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post #91 of 146
3/24/07 at 7:05am

Re: Rambo IV gets the green light

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Originally Posted by Dan Keefe
Obviously, you have read nothing or seen any interviews with stallone regarding the making of Rocky Balboa. It took almost 7 years to get it grenlighted and Stallone paid for the entire thing himself. Ditto on the new Rambo. The new Rambo, according to Stallone will be more of a life reflection movie than an action movie. Studios don't really believe in Stallone much anymore...when was the last time he had a "hit" movie. Copland was great, but it didn't do great numbers at the box office and unfortunately, that is what most studios look for nowadays.

Which is why I think the new Rambo got into production so fast. "Rocky Balboa" surprised everyone at the Box Office, his biggest hit since "Cliffhanger" proving that he can still draw people in with a good movie.
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post #92 of 146
5/14/07 at 4:54pm

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Badass new photo!

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070512j.php
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post #93 of 146
5/19/07 at 8:07am

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Teaser is up!!!

http://www.aintitcool.com/multimedia...OHN-RAMBO2.mov

or

http://www.stallone.pl/filmy/JOHN-RAMBO.AVI

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6i090FGzQ
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post #94 of 146
5/19/07 at 8:31am

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Looks nice and R rated - really R rated! Refreshing!

Hope they incorperate Jerry Goldsmith's work into the actual movie.
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post #95 of 146
5/19/07 at 11:05am

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Woah! Looks like it's gonna be REALLY good. Can't wait.
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post #96 of 146
5/19/07 at 11:14am

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Wow, that's some serious gore.

And hey, Julie Benz!
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post #97 of 146
5/19/07 at 1:00pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Hawley
Looks nice and R rated - really R rated! Refreshing!
That looks NC-17 (unless you're Speilberg and doing a war movie ). Jeez, that looks like a trailer from Grindhouse and I mean that in a good way!
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post #98 of 146
5/19/07 at 1:19pm

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Boy, all of the later Rambo movies sure seemed to betray the legacy of the first one. This one doesn't appear to be much different. Guess it might be worth seeing if you want to watch someone being torn apart by a heavy machine gun.
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post #99 of 146
5/19/07 at 2:14pm

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Yeah, he never used a machine gun in the first movie.
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post #100 of 146
5/19/07 at 3:07pm

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Um...wow.
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post #101 of 146
5/19/07 at 5:23pm

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Um, wow, is right! Damn.


Damn!!
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post #102 of 146
5/19/07 at 7:41pm

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Sweet footage. Stallone is in the midst of a serious renaissance. Let's hope he can parlay that into some new material after he finishes serving up delictable portions from old vintage.
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post #103 of 146
5/20/07 at 3:48pm

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This just looks insane.
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post #104 of 146
5/20/07 at 4:15pm

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Jesus. What the hell was that?
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post #105 of 146
5/20/07 at 4:16pm

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Yikes. Looks like gore hounds will be pleased

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post #106 of 146
5/20/07 at 6:39pm

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Holy $#@!!!!!
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post #107 of 146
5/20/07 at 7:49pm

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Originally Posted by Todd H
Holy $#@!!!!!

You just stole my exact reaction to that clip. WOW!!! I can honestly say I wasn't expecting anything like that when I clicked on the link. I thought another Rambo movie was an idea on par with making Battlefield Earth 2 or Gigli 2, but I definitely stand corrected after watching that footage.
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post #108 of 146
5/20/07 at 9:49pm

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Damn......this film looks really good! Stallone seems to be on a roll. Good for him. I guess he ain't looking for a PG rating here.
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post #109 of 146
5/21/07 at 1:01am

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Jeez, that looks like a trailer from Grindhouse and I mean that in a good way!


That was my exact thought as I watched this. You could have added this as a fake trailer along with Thanksgiving and Don't! and it would not have been out of place.

...and yes, that IS a good thing.
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post #110 of 146
5/21/07 at 4:09am

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My favorite moment -- seeing Rambo rise into frame behind the guy who loses his head an instant later.

Although gory, the clips base Rambo in reality. I doubt we'll be seeing him come out of a mud wall or rise out of a raging river firing his arrows. Rambo II and III had him doing superhuman stunts -- cool, no doubt, but superhero nonetheless. I prefer the First Blood Rambo -- a Green Beret with training like no other:

An expert in guerilla warfare.

A man who's the best...

With guns, with knives, with his bare hands.

Trained to ignore pain.

Ignore weather.

To live off the land.

To eat things that would make a billy goat puke.

Well, John Rambo was the best.
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post #111 of 146
5/21/07 at 5:25am

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I'm excited for this movie now after seeing that and am hoping for a comeback of movies like this. They are just good fun and not to be taken to seriously. Can't wait, especially after being so pleased with Rocky Balboa.
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post #112 of 146
5/21/07 at 11:31am

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This is just weirdly inconsistent in that the previous Rambo films weren't really gory. The worst was probably the Vietnamese commander getting blown up with the arrow in Part II.

I'm sure these are unedited shots, we'll probably see a couple frames of the worst stuff in the final product, MPAA or no.
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post #113 of 146
5/21/07 at 12:07pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Hawley
Yeah, he never used a machine gun in the first movie.

