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post #1471 of 1614
11/20/06 at 9:21am

Re: Maggie update

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Originally Posted by gasdoc
Z: Since you recommended to me Diana Krall you are forgiven for the last comment!! (UM may get a second shot as it is still ranked #2).

I moved the speakers close to my listening chair. They look ridiculous and I had to listen in the dark. The singers were in the room. I could hear the bass guitar dude plucking the strings on Diana Krall Love Scenes. Trully awesome. By the way I also moved the tweeters out. To me it sounds even better this way in my room.

Gasdoc
Z: thanks for recommending Diana Krall. I would never have discovered this musician. You don't even know me and you have given me a gift. Thanks. To all others on this forum--Thank You ALL, too!!
That's funny...I was just messing around on iTunes last night and ran across Diana Krall. She's got a great voice! I downloaded her version of Billy Joel's song "Just the way you Are" to test it out on my speakers.
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post #1472 of 1614
11/20/06 at 9:24am

Re: Maggie update

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Originally Posted by Alan Pummill
gasdoc.....This is Alan, or you can call me P. I am the big Buckeye fan here!! We would be more than happy to beat Michigan again for the national title!!

BTW, sounds like you are really enjoying your new maggies, have fun!!

Linda, yes, maggies are great speakers. Once you go maggie, you never go back to box speakers!!
Yeah, I heard plenty from AlanZ about them when he had them. He has some pretty nice ones now, though.
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post #1473 of 1614
11/20/06 at 3:52pm

Re: Maggie update

Try Nickel Creek's albums too. Bluegrass trio prduced by Allison Krauss.

Andy, where is local for you?

BB
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post #1474 of 1614
11/20/06 at 3:56pm

Re: Maggie update

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Originally Posted by gasdoc
Hello Friends,

I guess the question is how well do the MMGs as fronts and a phantom center mode work. Just thinking.... I have read your previous posts, but would appreciate a little more discussion on this.

Gasdoc


It works absolutely beautifully. If it were just for me without worrying about people outside the sweet spot, I would say it works better than with a CC.

The only issue is how many people you want to play to. I had my MMGs and currently have my 1.6's running as a phantom center, and I am the only one who has a problem with it when I sit off axis. All the friends and family are ignorant of soundstage and imaging to the point where they don't care. Although when I make them sit in the middle, they are confused by the beautiful sound coming out of the screen of the RPTV.

But no worries, phantom center is a great way to use these. It's just that the imaging collapses outside a 2-3 foot wide area.

BB
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post #1475 of 1614
11/20/06 at 8:01pm

Re: Maggie update

Brandon,
Chandler,Az., outskirts of Phoenix. Second day in a row we have set a record high temp, 88 degrees today.
andy
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post #1476 of 1614
11/21/06 at 12:56pm

Re: Maggie update

It was in the 90's in L.A. yesterday. Backwards world.

AZ, a little too far for a demo. Come to L.A. ever for any reason?

BB
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post #1477 of 1614
11/21/06 at 2:07pm
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Brandon,

If your interested in a demo with the Maggie center,I live in Sherman Oaks

BTW guys,tonight,I;m headed to a Microsoft HD demo.Showing off their new technologies.
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post #1478 of 1614
11/21/06 at 6:27pm

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Thanks for the offer Alan, but I am pretty well sold on it, just waiting for the room to be in the state to accomodate it.

BB
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post #1479 of 1614
11/21/06 at 6:42pm

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Brandon,
I think we need to invite ourselves to M's house for a demo. Hopefully he has a kegerator and a grill for some good all-american beef!
Hard to believe only a couple of days until T-day and we are setting record high temps. At least the L.A. area cools off considerably after sundown. I think about 3 am we finally get into the fifties.
When my house sells (the market is weak now), I may just take a weekend and come over for an audition before dumping funds into something new.
Were you around when the Swan Diva speaker craze took off? Every other thread was about them asking ,"the greatest speakers ever?". If you didn't agree you were flamed without prejudice. Getting to the point, there was a website to locate someone within your proximity that owned said speakers and was willing to demo them. I did demo them at guys home and it would be cool to offer the same to someone else in the future. I have given demos of my previous systems in the H/T format, and like I stated before the last one brought a guy with a badge. He was cool though.
happy days to all!
andy
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post #1480 of 1614
11/22/06 at 6:07am
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Andy,

