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Indy 4 is the one movie that I'm more interested in than this but I'm still pretty damn excited.

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Im shocked that this is actually happening.

I stopped watching w/ Season5, but if its interesting, will give it a chance.

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I think the stars just sorta aligned to get this going:

Duchovny has a new show which has raised his profile

The script is ready pre-strike

Doing a "monster of the week"-style script as opposed to a big sci-fi spectacle will likely result in this being pretty moderately-budgeted which makes it a pretty safe bet even if it isn't a huge blockbuster.

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As deliciously, effervescently excited as I am about this news, didn't the series end with a major, portentous cliffhanger??? How can they do just a "monster-of-the-week" story after all this time like damn near Armageddon isn't a few short years away? They better get a promise from 20th Century Fox that, no matter how movie #2 performs, they'll greenlight #3 so we can get true resolution to the entire mythology arc.

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I've discussed that on other forums.

There are rumors that they are going the "lost episode" route and this new movie will take place somewhere during season 7. That obviously has the downside of not being able to really have any repercussions whatsoever but it would allow them to bring back the supporting cast, almost all of which was dead by the time the series ended.

A "monster of the week" movie with Mulder & Scully as FBI agents is gonna be a bigger crowd-pleaser than a "mythology" movie that continues the mytharc but making the more crowd-pleasing movie can only help the chances of the riskier one being made.

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In the final episode Mulder found out that there will be an alien invasion on December 22, 2012. December 21, 2012 is a Friday and that's roughly four and a half years after the release date of the new movie. I don't think the 10-year gap between "X-Files" movies really counts because the show was on the air for nearly half that time but 4 and a half years between the second and third films is certainly feasible.

I say let them make a pile of money off of this one and use that as a springboard for the more fan-centric movie. The whole thing is very marketable too, they marketing potential in counting down to a massive alien invasion is pretty obvious, and I can see networks like the History Channel running a lot of stuff about the Mayan calendar since most calculations put it between December 21 and 23rd 2012 (which is obviously where they got the idea) and then when the world doesn't end Fox can say it was because Mulder & Scully stopped the invasion.

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According to TV.com, it's also being shot in Vancouver. Overall, I enjoyed the episodes shot in Los Angeles but I'm happy to see them head back to their roots.

http://www.tv.com/story/10388.html?o...dlines;title;1

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I also remember reading that this film actually takes place sometime earlier.

So dont expect any resolution from the end of the series.

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I feel the same about the next Star Trek movie.

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As the biggest Trekker I know, I cannot share this sentiment. I still dread THE YOUNG KIRK AND SPOCK CHRONICLES...

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"I still dread THE YOUNG KIRK AND SPOCK CHRONICLES..."

Me too.

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Sorry, you don't know me. I grew up with these guys. I'm absolutely looking forward to seeing the original trio reborn.

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If you think TREK works best when it's looking to the past instead of the future, or that Shatner, Nimoy, Kelley, Doohan, et al aren't important as long as the script has names like Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, et al in it, then I hope you enjoy yourself. As it is, TREK feels more dead to me now with this movie pending than it did in 1977, when we never thought we'd ever see a new TREK adventure ever again...

...but we digress from X-FILES, which has every chance of being phenomenal on the big screen again!

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I think good stories work with good characters regardless of how long they have been around ie Bond, Sherlock Holmes, Batman etc. Both franchises had that. X-files frittered their character's cachet away with poor story making choices to the point that the characters were undermined.

I like ST chances far better than the X-Files but wish Carter et al good luck with the moive.

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I grow so very tired of that argument. First of all, every example you list existed in print before film came along to reinterpret it (which is not the case with TREK), so even the first performance of these characters was a reinterpretation; thusly, they better lend themselves to tolerable further reinterpretations. Secondly, none of them had the same actors performing their respective characters for forty years before someone decided to reinvent the performance wheel. It's one thing to shake a decade of Michael Keaton as Batman, or even two decades of Sean Connery as Bond; quite another to upend almost half a century of the same people playing the same people.

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Y'know, I'm looking over the cast list of "The X-Files" right now...

*flip* *flip* *flip*

...and I don't see these characters, Kirk, Spock or McCoy that you speak of.

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And I am even more tired of people claiming that they are tired of a valid point.Making such a statement does not alter the validity of a point. Any character can be portrayed by another actor. We're not talking Shakespeare here.

Anyhow, back to X-Files - good luck Carter - I'm interested in seeing how he extricates the characters from the jumbled mess of dangling plot lines left over from the series.

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Ah, but I'd pay through the nose to see that X-FILES movie!

And Lou, my statement was supported with ample points that expose your point as, if not outright invalid, then at least rather specious.

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The movie won't even mention the mythology. Whether it takes place during S7 or after S9.

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Cheers Travis. And your points are subjectively restrictive whereas mine are more spacious as opposed to specious.

We each have own read.

Probably for the best since at this point in time few remember or care about the show's mythology anymore.

