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post #1 of 37
3/4/05 at 4:15am
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Wasn't there some rumour that Stone's ALEXANDER was appearing at the end of March?
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post #2 of 37
3/4/05 at 1:12pm
Look for it April 19th (I think), but I haven't heard of
any features yet.
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post #3 of 37
3/5/05 at 5:06am
Well, I'm guessing R1 will be getting more or less what R2 gets. Which is:

- Commentary by Oliver Stone, Angelina Jolie and Colin Farrell
- Script
- Storyboard
- Trailers
- Behind the Scenes featurette
- On-set interviews
- 4 new documentaries
- Boot Camp featurette
- A journey back in Time featurette
- Music and Sound featurette
- Looking into the Past featurette
- Alexander the Game preview
- Recreating the Great Battles featurette
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post #4 of 37
3/5/05 at 7:05am
Columbia House has it listed as available 4/5 at 175 minutes so I guess its the theatrical cut.
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post #5 of 37
3/5/05 at 5:38pm
Thought I heard talk of a directors cut as well.
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post #6 of 37
3/6/05 at 12:15am
What about the reported trimming of the film for DVD? Remember all those quotes from Oliver Stone right after Alexander was released theatrically saying that he was going to cut the movie significantly to make it more palateable? Maybe the intervening time calmed him down.
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post #7 of 37
3/6/05 at 7:23am
Here's the original story CLAIMING that Stone was going to edit the homosexual content of the movie for DVD.

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"January 6, 2005 -- OLIVER Stone is disappointed in the response to his "Alexander the Great," and plans to alter the movie for its release on DVD. "There's a raging fundamentalism in morality in the U.S.," Stone fumed at the movie's London premiere this week. "From day one, audiences didn't show up. They didn't even read the reviews in the South because the media was using the words, 'Alex the gay.' " Earlier, Stone griped to the London Telegraph, "The gays lambasted me for not making Alexander openly homosexual, and, in the Bible Belt pastors were up in the pulpit saying that to watch this film was to be tempted by Satan." Stone said he'd change the offending scenes for the DVD: "The bond [between men] can be suggested in different ways." "
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Personally, I do not trust a story that can't even get the name of the movie correct. The movie is called 'Alexander' and the story calls it 'Alexander The Great'. Maybe that's a minor quibble but how good can their info be if they don't even get the title right?

Note that there's no quote from Stone saying that he was going to change the movie. The article says that he said that. The only direct quotes from Stone talk about why people didn't see the movie (which you can agree or disagree with).

And he said was "The bond [between men] can be suggested in different ways." While it may, it doesn't have to pertain to changing the movie. But when you put it together with a claim that the movie is going to be edited, it takes on a whole different meaning. Probably what Stone was talking about was an extended version/director's cut/special edition, etc. for home video which was twisted into that he was going to take the 'gay stuff' out.
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post #8 of 37
3/6/05 at 9:44am
If it's due next month, shouldn't we have seen a press release by now? Awfully late for that to happen...
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post #9 of 37
3/6/05 at 12:08pm
According to Video ETA, June:

http://videoeta.com/movie.html?via=form&id=57651

They seem like they are usually close.
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post #10 of 37
3/9/05 at 9:43am
I'm hoping that eventually we'll get an alternate cut of Alexander because even Stone acknowledged that the theatrical cut is flawed. Somehow I was able to overlook the flaws and still enjoy the movie - I'm just crazy about Oliver Stone it seems.

I look forward to getting the DVD when it comes out!
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post #11 of 37
4/24/05 at 3:39pm
Well seems no theatrical cut, unless the Director's Cut also has the theatrical version via seamless branching.

DavisDVD posted this image:

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post #12 of 37
4/24/05 at 9:55pm
What he said then
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PF: So is the DVD going to be the definitive directors cut?