You're welcome to a demo anytime.I've given a number of demo's here,including to my local AVS forum group.
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post #1481 of 1614
11/22/06 at 9:29am

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Its easier now than ever to setup one of those demo sites. All someone has to do is create a maggie owner's frappr map.
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post #1482 of 1614
11/22/06 at 2:37pm

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If anybody here ever gets to the Cincinnati area, I would love for you to hear my maggies. I just added three additional tube traps (ASC 16" Super Traps) and it has taken my system to a new level!! These babies have some real bass slam with a properly treated room!!

Have a great Thanksgiving everyone!!
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post #1483 of 1614
11/22/06 at 4:16pm

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BB and M,
thank you for the offers and I am going to plan a trip around them. Now we all need to go to Ohio and hear P's setup. Sounds like a premise for a road trip! It would be cool if that was all I had to do, and could afford it. Travel around and listen to peoples setups. Damn everyday life and expenses keep getting in the way!
I hope all of you have a good Thanksgiving whatever you choose to do or however you celebrate it. I am sure most of you like myself have many wonderful things to be thankful for, living in the greatest country in the world. My wife,four children and 7 month old granddaughter top my list.
andy
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post #1484 of 1614
11/27/06 at 5:51pm

Re: Maggie update

Hello Friends,

A confession: Last week I almost sent my MMGs back:

Up to now only a handfull CDs of mine sounded absolutely gorgeous, but much of my music sounded less than nice. I told myself I was going to ship them back. Then I played my favorite CD again (Indian Ghazal) and it brought so much pleasure that I was torn about my decision about sending them back.

Day after Thanksgiving I was at BestBuy. They had a Klipsch sub for sale (the PB-10 for $200). I took it home and got it hooked up. Every CD sounded fantastic. I repeat: every CD, every CD, every CD.

The MMGs will never go back, unless I upgrade to the bigger Maggies.

You guys have been right three out of three: Maggies, AMP, and a quality sub. Okay, the sub I got is not a Hsu or a SVC, but for me its good enough.

More listening,

Gasdoc
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post #1485 of 1614
11/28/06 at 4:23am

Re: Maggie update

Any speaker can sound bright if not balanced on the bottom end. I would GUESS you might not have felt that way with 1.6s or larger and a big, huge, SS amp because they would have a lot more bass inherently but the MMGs obviously needed some help. No problem there. The number of $550 speakers that have good clarity, speed, accuracy, and transparency and ALSO do not need a sub to produce full range sound is seriously zero. If there was a $550 speaker that did all that it would be the best selling audio item in the history of the world.
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post #1486 of 1614
11/28/06 at 5:32am

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gasdoc: Glad to hear that you found some improvement by adding the sub Something you should keep in mind is that you have a very transparent and revealing pair of speakers....while great recordings will sound great, less than great recordings may very well sound like crap. It comes with the terrirory of having such a revealing speaker. While someone like myself may absolutely love that quality (transparency), you may not. But I dare say that when you hear something that is not appealing to you, it's got much more to do with how it was recorded than it does anything with the speakers
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post #1487 of 1614
11/28/06 at 6:35am
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Congrats Gasdoc on the sub.

One thing to keep in mind when using the MMG's.Although they are rated down to 50 hz,they start to fall off at about 80 hz.
To have a balanced sound(highs,mids and bass),a sub is required to bring out their best qualities.
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post #1488 of 1614
11/28/06 at 7:35am

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Gasdoc....MAGGIE MAGIC!! ENJOY!!

BTW, looks like it will be OSU/USC in the BIG ONE. Can you say ROSE BOWL!!
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post #1489 of 1614
11/29/06 at 10:38am

Re: Maggie update

Thanks everyone:

Based on your comments I will try my passover at 80 and see how I like that. The Klipsch sub 10 is working out OK, but I will always wonder what the HSU/SVS subs might have done. Anyways....

