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You can’t have him.


Says Ted Kramer (Dustin Hoffman) to his estranged wife (Meryl Streep) in Kramer vs. Kramer a movie that caused much discussion around the table at dinner parties back in the day. And there is plenty to recommend the movie, Hoffman and Streep but two, plus some very good cinematography. But in the end, Ted Kramer’s journey from work-obsessed father and husband to obsessed father has less depth than the novel of the same name.

Worth watching for the reasons above, but if the subject interests you, read the book.
post #422 of 501

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Here are my ratings for the AFI 10 best Epic movies:




Ben-Hur




Ten Commandments, The
Titanic



All Quiet on the Western Front
Gone With the Wind
Reds
Saving Private Ryan
Spartacus



Lawrence of Arabia
Schindler's List
post #423 of 501

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My ratings for the AFI top 10 Gangster movies:





Little Caesar
Public Enemy, The
Scarface




Bonnie and Clyde
Godfather, The
Scarface: The Shame of a Nation
White Heat




Godfather Part II, The
Goodfellas
Pulp Fiction
post #424 of 501

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My ratings for the AFI top 10 Mystery pictures:




Dial M For Murder
Laura
Usual Suspects, The




Blue Velvet
Maltese Falcon, The




Chinatown
North By Northwest
Rear Window
Third Man, The
Vertigo
post #425 of 501

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My ratings for the AFI top 10 Romantic Comidies:




Harold and Maude
Sleepless in Seattle
When Harry Met Sally…




Adam's Rib
Annie Hall
It Happened One Night
Moonstruck
Philadelphia Story, The
Roman Holiday




City Lights
post #426 of 501

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My ratings for the AFI top 10 Science Fiction movies:




Alien
Back to the Future
Terminator 2: Judgement Day




Clockwork Orange, A
Day the Earth Stood Still, The
E.T. - The Extra Terrestrial
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope




2001: A Space Odyssey
Blade Runner
post #427 of 501

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Do you like to gamble, Eddie? Gamble money on pool games?


Minnesota Fats (Jackie Gleason) asks of Fast Eddie Felson (Paul Newman) in The Hustler a brilliant view not really of pool, but of the makeup of a man, his character and the difference between winning and losing. Both Newman and Gleason are outstanding and Piper Laurie as the sort-of girlfriend and George C. Scott as the consummate, cold professional, living off the skills and weaknesses of others, make for a stellar supporting cast. All this coupled with cinematography that accentuates the down and out pool halls and rented rooms, resulting in a masterpiece.
post #428 of 501

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My ratings for the AFI top 10 Sports movies:




Caddyshack





Hoosiers
Jerry Maguire
National Velvet
Pride of the Yankees, The




Breaking Away
Bull Durham
Rocky




Hustler, The
Raging Bull
post #429 of 501

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If a man is fool enough to get into business with a woman, she ain't going to think much of him.


But of course John McCabe (Warren Beatty) funds a whorehouse for Mrs. Miller (Julie Christie) in McCabe & Mrs. Miller, Robert Altman’s take on the Western. All of the classic elements of the genre (albeit slightly skewed) are present and it is when McCabe finds his version of integrity that we know he is doomed. Altman shows us all of the characters, never telling us why they are who they are—in all their complexity and attempts to become more than they are.

Among Altman’s best—and also among Beatty and Christie’s finest as well.
post #430 of 501

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I'll buy the drinks when it's over.


A comment by an observer of a knock-down, drag-out fight between Thomas Dunson (John Wayne) and his sort-of son (Montgomery Cliff) in Howard Hawk’s Red River the story (on the surface) of a cattle drive that will establish Dunson as one of the most influential ranchers in Texas (helped by a healthy dose of cattle and land grabbing from the Mexicans). But we know early on that the real story is between father and son or friend and friend, as Hawks never lets the sweeping cattle drive across the plains really take over, but instead always returns the focus to the character study.

Walter Brennan plays the character that you would expect.
post #431 of 501

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My ratings for AFI’s top 10 Westerns:




Stagecoach




Searchers, The
High Noon
Unforgiven
Red River
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Cat Ballou




Shane
Wild Bunch, The
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
post #432 of 501

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This war has already lasted almost five years.