OS: This is the directors cut. I'll live and die by it. I don't have a director's cut. I hate that terminology. Now the DVD guys say that's just a marketing tool - no - if it's gonna be a cut that I do, it's going to be a PG 13 cut - if these mother fuckers would pay. I don't make a dime on the DVDs, it's like the biggest rip-off in modern corporate history - one of the biggest - almost as bad as Enron. They made a deal in the 80's with the actors, writers and directors and then they defused it.
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post #13 of 37
4/25/05 at 5:49am
Very intriguing, all those different specifications on the Regional Spy page of Davisdvd. Looks like DVD Beaver is going to have a hard time comparing all these versions

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Warner Home Video Germany has announced Alexander for release on May 26th. The Oliver Stone-directed film will be available in both a standard single-disc edition, as well as a two-disc premium edition. Each comes with a 2.35 anamorphic transfer, English & German Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS Surround tracks. Extras on the two-disc set include an audio commentary with Stone, "Fight Against Time: Olive Stone's Alexander" documentary, "The Making of Alexander" featurette, cast interviews, trailers and TV spots. Although unconfirmed, all signs point to these discs featuring the theatrical cut of the film.

Over in Italy, the film will be available on May 17th with an anamorphic transfer of the theatrical cut, Italian and English Dolby Digital 5.1 tracks. Extras on this two-disc set include commentary with Stone and Alexander biographer and Oxford University Professor Robin Lane Fox, "From the Story To the Movie," "The Work of the Actors" and behind-the-scenes featurettes, trailers and DVD-ROM weblinks. In Denmark, the film is actually now available again in both single and two-disc editions. Each comes with a 2.35 anamorphic transfer and Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS Surround tracks. Extras on the two-disc include the "Fight Against time: Olive Stone's Alexander" documentary, "The Making of Alexander" featurette, cast interviews and trailers. No commentary however for the Danes. The UK gets single and two-disc editions on July 4th.

Most interesting is a three-disc set due in Region 3 Hong Kong on May 5th. This set comes with an anamorphic transfer, English Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS Surround tracks, the "Fight Against Time" documentary, international featurettes, cast interviews, B-roll footage, sound bites and trailers. What the third disc includes is still a bit fuzzy, but interestingly the run time for the film is listed as 275 minutes. Whether this is a typo, or it means this is some super-extended edition is as-of-yet unknown. Covers for all can be seen by clicking the above thumbnail.
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post #14 of 37
4/25/05 at 9:18am
The run-time for the R3 3-disc set has been corrected to 173 minutes
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post #15 of 37
4/25/05 at 9:59am
"I don't make a dime on the DVDs"

Im suprised to hear that.
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post #16 of 37
4/25/05 at 8:40pm
The region 1 dvd will be a director's cut. It will be shorter than the theatrical cut, which will also be available on R1; it is unclear if these two cuts will be included in the same set. It is also unclear if this is a launch title. In any case, the new cut is drastically different, particularly in terms of structure; much the Hopkins narration stuff is out, the King Philip assassination scene is back in its linear spot, and some of the childhood stuff is gone. The first battle will occur earlier, so that the two battles provide bookends for the film. He also threw in, among other things, a scene involving animal sacrifice in preparation for battle. (this is all from the latest version of Cineaste magazine, the one with Leo Dicaprio on the front, in the article "Oliver Stone defends Alexander." Great article btw) I'm personally really excited about this, all the stuff about the movie that bugged me could be solved through editing. It always seems Oliver's just not quite done with his movies by theatrical release date. I trust he'll throw another plate of cinematic brilliance our way shortly.

Regards,
Nathan
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post #17 of 37
4/25/05 at 10:28pm
Cineaste Interview page 6 (both versions?)

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Cineaste: Is that why you decided, so late in the film, to flashback eight years earlier to Phillip’s assassination?

Stone: [Long chuckle] That is a decision that’s come back to haunt me, right? After Alexander’s disgrace over his murder of Cleitus, I wanted to kick off the third act with a summation of the power of his father’s assassination, to show how it affected him, and to remind the audience of the presence in his life of his father and mother. I think the structure works for some people because it’s more of a holding back of the event device. I can understand how others might have preferred more of a liner version, where the assassination occurs earlier, chronologically, and the mother continues to exist as the writer of letters and the father exists as a ghost. It’s a question of weighting the balance.

