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post #31 of 159
9/27/05 at 3:47pm
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Obviously I have hit an exposed nerve. My comment about burning at 16x had nothing to do with with OS. It is just being learned that burning discs at that high a speed tends to not produce reliable discs in the long run. Also, the settings may be set for 16x but a lot of machines don't have the processing power to actually burn at that speed. If you don't burn a FULL DVD in about 3:10, it's not 16x, no matter what settings you use.

As far as my hardware destiny goes, my current Mac is 5 years old. In that time I have... upped all the memory, swapped the DVD-ROM for a Pioneer Superdrive, swapped out the video card, twice, added a USB2 card, added numerous hard drives, swapped out the processor & added better audio. None of this was sourced from Apple. Basically, about all the Apple stuff left is the housing and the OS, which is why I use a Mac in the first place. My hardware destiny is hardly determined by anyone but myself. My comment was merely in regards to the fact that Windows has numerous operating systems available simultaneously, all with different capabilities, hardware comes from MANY different sources, and the way they interact is not always all that predictable. I am more than willing to accept a very small limitation on hardware for reliability. When I plug something new in, it works. with no hassles. Always has.


What was this thread about again?
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post #32 of 159
9/27/05 at 5:21pm
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What was this thread about again?


Sorry. But the way you phrased your statement sounded like a gratuitous slam on those who have Windows PCs.

Your Mac is 5 years old? I take it you're not running OS-X

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My comment was merely in regards to the fact that Windows has numerous operating systems available simultaneously, all with different capabilities, hardware comes from MANY different sources, and the way they interact is not always all that predictable.


Which is what a lot of the Macintosh owners who slam Microsoft don't take into account for. When designing an OS it's almost impossible to account for every possible configuration without some kind of bug or problem slipping through. At least you're aware of this and thank you for your honesty. I think the Macs are fine machines, I just prefer the Windows interface & application selection.

I think his NEC burner should be replaced with a Plextor or a Sony.
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post #33 of 159
9/27/05 at 5:36pm
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Yes, I am running 10.3. Moving to 10.4 in a few days. My previous Mac, which is 12 years old now won't run OSX as far as I know, but I don't use it anymore. Also, there's a word for people who deride others for doing something and then do it repeatedly themselves.

I'm sure Plextor makes fine drives. They should be, as much as they cost. I have 2 Pioneers (106D & 109) and they have been real troopers. Not a single problem, despite my choice of an addled, bug riddled operating system.




Why don't we get back to just posting dual layer media deals...

The 25 pack Memorex is currently down to $50 at buy.com
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post #34 of 159
9/27/05 at 5:50pm
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Also, there's a word for people who deride others for doing something and then do it repeatedly themselves.


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I hope i didn't do something that could be interpreted that way. I was thinking more that OS-X runs a lot better on newer (G4/G5) machines. Is yours a G4?

Pioneer are good burners. Prices have come down on the Plextors. They are pricey because they are built to last, quiet and reliable. Firmware updates are timely.


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despite my choice of an addled, bug riddled operating system.


I thought you weren't running Windows

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The 25 pack Memorex is currently down to $50 at buy.com


I still don't trust them. Anyone actually have the media and confirm the ATIP info says "Ritek"?
How about TDK's or Fuji?
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post #35 of 159
9/27/05 at 6:12pm
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I have 40 Memorex DVD+R DL and every one of them is Ritek. the only others I have are Verbatim branded and are Mistubishi manufacture.


My computer is a G4. Originally a 400 MHz, but I'm about to put in a 1.4 Ghz processor. After a great deal of research, it was quite apparent it gives the fastest performance with this machine. You can get processors up to 2 GHz, but they are actually slower on most tasks.
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post #36 of 159
10/8/05 at 8:38pm
FYI: CompUSA has a 1-day special on Sunday (Oct. 9) from 8 a.m to 8 p.m.:

25 DL-DVD+R for $29.99. They didn't list manufacturer in the ad.
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post #37 of 159
10/8/05 at 9:17pm
If you can't find that Compusa deal, Newegg has RiDATA 8.5GB 2.4X DVD+R DL Disc 25 pack for $49.99 with free shipping this weekend.

sale link
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post #38 of 159
10/8/05 at 10:17pm
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Notice the combo deal on that Newegg link. Get an additional 5 DL media and 1 RW for the same price. At least that seems to be what it is saying.
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post #39 of 159
10/9/05 at 6:30am
The CompUSA deal (25 for $29.99) is Memorex DVD+R DL 2.4X, which cooled me on the deal, so I didn't pick any up this morning.
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post #40 of 159
10/9/05 at 7:59am
Is Memorex no good?
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post #41 of 159
10/9/05 at 12:06pm
It depends on your DVD burner drive, some drives create nice coasters with the Memorex DL's, while other drives are okay. I'll hold out for deals on Verbatims and Ritek/RiData for now.
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post #42 of 159
10/9/05 at 1:50pm
I bought a 25-pack of Memorex discs (made by Ritek) and had the first 4 fail while burning. I upgraded the firmware on my drive and the rest worked after that, but when I thought the problem was with the discs I went to Memorex's website and told them that their discs didn't seem to be working. I got a response back that they would send me a replacement pack to prove that not all of their discs are bad, but it never came. A couple months later I replied to the email asking them to please not tell me that they were going to send me something then not send it, but never got a response back, so I think I'll avoid Memowrecks from now on.
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post #43 of 159
10/9/05 at 5:24pm
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I'll hold out for deals on Verbatims and Ritek/RiData for now.
This is all very strange. Of course, all the Memorex DL media I have bought have been Ritek, as I confirmed myself. So, if there were some problem in the media/burner area, I wouldn't think buying Ritek branded media would be any different. On the other hand, I recently bought a 25 pack of Memorex media and a whopping 7 of them turned out to be defective in a way I have never seen before. They simply said they cannot be written to, though they are blank. I submitted a replacement request and quickly got a response that they would be replaced. Now, Jesse's post makes me pretty suspicious. FWIW, I have bought 3 three packs, which come in jewel boxes instead of a spindle, and they have all been fine.