The Longest Day has a cast that ranges includes almost everyone that producer Darryl Zanuck could corral. Not too surprising for such a massive movie depicting the invasion of Normandy. And also not so surprising that Cornelius Ryan, the author of the book of the same name had plenty of help with the screenplay (at least four more writers got credits. And other movies have had more than one director: but three and with Zanuck helping!

Perhaps not so surprising that too many cooks spoiled this broth. In an attempt to show everything from the generals on both sides to crap games onboard ship and battles ranging from full scale beach assaults through behind the lines air drops to small unit cliff climbing designed to take out large gun emplacements, the movie probably had no chance at cohesion.

Fortunately Ike was a better planner than Zanuck.
post #433 of 501

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He hates these cans! Stay away from these cans!


Navin Johnson (Steve Martin) yells to his boss, believing that a madman is shooting at cans rather than himself in one of the funniest scenes in The Jerk. The Jerk ranges from outrageously (and outrageous) funny when it hits to painfully unfunny when it misses as Martin shows off his brand of physical humor and the writes show off their ability to make Johnson the simplest of simpletons—and one who actually is not saved by his own annoyance, but a rather clumsy deus ex-machina.

Worth watching for Martin and some of the gags—worth missing for those who want a movie as a whole (including slapstick) rather than a series of disjoined scenes.
post #434 of 501

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Just a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down



Disney just manages to avoid several spoonfuls in Mary Poppins unquestionably the best of his movies with real people. The music is excellent, Julie Andrews in the title role has just the right mix of steel and magic, while Dick Van Dyke is perhaps even better as the amiably, goofy Bert.

The story has been constructed out of whole cloth, perhaps necessary considering that the source, P. L. Travers loosely connected stories have no overarching narrative, but one can forgive some minor problems when a movie has such delights as the chimney sweeps dancing over the rooftops.
post #435 of 501
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The Hustler - 10 of 10
sports List

Quote:
in The Hustler a brilliant view not really of pool, but of the makeup of a man, his character and the difference between winning and losing.
last week, I spent about thirty minutes trying to write something akin to this, and it all came across as rather trite, Lew found a great way to say it though. A tremendous masterpiece in every respect.

The Thief of Bagdad - 7 of 10
Fantasy list

the main way this is superior to the Michael Powell version is Douglas Fairbanks' ebullient performance. Like Mary Pickford he took my breath away (this is the first I've seen of his iconic silent vehicles iirc) in his ability to own the screen. The effects are well done and interesting, the camera is often static and confined by the proscenium arch style of shooting (seems a bit old fashioned for 1924) but there is one interesting bit of camera movement when the nefarious asian lord/suitor arrives by boat seeking his treasure, the camera is on the boat as it floats into the dock. Raoul Walsh directed and I wonder if the staticness of the camera was necessitated by the many effects shots. If they were accomplished by successive exposure of the same negative that would go a long way to explaining the limitations and I think that's how much of this was accomplished--in camera. There is some patronizing moralizing bookends that open and close the film, I suppose to better excuse the carefree attitude of Fairbanks' thefts and chicanery in the first half of the picture. the picture is very long though, and often it was a chore to sit through, though it was generally rewarding with some new charm every ten or fifteen minutes. Anna May Wong is also quite good in a supporting role.

The Unknown - 8 of 10
stars list - Joan Crawford

This is technically a revisit, but I think I wasn't paying close attention, or dozed during parts of the film last time I saw it, I knew it hadn't gotten a fair shake so I gave it another go as I'm winding down the list to the last one or two and damned if it isn't an impressive, if occassionally silly (the climatic two horses act) display of filmmaking and acting, both from Crawford (I didn't dislike her in this which is always a plus) and the amazing Lon Chaney. The point where Lon realizes he's cut away his arms for nothing is one of the finest pieces of silent acting (or acting in general) ever done. superb use of his face, an amazing performer.