I know he used a machine gun in the first one, but the tenor and themes of First Blood were different than any of the sequels. Only one guy was killed in the first one and that was due to his own bloodlust and stupidity. Rambo never killed anyone in First Blood. The sequels, including this latest one, are about two different people sharing the same name. Also the sequels were violent but they weren't splatter films. This thing looks like a splatter version of Tears of the Sun, except the location is Burma instead of Africa. My impression might change with later teaser and trailers, but right now my impression is that this film is nothing but a splatter film with a thin veneer of "social relevance".
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post #114 of 146
5/21/07 at 1:38pm

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Originally Posted by Edwin-S
I know he used a machine gun in the first one, but the tenor and themes of First Blood were different than any of the sequels. Only one guy was killed in the first one and that was due to his own bloodlust and stupidity. Rambo never killed anyone in First Blood. The sequels, including this latest one, are about two different people sharing the same name. Also the sequels were violent but they weren't splatter films. This thing looks like a splatter version of Tears of the Sun, except the location is Burma instead of Africa. My impression might change with later teaser and trailers, but right now my impression is that this film is nothing but a splatter film with a thin veneer of "social relevance".

To be fair, Stallone probably chose those shots for the simple fact that distributors would do exactly what we are doing -- talking about Rambo and doing so excitedly.

I doubt he would release the film using a lot of the coverage we saw in the promo reel. He wants it to put out a quality product to end the series, just as he did with Rocky Balboa.

Wait and see.
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post #115 of 146
5/21/07 at 1:53pm

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Originally Posted by Brett_M
To be fair, Stallone probably chose those shots for the simple fact that distributors would do exactly what we are doing -- talking about Rambo and doing so excitedly.

I doubt he would release the film using a lot of the coverage we saw in the promo reel. He wants it to put out a quality product to end the series, just as he did with Rocky Balboa.

Wait and see.

Yes. Good points. I'm willing to see how it plays out. First impressions are not necessarily the correct ones, and the clip is basically raw footage which may or may not end up in the final cut. Either way it will be interesting to see how he reconciles the various facets of the character, since the first movie and the following sequels were such disparate views in theme and tenor. Some of the quiet moments in the clip do bear a resemblance to the first film.
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post #116 of 146
5/21/07 at 2:26pm

Re: Rambo IV gets the green light

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Originally Posted by Edwin-S
...right now my impression is that this film is nothing but a splatter film with a thin veneer of "social relevance".
Mine too but I don't mean that as a negative.
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post #117 of 146
5/21/07 at 7:51pm

Re: Rambo IV gets the green light

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Originally Posted by Edwin-S
I know he used a machine gun in the first one, but the tenor and themes of First Blood were different than any of the sequels. Only one guy was killed in the first one and that was due to his own bloodlust and stupidity. Rambo never killed anyone in First Blood. The sequels, including this latest one, are about two different people sharing the same name. Also the sequels were violent but they weren't splatter films. This thing looks like a splatter version of Tears of the Sun, except the location is Burma instead of Africa. My impression might change with later teaser and trailers, but right now my impression is that this film is nothing but a splatter film with a thin veneer of "social relevance".


All true but the thing is that "First Blood" and the sequels are completely different situations. "First Blood" was about Rambo being harassed by the law, stateside while the second one was about him going back to Vietnam for a mission. He didn't kill anyone in the first one because he was only trying to escape and was reluctant to kill what were in fact average joes. It's only at the end where he tries to kill Teasle. Since the second one dealt with Rambo in actual combat situtions, killing was appropriate to the story.

Rambo's a killer and even Trautmann remarked that he was surprised Rambo let any of Teasle's team live and that that was akin to "screwing up".

Since the unjustly harassed by the law/reluctatnt to kill anyone was done with the first one, the only thing you can really do in a sequel is put Rambo in other adventures, where killing would have to be more or less necessary.
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post #118 of 146
5/22/07 at 4:15am

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Originally Posted by Edwin-S
Yes. Good points. I'm willing to see how it plays out. First impressions are not necessarily the correct ones, and the clip is basically raw footage which may or may not end up in the final cut. Either way it will be interesting to see how he reconciles the various facets of the character, since the first movie and the following sequels were such disparate views in theme and tenor. Some of the quiet moments in the clip do bear a resemblance to the first film.

Agreed. The quiet moments are the heart of the character for me. The final speech in First Blood is one of my favorite scenes from any film of all time. My hope is that he hits all the marks in John Rambo and provides a fitting end to the series.
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post #119 of 146
5/22/07 at 12:19pm

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Quite frankly, this looks absolutely terrible. Yes it is violent but it also looks like a straight to video exploitation flick. Everything seems too small...lots of closeups and indoor locations. A few people running around in the woods. Really bad, trendy photography were the collors are all pushed and harsh looking.

I wish filmmakers still used anamorphic and were not afraid to keep the camera still, open up the frame and let it breathe a bit. Would also be nice to see more coreographed camera movement rather than just grabbing arbitrary shots with the steadicam all the time and just putting shit together in the cutting room. Lots of filmmakers call that "style", but it's really just laziness. IMO.
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post #120 of 146
5/22/07 at 2:00pm

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Originally Posted by Scott Calvert
Quite frankly, this looks absolutely terrible. Yes it is violent but it also looks like a straight to video exploitation flick. Everything seems too small...lots of closeups and indoor locations. A few people running around in the woods. Really bad, trendy photography were the collors are all pushed and harsh looking.

I wish filmmakers still used anamorphic and were not afraid to keep the camera still, open up the frame and let it breathe a bit. Would also be nice to see more coreographed camera movement rather than just grabbing arbitrary shots with the steadicam all the time and just putting shit together in the cutting room. Lots of filmmakers call that "style", but it's really just laziness. IMO.

That's understandable -- it's a promo reel.
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