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post #91 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

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Originally Posted by Mike LoMonaco
Any word on a re-release (remastered, multi-channel audio, etc.) of Pelham?
No word!




Crawdaddy
post #92 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

This is one of my classic favorites. I have the DVD, and it has been
so long since I last saw it, I didn't even know it wasn't anamorphic.

Basically, if the studio was going to cash in on a remastered release
of the original "Pelham" then most likely they would have already
announced it to coincide with the new theatrical release rather than wait
for the new film to be released on DVD/BD (thus confusing everyone with
two different versions). Did I kind of make that clear?

I am going to be out at Fox in two weeks and I'll bring up the issue
of Pelham, not that I think it's going to make much of a difference if
it wasn't already planned.
post #93 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
No word!




Crawdaddy

Thanks, 'Daddy.

What Ronald said made sense I suppose, regarding the wait for a re-release with the remake on the way, etc. but I've seen last-minute releases of remastered titles just before a theatrical launch of a remake. It would definitely be cool to get Pelham on Blu-ray though!
post #94 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Mike,

The new film is released next week.

There has been no announcement by MGM about the original.

This sort of tells me that the studio missed the window of opportunity.
There is a slight chance chance MGM could wait until the theatrical
comes to DVD/BD at year's end, but generally it's not done that way.

It's anybody's guess but I am not optimistic. It's very strange that
MGM did not capitalize on this advantage they had before them.
post #95 of 160
Thread Starter 

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

It's also possible that they'll wait a number of weeks for any re-release. That way, people have seen the title in ads, on marquees, etc. Then they see the re-release of the 74 title in stores and grab it on impulse.

As Ronald said, it's anybody's guess at this point.

Harry
post #96 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Mike,

The new film is released next week.

There has been no announcement by MGM about the original.

This sort of tells me that the studio missed the window of opportunity.

A shame, too. For the only possible positive thing to be said for the existence of this new SECOND remake would have been to at least get a great DVD/BD of the original.

As you've said, it's not generally done but perhaps they'll prepare it when this new version goes to disc.
post #97 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

MGM pulled a stunt with "Invasion of the Body Snatchers", re-releasing the original letterboxed DVD with War of the Worlds-type artwork when the Spielberg version came out, as an obvious cash-in only to re-re-release the film again as a special edition about 6 months later to tie that release into "Invasion", the Nicole Kidman remake. Hopefully, if the Pelham movie is anywhere near a hit MGM will reconsider putting out a proper upgrade of this terrific film. I don't need a three-disc ultimate edition, just remaster the transfer and include the trailer. Oh, and please keep as much of the original artwork as you can. Thanks
post #98 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Boy, I would love a BR release of this movie. Just discovered it this year, and while I loved the movie, the non-anamorphic picture on my 40" TV killed me. I was really hoping for a "Day the Earth Stood Still"-type BR tie-in. It's not too late, MGM!
post #99 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Okay, so I have communicated with someone over at MGM who
basically told me that the June 9th release is a "repackaging."
The person I was conversing with was not aware of plans for
a remastered or BD version, but will further check with marketing.

That's about the best I can do for you. It's not good news, I know.
post #100 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Thanks a lot, Ronald...indeed, not good news for Pelham fans...

If this is so, that a remastered version isn't in the works for at least a launch for the remake, would it make sense and just cave to buy this repackaged version of the old transfer?
post #101 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

If you have Comcast, the movie is available "On Demand" in the FREE movies section in HD and WIDESCREEN!!

It is available until 7/31 to view.
post #102 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

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Originally Posted by Doug:Li
If you have Comcast, the movie is available "On Demand" in the FREE movies section in HD and WIDESCREEN!!

It is available until 7/31 to view.

Thanks Doug,

Unfortunately, I don't have Comcast, but I really want the title for my DVD collection...

Thanks for the info, though!
post #103 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Any other word on this title as the remake inches closer?
post #104 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Mike,

I'll ask about it again when I go to the studio shortly. However, it
looks fairly obvious that there is no remaster planned.
post #105 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

(Howdy, Ron!)

Spun the 1974 pic last night (interestingly, I got the June 9 DVD--strangely not listed on DVD Empire--from Netflix yesterday; the design copyright year on the DVD is 2009; frustratingly non-anamo) and thoroughly enjoyed it.

I'm a fan of both Denzel and Tony (he's just as talented of a shooter in his own right as bro Ridley and less pretentious) and can't wait to see their take on this. Lots of cinematic intertextuality going on with D being cast in the remake--John Q/Dog Day Afternoon, Inside Man/Marathon Man and The Siege all came to mind while watching.

Will be very interesting to see what Tony--who had an anti-Semitic moment in The Fan--will do with the mayoral shtick.

"Gesundheit."
post #106 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

P.S. - "Hilarious"/painful to see a cast credit for "The Homosexual." Which guy was that??
post #107 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

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Originally Posted by Paul.S
I'm a fan of both Denzel and Tony (he's just as talented of a shooter in his own right as bro Ridley and less pretentious)

Is that a joke?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul.S
Lots of cinematic intertextuality going on with D being cast in the remake ......... Inside Man/Marathon Man [/i]

Apart from the fact that they both have the word "Man" in the title I can't see any connection or "intertextuality" between these two movies. Totally different in every respect.
post #108 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Re "Is that a joke?"