A Cry in the Dark - 9 of 10
Courtroom Drama list

I was skeptical about this film, it seemed ridiculous and over the top from what was shown in the special, but it's one of the most superb courtroom drama's I've seen, incredibly compelling presentation of how an animal attack is conflated into infanticide in the court of public opinion and the unfortunate mother is forced to prove her innocence (rather than the prosecution proving her guilt). What is remarkable is how beautifully the film incorporates the varied public opinions and reactions, the police work, the courtroom scenes of prosecution and defense and the impact of the fourth estate. Not to mention the ever more compelling family drama as we grow to know and love and sympathize with them. I'd never heard of this case before, but often much of the film gave me a sensation of deja-vu. I'd seen all this before in real life, in 1994 watching the furor, and endless press coverage of the OJ Simpson trial. How debated and argued over every conflicting point of evidence was so reminescent of that time and trial. Superbly made film, and I think this is perhaps my favorite Meryl Streep performance, she really disappeared into this role for me and showed such magnificent range and depth to her characterization. an incredibly fine film that very much deserves it's place on the list.

That finishes off the ten top tens lists for me.
post #436 of 501

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The ‘dingo took my baby’ remains very much a topic of conversation in Australia, Adam.

Of course there is no unified view, but (at least in my circle of Australian friends) there was a substantial view that the dingo was innocent.
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Flesh and the Devil - 4 of 10
stars list Greta Garbo

another revisit of a film I felt I didn't give a full chance, turns out I wasn't wrong, and if anything the film has gone down in my estimation. Very tedious to sit through. Garbo is okay, and Gilbert is adequete, I think I liked the actress playing Hertha best. The actor playing the best friend was also pretty good. but ultimately a boring and turgid film. The direction was solid and the photography very good, story wise it was not interesting until the final twenty minutes when Garbo and Gilbert decide to run off and then Gilbert and his best friend decide to duel.
post #438 of 501

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I see it now—it’s Faust!!!


Jeffery Cordova (Jack Buchanan) hired to direct a light musical comedy written by Lester and Lily Marton (Oscar Levant and Nanette Fabray) fires the opening salvo as he begins to turn the book, music, dance and sets upside down. But the stars of The Band Wagon are Tony Hunter (Fred Astaire), a Hollywood song and dance leading man whose star has waned and Gabrielle Gerard (Cyd Charisse), a classic prima ballerina.

Much of the plot has been seen many a time in MGM musicals and Broadway musicals as well: the time honored musical within a musical, where disaster hits in New Haven and glory comes to all on Broadway and along the way guy meets girl, girl rejects guy, guy gets girl. What raises this one a bit is the contrast between high art and entertainment and the self-knowledge that the days are indeed numbered for this style of show (even though it remains triumphant one more time).
post #439 of 501

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There is nothing to forgive


That of course depends on how one views Sydney Schanberg's (Sam Waterston), the NY Times journalist covering Cambodia in the 70s, leaving Dith Pran (Haing S. Ngor), his assistant and interpreter to the tender mercies of the Khmer Rouge as depicted in The Killing Fields Schanberg's story of the war in SE Asia.

A powerful, true story that is somewhat marred by un-eveness. Still a must see movie.
post #440 of 501

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It’s not the men in your life—it’s the life in your men.


Mae West goes from sideshow stripper (without the stripping) to lion tamer (all the while taming various and sundry men) to getting Cary Grant in I’m no Angel a 30s movie with a script full of the West on-liners we expect.

While the movie lacks energy until Grant’s appearance, it is well worth watching for West and what she will say next.


What do you do for a living?

I’m sort of a politician.

Never mind—I don’t like to work either.
post #441 of 501
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I have the last movie of the challenge (for me) in hand, so I'll finally be finishing this sometime this weekend.
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The Scarlet Letter - 6 of 10
stars list - Lilian Gish

I think I found one of the only copies of this in all of los angeles, and the video transfer is not pretty to look at. It's comparable to the bad version of Vampyr except every face is blown out except for when it's fading out or fading in from a scene. Blown out to the point that unless it's a close up or a medium close up you can't really even distinguish features, heads are just white blobs. The film is strong enough that I would watch it again if only to see it in a better version, hopefully one will come along eventually.

I managed to get through my education without ever having to read the notorious text itself. I do remember it as being the only classic text universally disliked by the kids I knew that read Twain, Dickens, Hugo, Cooper and Austen for fun. Naturally it was also disliked by everyone I knew who didn't like reading the classics. Other than knowing that the titular letter is a red A (for adultury) I didn't really know anything about the story.

