pm
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Todd,

Thanks for the info on the overseas releases. Meeting Lindsay in LA Oct '06 was a real treat for me. I was able to spend a little time talking with her about Montana where my relatives live and since LW owned a 2nd home close to our relatives' town where our family visited during our summer vacations, it was fun to converse with her about that area of the state. Her home was located about 30 miles south of Missoula, MT in Stevensville.

She autographed several items, one of which was a 1979 Montana map that I brought with me to LA. She signed it at the location of her home. She also signed a couple of photo collections, one of which contained 14 screencaps from S1 of Bionic Woman, my favorite season of the series.

She also signed my DVD cover of her Hallmark-TV movie "Thicker Than Water" ('05). I imagine that you own that DVD but if not, it's a remastered anamorphic release of the film and the DVD transfer quality is outstanding. I originally viewed the movie on my 36" 4:3 Sony Wega TV but have recently re-watched the film on DVD on my HD Plasma set. Wow What a difference. The R2/4 S1 & S2 sets look great as well, upconverted from my Region-Free player.

I may buy that German S3 release instead of waiting for the R2/4's, assuming that they will be released in those regions. When you can confirm the English Audio, let us know. It is much appreciated in advance.
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post #270 of 391
1/9/09 at 9:07pm

Re: 6M$M and Bionic Woman Region 2 release 09/26/05?

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Originally Posted by cherisland
The german release "Die sieben Millionen Dollar Frau" of Bionic Woman season 3 is set for January 30 and DOES include an English audio track. I have ordered this thru Amazon.de:

Die sieben Millionen Dollar Frau - Staffel 3: Lindsay Wagner, Richard Anderson, Martin E. Brooks, Barry Crane: Amazon.de: DVD & Blu-ray

The price when converted from EURO works out to about 38.95 US with shipping being extra. I ordered my copy thru them so am looking forward to finally getting the final season of Bionic Woman. Now just to complete the Six Million Dollar Man series on DVD!

Hey, they've also got a listing for The Fall Guy Season 2. No fair! I bet it won't get released in the US.

Were the other seasons of Bionic Woman released in Germany first and then UK/ Australia? If not, I hope this isn't a bad sign for a region 2 release.
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