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post #31 of 50
Isn't there supposed to be some big announcement revealing new details and info on the Revolution this afternoon?
post #32 of 50
No, there's internet messageboard fanboys whipping themselves into a frenzy over an alleged rumour of another announcement.

Going by past E3s, the big console makers do a press conference & give out all their news there & then.
post #33 of 50
haha thanks.
post #34 of 50
They could possibly do something to compress the games and then decompress and run them in real-time on the unit. I'm sure both decompressing a 16 kb file and running an NES-quality game in real-time is nothing for the console.

Also, with games measuring in the <1 MB range, downloading them on broadband would be like what, 2 seconds of time? I'd rather browse a page online and pick the games I want than pay $30 to get a disc full of games I might never play, only so I can get the two or three I really want. Heck, maybe they'll offer free hints through the browser and let you check stuff while you're playing these games.

It's going to end up that games will be bought and downloaded online rather than only bought in a store (PC games are doing it and Sony/MS plan to do it a bit with their new consoles).
post #35 of 50
I thought I heard that DVD playback not included in this (possibly an add-on.) Anyone know more on this? I figure they'll do like MS did with the xbox - in order to save money, they won't include playback with the base console...
post #36 of 50
I'd hope that DVD playback is an add-on. You have to figure that a large majority of consumers already have a DVD player. Why would I want to (inherently) pay for a feature - DVD playback - that I would never use anyways?

If it keeps the cost down, I'm all for a separate DVD module.
post #37 of 50
According to the USA Today article, the Revolution will indeed play DVD's along with Gamecube discs as well. The only unique thing about the player so far is the purported ability to download any Nintendo game (all the way back to the 8-bit era) from their internet service. That's a cool feature, however, it's not enough to make me want to purchase the system. I know that the "revolutionary" aspect of the system has yet to be shown, but it seems to me that E3 is the place to showcase your biggest and best products - that's the whole point of the show.
post #38 of 50
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The only unique thing about the player so far is the purported ability to download any Nintendo game (all the way back to the 8-bit era) from their internet service. That's a cool feature, however, it's not enough to make me want to purchase the system.

Knowing that I can download Goldeneye, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, DK64, Super Mario 64, and all the other N64, SNES, NES games that I loved? Priceless.

Just to hedge my bets, does Nintendo own all of the games that it's first party studios create or just the exclusive license to distribute them?
post #39 of 50
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According to the USA Today article, the Revolution will indeed play DVD's along with Gamecube discs as well


There's supposed to be a small add-on to play DVDs.
post #40 of 50
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Just to hedge my bets, does Nintendo own all of the games that it's first party studios create or just the exclusive license to distribute them?

Not sure what you mean. First party in game industry terms relates to the hardware manufacturer themselves, so yes, Nintendo owns all the games Nintendo created. If you meant second parties (i.e. Rare), then Nintendo only owns the games that use their intellectual property. For example, Donkey Kong Country and StarFox Adventures (both games designed by Rare) belong to Nintendo, and they can do whatever they want with them. Banjo-Kazooie, on the other hand, also designed by Rare and published by Nintendo, is owned by Rare.

Nintendo said they would talk with third parties to get their games on the download service, although I doubt Rare's owners at Microsoft would be too keen to cut a deal...
post #41 of 50
I just read something that said (as mentioned above) that Nintendo was talking with third parties about putting their games on the service, as well. Apparently, there is a pricing structure for the service (either buy each game individually when you download it or prebuy through a card of some sort). I hope the games are cheap. They also said they might give games away as promotions (I'm thinking along the lines of giving away the first two Zelda games for free when you buy the new one or something).
post #42 of 50
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If you meant second parties

Yes, 'slip of the tongue' so to speak. Meant to type second ended up with first. Thanks for the info, though.

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Banjo-Kazooie, on the other hand, also designed by Rare and published by Nintendo, is owned by Rare.

I thought in the negotiations between Nintendo & Mircrosoft, that Rare was only allowed to keep the rights to the characters from Conker & Perfect Dark and that Nintendo owned the rights to the other characters created by Rare? For example, this would allow Nintendo to have other companies create games based on the Banjo Kazooie license. Did I misremember this?
post #43 of 50
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And probably most of the SNES games ever made on a 512MB cartridge, easy - they are a couple of MB each at most. N64 games are bigger (8MB-64MB). Only one N64 cartridge was 64MB apparently, Resident Evil 2.

Well, I don't know about NES games but my little SNES game collection takes 3.08GB compressed and about 10GB uncompressed. That's a bit more than 512MB.
The two biggest games were 6MB each if I remember correctly.

Any news on the controller yet? It looks like that might be the only thing that's revolutionary about this console.
post #44 of 50
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I thought in the negotiations between Nintendo & Mircrosoft, that Rare was only allowed to keep the rights to the characters from Conker & Perfect Dark and that Nintendo owned the rights to the other characters created by Rare? For example, this would allow Nintendo to have other companies create games based on the Banjo Kazooie license. Did I misremember this?

I think so. For example, Banjo Pilot was recently released for Game Boy Advance by THQ, under license from Rare. Nintendo had no involvement with that game.
post #45 of 50
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You could fit every single NES game ever made on a like 16MB flashcard. NES games are all measured in K, and very small amounts of K
not quite. most nes games were 256 KB, so you could fit 64 games on a 16 MB card. my nes rom archive has 817 games in the USA folder alone. the entire archive, with all games released in the world (with all the bad dumps and duplicates) has almost 11,000 roms. not sure how many unique titles. i know you werent being literal with the 16 MB comment, but i'm just illustrating that while the games may be small, they arent THAT small

CJ
post #46 of 50
Has there been any updates or new information on the new Nintendo system?


I'm dying to hear more about this online feature which will allow you free access to all of Nintendo's past licensed games...


Also, has there been any official pictures to surface yet?

I'm not that big on gaming but I'm really excited about this new systerm... it seems like the hype has died down a lot though over the past little while.
post #47 of 50
Joystiq.com reported that Sega, Ubisoft and Square Enix have pledged support for the Revolution platform.

Peter Molyneux has seen the controller and had this to say:
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“There is a line at the end of the book ‘Game Over’ and it is: ‘Never underestimate Nintendo’. That is all I can say about the controller.”
Pics of the controller are still unavailable at this time.
post #48 of 50
I want to see how well the new Revolution games look. I love Nintendo. Also want to get the old Killer Instinct games and Tyson Punch outs downloaded. It'll be cool.

And the fact hope this system will be backwards compatible to Gamecube, and finally Nintendo will also play DVD's. Since Nintendo is the only system that can't play dvd's yet.
post #49 of 50
I want to see how well the new Revolution games look. I love Nintendo. Also want to get the old Killer Instinct games and Tyson Punch outs downloaded. It'll be cool.

And the fact hope this system will be backwards compatible to Gamecube, and finally Nintendo will also play DVD's. Since Nintendo is the only system that can't play dvd's yet.
post #50 of 50
But it won't be DVD compatible out of the box, you'll need to upgrade, which is fine with me because video game systems are for video games. I remember having to rely on my PS2 when it was first released to play my discs and keeping my fingers crossed that the actual dvd would read. Plus the 25k I spent earlier this year on home theater hardware should suffice for watching movies.
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