The sub increases the "sweet spot" quite a bit which is nice. I think that other than a DIY stands for my MMGs I might be done. Maybe MYEs......

I also got a 1080P Mitsubichi DLP RPTV this last week. Quite nice!!. High Def locals and DirectTV look fantastic. I can't wait to see what a 1080P signal will do.

The only thing I am missing now is time to listen....Well.......

Thanks a lot you all. I mean it.

Gasdoc
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post #1490 of 1614
12/1/06 at 2:45pm

Re: Maggie update

As an update, I purchased a Forte Model 3 amp. It puts out around 350w RMS into 4ohms. Its an amp from when Nelson Pass was at Forte. I doubt he designed it top to bottom but I hope it has some of his magic.
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post #1491 of 1614
12/1/06 at 9:36pm

Re: Maggie update

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Originally Posted by Charles J P
As an update, I purchased a Forte Model 3 amp. It puts out around 350w RMS into 4ohms. Its an amp from when Nelson Pass was at Forte. I doubt he designed it top to bottom but I hope it has some of his magic.

That should be a nice upgrade, Charles....the MMGs will be happy
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post #1492 of 1614
12/10/06 at 4:07pm

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Hello All,
Using MMGs as fronts, phantom center, Klipsch Sub10, and el cheapo Polk R30
as rears.
Watched Disney Cars with the family yesterday. A very immersive experience and very clear dialogue. Hooked up the MMGs directly to the Sub-10 bypassing the sub out from the receiver.
Now even in strictly stereo mode the sub comes into play.
Loving every music/HT experience.
I may put up my Athena ASF-2 for sale and buy some MYE stands.
Thanks,
Gasdoc
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post #1493 of 1614
12/13/06 at 8:49am

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I got the new amp and the improvement is pretty nice. Not earth shattering but I can clearly hear that the amp maintains better control over the speakers. It would probably be even better if I had a nicer pre-amp but right now I'm still using the H/K receiver as a pre-amp until I get, hopefully, a nice tube preamp.
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post #1494 of 1614
12/17/06 at 7:47am

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Howdee all.

The latest from P. Enjoy!

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post #1495 of 1614
12/17/06 at 8:51am

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Thanks for posting my pic, 6!! There is a discussion on another forum about room treatment vs. non-room treatment. I'm here to tell you that my system now has the well balanced sound and fantastic soundstage that I knew I could achieve with the proper acoustical tools. I have spent many $$$ and much time to finally realize the full potential of my 3.6 maggies. I knew from the start that the room would be the hardest obstacle to the sound I so desired.

My latest additions are (3) 16" ASC Super Tubes that are placed in the corners. These have made the biggest improvement in the balance of sound than anything else. You'll notice that my sub is now positioned in the center behind my audio rack sitting on top of an ASC Sub Trap. On top of the sub is a Michael Green Design (MGD) Floor Standing Room Tune to help fill in the center. You also see (2) 11" ASC half-rounds and in the corners above the Super Traps are additional MGD Room Tune products. And of course there are the fake plants scattered about. So as you can see, the rear wave of my maggies is treated with absorption, diffusion, and reflection. It took some time to realize the proper amount of each, but I wish each and every one of you could hear the results. I have had several professional musicians over to listen and they have been blown away with the life like presence the music has to it.

And I'm sure each room and each system requires differing amounts of treatment, mine required a bunch!! Have a nice day!!
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post #1496 of 1614
12/17/06 at 2:00pm

Re: Maggie update

Velcum.

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post #1497 of 1614
12/21/06 at 7:47am
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Very nice P,

I'll bet the Maggies sound fantastic.One of these eons,I'll get out your way and have time for a listen
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post #1498 of 1614
12/21/06 at 9:22am

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Damn you people. Y'know, I've actually been sitting in the HT lately contemplating a smaller screen just so I can fit MMG's in again.
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post #1499 of 1614
12/21/06 at 5:19pm
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Re: Maggie update

Well Jack,

After listening (and following) your advise concerning a dipole subwoofer.I'll give you some advice. Get the MMG's
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post #1500 of 1614
12/22/06 at 9:21am

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Guys I've just listed my 3.6R, 1.6QR and CC3 for sale on HTF.
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