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post #211 of 1702
8/6/05 at 10:31pm
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I don't think the writers gave the people of the fleet enough time to truly revolt against martial law. It was as if Tigh declared martial law, then BAM he has a revolt on his hand. In real life, I think the people would actually have to suffer as a result of martial law in order for protests to begin.
I think you underestimate the passion with which people will embrace their preferred political way of life.

But if that's not enough, remember that the Colonel not only declared martial law, he did so after allowing the Twelve learn that their Madame President is a prophesied religious leader as well, at least in their eyes. A leader foretold of in scriptures, dying at that... What true believer would allow her to languish in a prison when her days are so numbered? She should be out fulfilling scripture! Wait before revolting? Not on your life.
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post #212 of 1702
8/6/05 at 11:32pm
A little late but on the whole Adama vs President issue:

As a member of the miitary, I side with Adama. From his perspective, the President was not only acting irrationally but also usurping his military authority in a critical situation. And, correct me if I'm wrong, in their world the President is *not* the Commander In Chief.

However, as a televion viewer I'd call it a draw. On a science-fiction television show the prospect that she is truly a prophet is much easier to accept so I can see her point of view and won't be in the least surprised to see it validated further along the line.
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post #213 of 1702
8/6/05 at 11:36pm
The Caprica Battle was pretty predictable. I guess the ball playing is what folks would call character development to reinforce for us what a Tom Boy Starbuck is. That'd be rather pointless as I think most get it. Perhaps the better explanation is that within the context of the show, she needed to prove her capabilities to the militia. I'd prefer she prove herself doing something that mattered, but that's a minor quibble.


Actually, I'm pretty sure the sole purpose of the ballgame was playing up the sexual tension between Starbuck and Anders for the inevitable love triangle once Apollo enters the picture again.
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post #214 of 1702
8/7/05 at 12:09am
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Actually, I'm pretty sure the sole purpose of the ballgame was playing up the sexual tension between Starbuck and Anders for the inevitable love triangle once Adama enters the picture again.

Do you mean when Apollo enters the picture again??? I'm pretty sure they aren't planning a love triangle with Adama, Starbuck and Anders.

Another really good show.
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post #215 of 1702
8/7/05 at 12:37am
Ack, you're right Apollo- though he is an Adama. Edited for clarity.
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post #216 of 1702
8/7/05 at 4:51am
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I'm pretty sure they aren't planning a love triangle with Adama, Starbuck and Anders.


I wouldnt say that. There have been hints out there by Kate (Starbuck) that something like that may come up later in the season

capt
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post #217 of 1702
8/7/05 at 6:45am
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Why shouldn't he help? He needs the democractic government in place. She's the best person to do that. He's the Vice-President. He knows she has terminal cancer. It's just a question of time before he can drop the Vice from his title - as long as martial law is dropped and the title becomes meaningful again.


Did I miss something? I thought Baltar was the Vice-President, not Zarek.
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post #218 of 1702
8/7/05 at 7:02am
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Why is Terrorist Guy helping Madame Prez


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Why shouldn't he help? He needs the democractic government in place. He's the Vice-President. He knows she has terminal cancer.


Um, I think were getting our players mixed up. Isn't Baltar still the VP and Zarek (Richard Hatch) the terrorist?

Anyway, another great episode. Baltar seems to be taking things into his own hands. Maybe he'll even end up a hero?

How long do we have until they take their months long break?

Ric
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post #219 of 1702
8/7/05 at 10:28am
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How long do we have until they take their months long break?
That was number four, so we have six more episodes in the pipeline before the hiatus.
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post #220 of 1702
8/7/05 at 12:54pm
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Isn't Baltar still the VP and Zarek (Richard Hatch) the terrorist?
Zarek is/was a terrorist (to some degree) but also one of the council/Quorum members.
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post #221 of 1702
8/7/05 at 1:25pm
Zarek is/was a terrorist (to some degree) but also one of the council/Quorum members.


Yup- Zarek was running for VP and looked like he was going to win but the President switched VP candidates when she thought that Baltar had a much better chance.
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post #222 of 1702
8/7/05 at 6:23pm
Actually Baltar is the VP not Zarek.

Best episode of the season despite the few flaws that people mentioned. The stuff with Baltar, Sharon and the Chief were great. It was nice to see Adama back and it was interesting to see how much understanding he had for the decisions Tigh had to make.

I don't think Sharons memories could have been downloaded to Caprica as it seems a long way away. Another Cylon in the fleet is a different matter. How about Baltar with 2 women in his "hallucinations"?

I don't think Cally or Gaeta are Cylons for the record but Mrs Tigh is either a Cylon or one evil b*tch.
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post #223 of 1702
8/7/05 at 7:00pm
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I don't think Sharons memories could have been downloaded to Caprica as it seems a long way away.


Could be that other Sharon is no longer on Caprica. She did steal the Raider a few weeks ago and we haven't seen her since.

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I don't think Cally or Gaeta are Cylons for the record but Mrs Tigh is either a Cylon or one evil b*tch.


