Tobey Maguire - vegetarian...

Personal preference. No more, no less.

As Matt said. There is no connection between smoking and eating meat. Not all vegetarians are that way for health only. There are religious reasons, moral convictions, etc..., etc...

The cigarettes used in movies (and also in live theater) are herbal, not tobacco. Actors routinely complain about how vile they taste.

M.

Slightly off-topic, but Natalie Portman has similar "beliefs" (not sure that is the most accurate term). She has stated in various interviews that she is a vegetarian but has smoked in "Closer".

almost everyone in hollywood smokes, and the "herbals" aren't as prevalent as people say. Also, most vegetarians I've met smoke as well.

It's just one of those weird things. I dunno.

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Smoking cigarettes doesn't require killing any innoccent animals... they're hardly comparable.

How do you know the animals are innocent? I personally only eat hamburgers ground from cows executed for their crimes.

(sorry for the bad joke, but this discussion sounds like its going to turn into a shouting fest)

Benson - that was great. LMAO

My brother is a sort of vegetarian. He'll eat chicken occassionally, but doest eat any other sort of meat. He also smokes.

In his opinion the air, current condition of water,chemicals & hormones in food,etc - are just as bad as cigarettes.

BTW, I smoked for years, but was also very active. I had physical jobs and spent 3 hours in the gym 4 nights a week.I jogged,played sports. All while I smoked a pack a day.

I never felt the affects of smoking until I got a desk job, and realized I had to quit.


"I mean, turn away a nasty hot dog just for the health of it, only to suck down something known to cause cancer"

I know 2 people who died of cancer at a young age who never smoked in their life. Cancer is pretty much a epidemic now and its nots all because of smoking so I tend to agree with my brother.

My G/F shops at a place with a lot of organic foods and Ive been trying to do the same more lately as well.

Benson, how can you be sure the cows weren't falsely executed? If modern DNA evidence clears a bovine I've already noshed on... well, it's too disturbing to contemplate.


(Okay, I apologize for the poor taste... no bun, er, pun intended.)

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Jeez, some people take things in life too seriously.

As a (sadly) trained nucleat engineer, I learned that you get more nicotine as a smoker per year than you could working closely around a (well shielded) nuclear power plant. And, as it's taken inside the skin (one of your best shields), it goes directly to your cells.

In short, think of cancer of "winning the lottery". You get "tickets" from the sun, radiated energy from the ground, etc. You can get cancer with even a few tickets. Smoking simply buys you a LOT of tickets.

No moral judgement here. Like eating meat (which I LOVE), it's a personal preference. Unlike eating meat, there is no such thing as second hand meat consumption. But I know a few smokers who are quite conscientious of others.

So...life is tough.

Wear a cup,
Chuck

His opinion is wrong, and comes across as a lame rationalization for smoking.

Smoking only kills innocent non-smokers via second hand smoke.

That much I agree with. Thread moved.

M.

I find that interesting. I didn't know you could get any nicotine from a nuclear power plant.

There is no scientific evidence that even one person has ever been killed from second hand smoke.

Watch the first season of Penn and Teller's Bullshit.

Oops. I didn't reread that clearly. Nicotine is a carcinogen, and gives off radiation. You get orders of magnitude higher from smoking, directly to your innards, than you would doing 99% of the work at a power plant. The other 1%...well that's different

Sorry about that,
Chuck

Sorry, but I can't let that one stand.
Would you include a child that dies from asthma when his parents are both smokers?
Please don't rely solely on illusionists for your science and health information.
http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/10_18.htm

It is difficult to 'prove' a causative link, but clearly there are dangerous chemicals in smoke that are better avoided than inhaled.

I think you are confusing carcinogens and sources of radiation. Nicotine is a chemical, not a radioactive substance.

Who's Tobey Maguire and why is he smoking radioactive cigarettes?

Wowsers... no it doesn't .

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i have friend who's a psuedo-vegetarian and she smokes. i say psuedo because she doesn't eat anything with "fur or feathers." all the sea creatures though are free game. she doesn't eat meat because she saw a faces of death video at a young age and it scarred her for life apparently. her story. the point is, not all vegetarians are vegetarians for health reason. if that were the case, my friend would have more health concerns over the amount of beer she ingests rather than the red meat she doesn't.

kevin t

No matter how you spin it, smoking is bad and everyone knows it. No outside influence, be it the bad condition of the environment or a nuclear power plant, is going to change that. Second hand smoke is real, but the true effects could be argued one way or the other.

As a side note, I know a guy who became vegan for the moral reasons, then realized he wasn't making an impact and went back to eating meat. He's been a happier person ever since.

Sorry, Chuck. I was just being a snot and yanking your chain. But thanks for clarifying. I assumed you were talking about equivalent cancer risk, not radiation. I've heard it said that tobacco is often radioactive because of its ability to leach heavy metals out of the soil. (In fact, I've read articles about how growing tobacco could be used to help clean up a heavy metal contamination site.) Could the tobacco itself, and not the nicotine specifically, be what you're referring to with regard to radioactivity?

I know someone who complains about hormones and antibiotics in dairy products, but she'll bring home organic milk and cigarettes when she goes to the grocery store.

I think we're all like this to some degree, and at different times in our lives. I confess that I occasionally indulge in the things I avoid for health reasons, like donuts, chips, and chocolate. And pie. Oh, and ice cream. Don't forget ice cream. And pizza. I love pizza. And waffles, especially with lots of butter and syrup, with sausage and bacon on the side. Yeah, and I also avoid Twinkies, Ding Dongs, and Ho Ho's. Yep, there's a cupboard full of these things I've been avoiding just for health reasons. And here I sit, during a long weekend, thinking about all the things I'm avoiding, just to pretend that I'm enjoying my health more that I'd enjoy a delicious piece of cold, home-made strawberry pie, with vanilla ice cream on top, on a hot, hot Texas afternoon.

Wow, it's a good thing I don't smoke. I'd never quit!

Jeez, you guys, I was bein' facetious! I'm certainly NOT a vegetarian myself. I just thought the assumption that Tobey Maguire was a vegetarian for health reasons was a strange one. (Linda McCartney once commented on the same thing.)



I bet she buys American Spirit organic cigarettes, though, doesn't she? I know the type.

What really gets me is people I've known who call themselves vegetarians, but they'll eat fish and/or chicken. That's not what a vegetarian is.