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Collections - Warners way or Universal?
With universal you're not getting a choice from what I can tell with these sets, where with WB, those who wish to purchase select titles are free to do so. WB is delivering sets with some very good films at very good values. There's no turkey in my film noir set. They're all good films. Same with the gangsters collection. They're doing a good job with the transfers, extras, and I love the cover artwork on these films. Old style hand drawn poster art is just gorgeous.
I love the whole night at the movies aspects of the gangsters collections. Like a little time capsule to that year. WB all the way.
For Warner's, there's obvious a staff of very savvy peope with passion for, and good knowledge of the product.
It's like comparing K-Mart to Tiffany's
Like I wrote in another thread, Universal's bargain bin approach to their film library doesn't appeal to me. Universal seems to just not care.
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I've even been passing on essential titles from Universal, because I don't want to sponsor their continued abuse of their back catalog.
On the otherside, I've been purchasing about 80% of WB's output in the last year, and nearly every boxset.
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| All the Universal Monster Legacy Collections are great! It's hard to argue that they don't care about their product when these are out there. Sure Warners are loads better at it, but that doesn't mean Universal is abusing their catalog. |
I don't consider those to be that great. I have all of the original discs, and I'm glad for it. The only one that I bought was the Creature Collection, which I'm fairly happy with. I don't like the practice of cramming multiple films on to one disc, and I absolutely hate double sided discs, due to their fragility, and also because it's quite common that they come packaged with manufacturing defects. ...and I also have no use for some character busts. I'd much rather spend the money for fixed prints and worthwhile extras.
In their defense, the W.C. Fields collection seemed well-done but that's a rarity in my view.
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| It's very simple. For Universal, it's like selling shoe polish, pork bellies or crackers....they're clueless. For Warner's, there's obvious a staff of very savvy peope with passion for, and good knowledge of the product. |
I think that just about sums it up; some of the ideas are excellent, but Universal just fall apart in execution. Their recent giant John Wayne boxset in R2 was a case in point - some fabulous titles, but decent transfers accompanied by bad (and the just plain awful), extras very sloppily considered and ham fistedly put together.
They seem to ape Warners, but pale by comparison.
And there is no excuse - none - for releasing p&s transfers of 'scope films. Warners don't hit a home run every time, and I'm a little flabbergasted when they don't. On the other hand, I'm flabbergasted when Universal get it right...
| All the Universal Monster Legacy Collections are great! It's hard to argue that they don't care about their product when these are out there. |
Not when you consider the fact that many of these movies were already released on DVD (in the first batch we only got ONE movie, House of Dracula, that was not released earlier).
Even worse, for many of the monster movies and other older movies, Universal is simply using the same transfers they used for VHS and laserdisc releases 10-15 YEARS AGO! They're not even doing new transfers for many of these movies! That's ridiculous and unacceptable!
Of course, the irony is that, after Warner, Universal has the finest back catalogue of all the major studios. That a big company like this can't figure out what to do with it and hasn't got the nerve to try is bewildering to say the least.
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I'm not certain that the R2 box is released in England, is by the same Universal here in the states. I've seen a few of their John Wayne R2 films, and it's almost bootleg quality. Plus, Universal doesn't legally own rights to 2/3 of the films in that box. Not really sure it's fair to bash Universal on this one....
These films are short enough that people two per side still enables a decent quality DVD to be made. More importantly, I can store 24 A&C movies in not much more space than which is required for any 3 Warners movies.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Warners DVDs, but as I collect box set after box set, space is becoming an issue. If there was an ideal compromise it would be that Warner's multi disc collections be available in slim cases. That way, the nice cover art remains as do the liner notes, but more can be stored in the same amount of space.
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As for Warner Bros., they obviously put a lot of care and love into their product. But, I'd rather prefer to see some of these movie sets utilize those individual slim-packs, like many of the tv-show releases do. Primarily for reasons of space. I got the "Charlie Chan" set, yet every time I look at it, I wince at how much space it takes up on my shelf. Those six films are quite short, and could have been put on two-to-a-disc, and in slim cases. That could have cut the physical size down by 75% or more. Maybe it has more to do with my sense of aesthetics than practicality, but I just like the look and feel of thinner, heavier boxes, than light, big, space-eating boxes. Perhaps because the latter reminds me of public-domain type collections which try to impress consumers with big boxes, yet little actual material spread over many discs.
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| I'm not certain that the R2 box is released in England, is by the same Universal here in the states. I've seen a few of their John Wayne R2 films, and it's almost bootleg quality. Plus, Universal doesn't legally own rights to 2/3 of the films in that box. Not really sure it's fair to bash Universal on this one.... |
It's Universal; the studio's UK arm, but the same company. And Universal does have legal UK distribution rights to those movies, just as they have rights to distribute certain Hitchcock movies that you'll find under Warners wing in R1.
I don't know who else to blame other than Universal...
Since we're supposed to be mainly talking about PACKAGING, I prefer the Warner "packaging" where individual discs are put into one collectible box. All the same, there's something very cool and convenient about Universal's Legacy sets, the Abbott & Costello Sets, Ma and Pa Kettle, etc....
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The WB approach is great, but if Universal had taken that approach with the Marlon Brando set, I probabaly would not consider buying so many mid-tier titles. I certainly did not buy any of them when they were released individually.
Regards,
I enjoy the Universal bargain boxes, but I cherish the Warners. (And not just the 2-disc sets; BROADWAY MELODY contains more than an hour's worth of bonus musical featurettes that I've watched 3 times already.)
I was at Best Buy yesterday and picked up a couple 4 FAVORITES COLLECTIONS from Universal for $4.99 each.
These 2 I picked up; they are 2 discs sets with 2 films dual layered on each disc. No extras and there is not a chapeter menu.
4 Movie Marathon: Classic War Collection (Wake Island / To Hell and Back / Battle Hymn / Gray Lady Down)
4 Movie Marathon: Cult Horror Collection (The Funhouse / Phantasm II / The Serpent and the Rainbow / Sssssss)
They also had these:
4 Movie Marathon: Classic Western Collection (Albuquerque / Whispering Smith / The Duel at Silver Creek / War Arrow)
4 Movie Marathon: Comedy Favorites Collection (Cross My Heart / Fierce Creatures / Opportunity Knocks / Splitting Heirs) - FIERCE CREATURES STILL FULL FRAME!
4 Movie Marathon: Teen Comedy Collection
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