Ahh, yes--it doesn't surprise me that that parenthetical draws a response (likely from a Ridley partisan). No, to answer your (mildly condescending) question, I'm not joking. Neither should either of us be interested in having an off-topic argument (which I think is where this would head based on your tone) in a thread with Ron and Crawdaddy present!

Re "Apart from the fact that they both have the word "Man" in the title I can't see any connection or "intertextuality" between these two movies. Totally different in every respect."

I disagree but am disinclined to argue my perspective if you already feel they are "totally different." I was reminded of the debt/homage to Dog Day Afternoon that Nick Cassavetes acknowledges in his John Q commentary. Similarly for me, IM's storyline is broadly informed by MM. Both are New York-set thrillers that involve ill-gotten gains (diamonds) and retribution against a Nazi war criminal. IIRC Spike even mentions MM on his IM commentary.

Perhaps my punctuation was misleading, but the more important point was less what I and other critics see those two films broadly having in common with each other than what came to mind about both while watching Pelham: they, too, are either set in or have a flavor of 1970s New York, its ethnicities and tensions. In the case of IM, a hostage crisis is involved wherein the perps' initial intentions are for no one to get hurt despite their disingenuous threats to the contrary. I like Todd McCarthy's comment in his IM review and find it relevant (but not as applicable) WRT Sargent's work on Pelham: ". . . the substance of the film consists as much in its texture and details as its plot."
post #109 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Mike,

I'll ask about it again when I go to the studio shortly. However, it
looks fairly obvious that there is no remaster planned.

Thanks Ron.

When is the repackaged version supposed to street? I suppose I'll just pick that one up...I'll check Amazon too...
post #110 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Per Ron's post 99, the repackage is skedded for June 9. But, per my post 105, I received it via Nf yesterday and DVD Empire (nor Amazon) currently shows the June 9 re-release.
post #111 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

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Originally Posted by Mike LoMonaco
If this is so, that a remastered version isn't in the works for at least a launch for the remake, would it make sense and just cave to buy this repackaged version of the old transfer?

And FWIW I think the answer to this is "no": I suggest waiting to see what MGM-via-Fox does when SPHE releases Tony's version likely around T-giving.
post #112 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Thanks a million, Paul -- I think I will indeed wait for the remake to come out on home video and then see what Fox has up their sleeve for the original. Good point.
post #113 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Mike,

I don't think they have anything up their sleeve.

Why release a repackaged this week and then a remaster in
5 months?
post #114 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

MGM has done it before, as I previously stated. When Invasion (the Nicole Kidman remake) was released theatrically, MGM re-released the same grungy DVD of "Body Snatchers" (with cover art resembling Spielberg's War of the Worlds) only to announce an SE of the '78 film. So, yeah, I'm thinking when Scott's remake hits DVD later this year we may yet see an SE of the original, especially if it's a hit. On another subject, anyone else notice how Fox dropped the "anamorphic" label from the aspect ratio box on the specs grid? I think they've done that so as to be able to re-release old transfers in "re-packagings" and trick people into thinking its a new remaster.
post #115 of 160
Thread Starter 

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Consider also that they might include the '74 film as bonus material on a future release of the current film. That's not unheard of...

Harry
post #116 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luisito34
. . . I'm thinking when Scott's remake hits DVD later this year we may yet see an SE of the original, especially if it's a hit.
Yup.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luisito34
On another subject, anyone else notice how Fox dropped the "anamorphic" label from the aspect ratio box on the specs grid? I think they've done that so as to be able to re-release old transfers in "re-packagings" and trick people into thinking its a new remaster.
Are you talking about Pelham in particular or Fox repackagings in general? (If the latter, which ones?)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry-N
Consider also that they might include the '74 film as bonus material on a future release of the current film. That's not unheard of...
That would require more studio cooperation than we typically see. In order for that to happen, MGM would likely have to forgo having their own SKU on shelves and instead enter a royalties agreement with Sony. Seems very unlikely to me.
post #117 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Mike,

I don't think they have anything up their sleeve.

Why release a repackaged this week and then a remaster in
5 months?

I'm just going by what Paul suggested, that perhaps when the REMAKE hits home video, that's when the remastered "special edition" will street, as well...
post #118 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luisito34
MGM has done it before, as I previously stated. When Invasion (the Nicole Kidman remake) was released theatrically, MGM re-released the same grungy DVD of "Body Snatchers" (with cover art resembling Spielberg's War of the Worlds) only to announce an SE of the '78 film. So, yeah, I'm thinking when Scott's remake hits DVD later this year we may yet see an SE of the original, especially if it's a hit. On another subject, anyone else notice how Fox dropped the "anamorphic" label from the aspect ratio box on the specs grid? I think they've done that so as to be able to re-release old transfers in "re-packagings" and trick people into thinking its a new remaster.

Interesting, Luisito; this reiterates what Paul was saying may happen with the release of the remake. Perhaps fans who don't own a copy of the original should indeed wait it out until November...
post #119 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

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Originally Posted by Harry-N
Consider also that they might include the '74 film as bonus material on a future release of the current film. That's not unheard of...

Harry

Kind of what they did with Day the Earth Stood Still you mean?
post #120 of 160

Re: The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3, anamorphic?

We're off to a good start - The New York Daily News has given 'Pelham' four stars. I usually trust their opinion. Note to MGM: We don't need a 3-disc Ultimate Edition - just remaster the film a little bit and include the trailer. Most of us will be happy.
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