It's dramatically more interesting if Ellen Tigh is simply a human who has a destructive impact. It goes along splendidly with the theme of humanity doing itself in that we get on the show (remember the mini? Adama's speech about "what makes us so worthy to survive as a race?"). Anyway, the dramatic reversals make the show interesting, just like how having the Galactica Sharon be such a sympathetic character, even though she did terrible things.
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post #224 of 1702
8/8/05 at 8:18am
Last episode was excellent. Loved the tension buildup in this season 2 and the revelations that internal conflicts based on stubborness, pride, greed, prejudice are destroying the fleet from the inside. We're not learning much about the cylons...but that will come. Thanks Ron Moore for turning down the titilation factor and Number Sex...we're getting some great scifi drama.
So did cyclon Cally shut up blabbermouth cylon Boomer???
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post #225 of 1702
8/8/05 at 10:09am
I think Ellen is just too ambitious for her own good. She wants Tigh in charge but thinks he's too weak run things without her "help".
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post #226 of 1702
8/8/05 at 5:57pm
For some reason, the part that I found the most interesting was that Boomer KNEW how many other Cylons were still in the fleet..... and told Baltar.

Interesting.

Nick
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post #227 of 1702
8/8/05 at 6:01pm
Anyone else noticing the similarities between Number Sex's influence on Baltar and Tigh's manipulative little nightmare of a wife?
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post #228 of 1702
8/8/05 at 6:18pm
Mark,

Good point on Caprica Sharons location. I have a feeling she's still on Caprica though.

Ellen will probably turn out to be human just to show how self destructive humans are.

Anyone else wonder if the Cylons are leaving the fleet alone to see if it tear itself apart?
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post #229 of 1702
8/8/05 at 6:43pm
Good point on Caprica Sharons location. I have a feeling she's still on Caprica though.


My bet is that she shows up with a Raptor to take Helo and Starbuck back to the fleet.

RG
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post #230 of 1702
8/8/05 at 8:59pm
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On the latest podcast, Ron Moore mentioned: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
that the prison cell that was built in last friday's episode will be used for Boomer mk2 when she arrives in the fleet.
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post #231 of 1702
8/9/05 at 5:54am
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I think you underestimate the passion with which people will embrace their preferred political way of life.


This is a good point, but the people of the fleet are certainly not under "normal" circumstances. Fighting for their lives every day, I think they'd give Tigh more of a chance to demonstrate that he has their best interests in mind when declaring martial law.

Your second point about religious devotion is a better one, I think, and would work if it were shown on screen. But we weren't shown any of that devotion by the people themselves, only by a few of their leaders.
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post #232 of 1702
8/9/05 at 5:59am
Chris: Excellent points.
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post #233 of 1702
8/9/05 at 8:19am
Thanks, Brian.

Rereading my post, I guess we were shown at least one "common guy" with religious devotion to the President, and that was her guard in the jail cell.
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post #234 of 1702
8/10/05 at 9:56am
Great episode - great series!

Did I miss something? Did Baltar ever report his findings to anyone? That is, does anyone else know what he learned from Boomer?

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Anyone else noticing the similarities between Number Sex's influence on Baltar and Tigh's manipulative little nightmare of a wife?

Yes, and that's one good reason many of us suspect she's a toaster. However, I agree with Mark that it would be quite a twist if it turned out that she were simply a manipulative and thus destructive woman.
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post #235 of 1702
8/10/05 at 11:48am
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However, I agree with Mark that it would be quite a twist if it turned out that she were simply a manipulative and thus destructive woman.


For me it would be quite a twist if she was a toaster.
I guess it just depends on how you look at it. That's what makes this show so great, most of the standard lines for good/evil etc are blurred.
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post #236 of 1702
8/10/05 at 12:09pm
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Yes, and that's one good reason many of us suspect she's a toaster.

I think making her a toaster would make the character duller & her actions too 'predictable'. By making her just a plain vindicitive, destructive woman, it makes her character much more of a comparision to the toasters & shows some of the flaws in humanity.
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post #237 of 1702
8/10/05 at 12:19pm
We haven't seen anything that tells us that Cylons have been specifically made to look like anyone. They look human, but have they replaced humans? Was there ever a human Boomer?

Beyond that, we also have no evidence that Cylons are able to steal the memories of humans. At best, if they can make a Cylon look like any given human, they'd have to capture that human, then use torture to get memories. There's no way to get a complete picture of a person's memories that way.

For those who think Ms. Tigh may be a Cylon, how far back do you think she was replaced? XO Tigh may be out of it a bit, but I tend to think he'd notice a woman who isn't his wife, even if she looked and sounded like his wife. I wouldn't bet a paycheck on it, but that's my take at this point.
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post #238 of 1702
8/10/05 at 2:04pm
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Never heard any of the podcasts, but they do sound interesting. I wonder if they get transcribed anywhere.
FYI, you don't need an iPod to listen to these "podcasts." The Sci-Fi Channel website also makes them available as downloadable MP3 files. I've just been putting the commentaries on my laptop, carrying the laptop into the TV room, and listening to them that way.

--Jefferson Morris
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post #239 of 1702
8/11/05 at 4:22am
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Tigh may be out of it a bit, but I tend to think he'd notice a woman who isn't his wife, even if she looked and sounded like his wife


Plus, remember last season when Adama was REALLY, REALLY HOPING that Tighs wife was a cylon.

It was obvious that HE knew she was a terrible person who was a rotten influence on Tigh.... and that had been true for a very long time.

But, otoh, she was not "discovered" for some time.

Nick
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post #240 of 1702
8/11/05 at 2:11pm
Does anyone really believe Billy's (the Prez' aide) excuse for staying on Galactica? You know the real reason is he wants to frak Petty Officer Dualla!

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