Lilian Gish is quite good (from what I could tell, see problems with the transfer) and Frances Marion's screenplay compacts things into a fairly brisk 85 minutes (though I was still waiting for the film to end). Seastrom's direction seems excellent and it appears to be a beautifully designed and shot film, I just wish everything weren't so frustratingly awful to look at. The opening thirty minutes are quite brisk and nice, the middle section where Hester is condemned by the community gets tiresome very very quickly but the film picks up again and much to my relief there was more to the story than interminable misery and punishment heaped upon the poor woman, so as the climax played out I remained quite interested. A solid but not great film, one I would very much like to revisit in a better form.

FIN
post #443 of 501

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Adam, I'm going to guess you rented an old bootleg because there was a major restoration done to the film and a great looking transfer is out there. I think I watched it on TCM many years ago or it might have been a rental. I can't remember right now.
post #444 of 501
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no I think it's one of those late 1970s/early 1980s PD releases that came from a variety of catalog houses and were poorly done telecines of heavily used 16mm prints. I've seen similar tapes of Blood of a Poet, Vampyr, and L'Atalante off the top of my head. There have been good ones from these same companies, such as Earth, Osaka Elegy and others.

I wasn't able to find the restoration available on video anywhere in north america on vhs or dvd.
post #445 of 501

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Congratulations Adam on finishing.
I keep meaning to try and start again, but never quite manage to get around to it. One of these days...
That said, the local film festival starts next week, and one of the films I'll be seeing is The Freshman, with a live orchestra - particularly exciting for me, since the film is one title that does not seem to have been released in NZ on either VHS or DVD, so this may be my only chance to see it. So I should be able to come back with a post about that.
post #446 of 501

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Adam, it must have been a boot I watched then. I'm not sure if TCM's website would have such an old listing but I'll see if I can track down my copy. I don't have it reviewed at IMDB so it must have been viewed sometime before 2004.

I know Blackhawk use to have it on VHS so perhaps you watched a print from them. This would have to be an old tape because I think the film is out of the PD now.
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it's a very old tape.
post #448 of 501

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It’s too bad she won’t live. But then again, who does?


Having now watched the so-called “Final Cut” of Blade Runner on BD, I am of the belief that it is in the masterpiece category.

Moves with multiple versions are always a problem, because which one should be considered the ‘real’ movie? For sure I always thought that Terry Gilliam’s Brazil ought to be judged on what he wanted, so I suppose that so too should Blade Runner. So glad to get rid of the narrative and also some of the annoying continuity errors. Even so a bit of poor dialogue creeps in now and again.
post #449 of 501

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Preppy


Is what Jennifer calls Oliver right from the first in Love Story the 1970 movie made from Erich Segal’s almost novel of the same name. That the film is better than the book is not saying that much—but in fact director Arthur Hiller has made an OK movie—even past the matinee crowd.

Still this does not mean that it is good. Ali MacGraw as Jennifer, the bright, talented beautiful and doomed girl and Ryan O’Neal as Oliver the rich, estranged, bright talented son of a rich, talented, bright and wealthy family of generations back are luminous and redeem much of the otherwise empty story.

Still not much can be done with a script that has the two principles who are shown to reject that past and embrace the future, but who are merely conventional characters cut out of the 1950 Hollywood mold. Jennifer gives up her promised future in music (a scholarship to study with Nadia Boulanger is roughly equivalent to clerking with a Supreme Court Justice) to marry Oliver and teach young children music while her husband attends Harvard Law is only one example and the fatal, but not debilitating until the end illness is yet another. These things are easier to accept in the 40s and 50s movies than in one ushering in the 70s—and one that claims to reject the values of the past and embrace those of the future.
post #450 of 501

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The scoops are coming.


The scoops in Soylent Green are not some terrifying weapon of the future, but garbage trucks painted orange that scoop up a crowd out of control. An unintentionally funny concept in a movie that never much knows where it is going—just some action and an obligatory girl to fill out the time until the (no) surprise ending of the titles’ content.
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