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For all of its open-endedness about the fate of the planet, the series did wrap up the mystery of the mythology. We pretty much know who, what, how, where and when at this point -- so any mythology stories would lack the brand of suspense that X-Files is famous for.

It also doesn't have to necessarily be a flashback to earlier times -- Mulder and Scully could just be waylaid by a very nasty paranormal critter during their fight to save the world. I mean, that was he crux of the show, Mulder's search for answers constantly interrupted by pressing matters that needed his attention.

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Assuming the monster-of-the-week approach delivers enough goods for the studio to release a third film, then we could have an interesting thematic spread across the "trilogy" of movies:

THE X-FILES: FIGHT THE FUTURE: Mythology
THE X-FILES 2: Monster-of-the-week
THE X-FILES 3: Everything and the kitchen sink summation--M & S save the world!

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I do hope they forgo the numberring method for the sequel. All it needs is a subtitle like the first film had.

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Agreed, because, if for no other reason, it would make the next movie or two look like direct sequels to the first X-FILES film, which they won't be. Technically speaking, though, "Fight the Future" isn't the first film's subtitle--it's its marketing tagline. It's just been incorporated as part of the first film's title by certain fans (like myself) because to say just "THE X-FILES" doesn't clarify whether one is talking about the movie or the TV show and to say "the X-FILES movie" sounds terribly generic (and will be an even more problematic phrasing now that there will be more than one X-FILES movie).

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I'd like a subtitle rather than a number too. Other than Spider-Man and Saw, it seems like most sequels have dropped numbering anyway.

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I think it's better that way. I followed the series religiously until Mulder left, then it all feel apart. The last season were very bad IMO and I could care less if they ever continue the same story line. And please never bring back Robert Patrick, his character was so boring. The show just wasn't the same when Mulder left, he was the X files. The fact that the movie is going to be stand alone story sounds great to me. There going back to what made the series so great during the middle of its run.

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Whenever I see people bashing on the last two seasons ("The Doggett era") I attribute it to a kinda knee-jerk reaction and I don't think those people ever gave those years a fair shake.

In terms of writing, the only times where the writing staff really suffered any significant losses were in season 2 and 4 when Glen Morgan & James Wong left. The loss of Darin Morgan (Glen's bro) also sucked but it's not as if he was a significant creative driving force behind the show, he just wrote his handful of mind-blowingly brilliant episodes and left.

Aside from Morgan & Wong you had the same people writing the show for pretty much the entire life of the show: Chris Carter, Frank Spotnitz, John Shiban, and Vince Gilligan. These guys were on the show until the very end and their work was just as good towards the end as it was earlier.

As for Robert Patrick, even a lot of die-hard M&S fans came around to him. He's a great character, it's not a "Dukes of Hazzard" situation where the network tried introducing Mulder & Scully clones.

I know the idea of "The X-Files" without Mulder or Scully was shocking to most people at first but the show has been off the air for over 5 years and Duchovny's tenure on the show as a full castmember has been over for more than 7. Right now there are two criminally-underrated seasons of "The X-Files" that those people would actually like if they truly gave them a fair shake.

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Yep, S8 is one of their best years and S9 isn't great but it's still way better than S7.

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But the reality is, it just ain't THE X-FILES without Mulder. Our search for the truth is his search for the truth. It was an interesting study in the fact that even great writing can suffer if it isn't in service to the right character. Doggett and Reyes weren't bad characters, at all, they just weren't the right characters.

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My problem with the show after S5 was the mythology had become so convoluted, contradictory and just a mess. I thought the conclusion to Mulders sister storyline was a disaster. I dont think thats a exaggeration.

It was over for me when I saw Mulder gyrating in front of a mirror in someone elses body.

They should have ended the Synadicate storyline and just moved onto something else.

Theres always someone out there trying to control everyone else, so there shoudlnt have been a shortage of "bad guys". Surely Carter & crew could have reread Behold A Pale Horse and found some more inspiration

Anyway Mulder and Scully are great characters and I have a glimmer of hope for this one. Hoepfully it wont disappoint.

Again Im suprised this is going foward. Im glad Carter and Fox were able to work it out.

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I don't really know if the writing ITSELF was a problem, so much as the external circumstances forced on the writers as a result of "certain" people becoming disenchanted/cry-babyish and a reluctance to let the show go (though I don't know enough about the politics behind the show's last years to know whether to reluctance was on the part of Carter or Fox), made the "plot" devices that had to be used to explain people's coming and goings rather ridiculous.

Really though, that's all beside the point, because regardless of how brilliant some people may claim the last few seasons of the show were, I can pretty much guarantee that nowadays if you took a general poll of the populace and asked people about the characters made famous by the X-Files they'd come up with Mulder & Scully and look at you perplexed when you asked about Robert Patrick's character or the other lady's character (neither of who's names, incidentally, I can remember at the moment either).

IMO, the possibilities of making a good and satisfying Mythology-based movie are long gone and it's best not to even try.