I know I have used Memorex single layer media in the past with no problem, but I am thinking there really is something to all the complaints about them.
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post #44 of 159
10/9/05 at 6:23pm
If you read the reviews on Newegg for the different brands (keeping in mind the user's stated burner drive), the good stuff gets praised, while the not-so-good stuff get slagged. The Memorex stuff is hit-or-miss.
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post #45 of 159
10/30/05 at 8:22am
A few deals worth checking out (better if you buy in bulk, of course):

http://www.meritline.com/dvd-r-doubl...dplusr-dl.html
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post #46 of 159
10/30/05 at 10:18am
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Thanks for the link. I hadn't checked Meritline for some time. They especially have a nice price for Ritek printable DL media.

FWIW, regarding Memorex media, I had bought 9 of theirs in 3 packs with jewel boxes without a problem. Then I got a 25 spindle several weeks ago when buy.com had that great deal. Well, I am getting about a 70% defective rate. In fact, 7 of them wouldn't even write. They either showed up as an unwritable disc or didn't show up at all. This is with a Pioneer 109 with v 1.5.7 firmware, which has never given me a problem oitherwise. I get the feeling the media they sell in spindles is a lower grade than what they sell in jewel boxes. I just submitted my third warranty replacement claim to Memorex. Each time they have said they will sennd replacements, but none has arrived yet.
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post #47 of 159
10/31/05 at 7:34am
Verbatim DVD+R DL 10 for $19.99 at Micro Center
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post #48 of 159
11/6/05 at 4:23am
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This week Office Max has 10 packs of Verbatim DL media for $19.99. Looks like prices are finally coming down a bit.
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post #49 of 159
11/7/05 at 11:06am
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I just picked up 2 packs of Verbatim at Office Max. With a $10 off card, that makes $30 for 20 discs. They're finally reaching a manageable price.
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post #50 of 159
12/2/05 at 8:11pm
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What do you know? Today I received (3) three packs of Memorex DL media in the mail. That is actually only half of what they owe me from a 25 pack spindle that had something like 15 defectives, but I submitted them in two batches a few weeks apart. Haven't tried any, but from previous experience, the 3 packs in jewel cases seems to be OK.
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post #51 of 159
12/11/05 at 7:27am
Same deal as posted above from October:

NewEgg: RiDATA 8.5GB 2.4X DVD+R DL 25 Pack Cake Box Disc
$29.99 + $4.00 shipping


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817132394

-Gary
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post #52 of 159
12/13/05 at 3:37pm
That item is actually $39.99 not $29.99... unless I'm reading it wrong?
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post #53 of 159
12/13/05 at 3:46pm
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It was $29. They have a lot of 2 days sales, so it is probably just over.
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post #54 of 159
1/1/06 at 12:18pm
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Office Max has Verbatim 10 pack spindles for $20 again this week.
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post #55 of 159
1/1/06 at 1:32pm
Thanks for the tip.... Best Buy also has a sale on Memorex DL discs as well, the same price as the Verbatims I think, but I think the Verbatim's are better discs right?
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post #56 of 159
1/1/06 at 4:09pm
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Well, I had horrible problems with a spindle of Memorex DLs I bought, and others seem to have had trouble with their discs as well. The Memroex DLs I have gotten in jewel boxes have been OK. I guess it's up to you.
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post #57 of 159
1/1/06 at 5:11pm
Hey John,

Thanks for the heads up on Office Max's sale this week.

I've used Memorex DL blanks and it has definitely been hit and miss with them, usually more miss than hit. I have had a few duds with Verbatim, but nowhere near as much (knock wood).
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post #58 of 159
1/1/06 at 10:43pm
Heh. I was just in Office Max on Friday and looked at the DL spindles thinking I should have bought another pack or two while they were so cheap.

First thing in the morning...!

-paul
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post #59 of 159
1/3/06 at 3:47pm
Anyone have any tips for improving burning speed on my PC? A DL disc usually takes an hour to burn, and a single layer about 30 min. I have a 2.4ghz with 512mb memory and XP. Someone on a video site said something about cleaning up the registry but I dont know anything about that.
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post #60 of 159
1/3/06 at 4:17pm
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I can't help with the Windows stuff, but there are several areas your problem may be coming from. First, you give no information about the stuff that really matters, like the burner and software. First, 512 MB of memory is rather minimal. You might look into doubling it if not more. You'll get benefits in everything you do. You are getting a burn speed of basically 2x. This is the max with some DL media such as the ones manufactured by Ritek (also sold as Memorex and some others) so there is nothing to do with that media. With the proper hardware and software you should be able to get burn speeds around 8x, or about 7 min for a single layer disc, though the fastest DL media currently available is 6x. I would look into what other things you might be doing while you burn, the drive and media you are using (shouldn't be so much of a factor on SL media) and your software.
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