In the DVD version coming up, I’m going to attempt another approach to the same story with a different structure, because I believe it was closer to the original script that I wrote. If this works, it will perhaps be more complicated on paper, but I believe emotionally simpler. The theatrical version will also be reproduced and distributed at the same time. My underlying belief is that both versions can work. I remember mentions of playwrights such as Tennessee Williams and Arthur Miller rewriting parts of a play after it had been produced. Composers do the same. Why shouldn’t a filmmaker be able to do so on DVD versions and various other forms of the future? It seems that Shakespeare’s plays are always being bowdlerized by filmmakers, cut into pieces of their own choice –that’s a form of reediting as well. It’s quite possible, that given the flexibility of this form, which has moved so quickly from theater to home video, that in five, ten, or fifteen years, if there’s any interest, I could make –if I felt so –a third version.
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post #18 of 37
4/26/05 at 4:30am
If the director's cut does insert the assassination of Philip into its chronological position, it will make the movie a lot better for me. It was probably an experimental move on Stone's part that just didn't work. Some judicious editing should really help this film.
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post #19 of 37
4/26/05 at 6:33am
I just may be interested in this dvd again.
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post #20 of 37
4/26/05 at 8:39am
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If the director's cut does insert the assassination of Philip into its chronological position, it will make the movie a lot better for me. It was probably an experimental move on Stone's part that just didn't work. Some judicious editing should really help this film.

Actually, this is incorrect. According to Stone's interview at Berkeley, and some earlier screenings of the director's cut, this is more how it will go:

- After the scene in the cave, with child Alexander and his father, it will cut straight to the battle of Gaugamela (thereby ensuring that the first time we see Colin Farrell, he's not a wuss).

- Throughout the film, the scenes of Alexander's young adult years will be spread throughout the film, paralleling the events going on in his own life with the events leading up to his father's death.
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post #21 of 37
4/26/05 at 11:35am
I like some of these moves. Overall, I enjoyed Alexander, but, being a video editor, I was just blown away with some of the horrible editing choices made. I was also not a fan of the soundtrack.

I can't wait to check this DVD out though.
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post #22 of 37
4/27/05 at 3:24am
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Actually, this is incorrect. According to Stone's interview at Berkeley, and some earlier screenings of the director's cut, this is more how it will go:
Jack, do you have more info about these sources? They sound intriguing.
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post #23 of 37
4/27/05 at 1:34pm
I've been keeping track of the dvd's progress at this forum:

http://www.epicfilmtalk.com

They've got a section for Alexander. There's a dvd thread that they've had going for a while. I've been following it for a while.
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post #24 of 37
4/27/05 at 5:00pm
Here you go, guys, courtesy of the folks at www.epicfilmtalk.com:

http://store.warnervideo.com/whv.pro...X0V1Q2GPRJDRBA

Two versions: theatrical and "final cut"; the final cut will be availible in FS and WS versions. Both street August 2nd.
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post #25 of 37
4/27/05 at 7:40pm
Warner please use the initially planned cover art
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post #26 of 37
4/27/05 at 8:43pm
That young adult intercutting idea sounds great. Come to think of it, that's what I remember reading as the original concept for the film back in preproduction. Very interested to hear Stone's commentary.
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post #27 of 37
4/30/05 at 1:39pm
maybe someone has better eyes or monitor than me but does that say 2 or 3 disc widescreen special edition on the davisdvd article?
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post #28 of 37
4/30/05 at 1:52pm
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Two versions: theatrical and "final cut"; the final cut will be availible in FS and WS versions. Both street August 2nd.


Well I hope the "Final Cut" edition will have the extras from the "Theatrical" as well. I would hate to miss that Vangelis featurette.
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post #29 of 37
5/4/05 at 12:27pm
bump
just ordered the 3 disc r3 seen here.
http://www.movietyme.com/catalog/pro...6&currency=USD
if its the directors cut or has been recut i will detail the changes.
it sould arrive next week (boy i hope the dts lives up to its name !)
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post #30 of 37
5/4/05 at 12:34pm
cd-wow are cheaper ...

http://www6.cd-wow.com/detail_result...uct_code=17962
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