Horror Movie Discussion Thread - Page 4

I don't mind the killing of animals. I just don't really want to see it if it is real. If it's fake, I want it to be as realistic as possible! Kind of odd I guess. That's what film making is about for me: pulling me in and creating atmospheres and situations that elicit an emotional reaction (ie. uneasy anticipation and possibly fear in the case of the horror genre). A gory film that is really over the top (ie. Evil Dead, Re-Animator, etc.) can be fun to watch, but I can't really be drawn in psychologically. Here's a question for you all: what is the grossest, goriest scene in a movie that still has a sense of realism?

Chris

I'd say any scene in SALO. This is the only film where I came close to turning it off. Everything from the rape to the murders to the eating of shit seemed all too real.


If you want to see a cannibal film without the real animal violence then you could search out CANNIBAL TERROR but this is without a doubt one of the worst films I've ever seen. A group of thugs rape a woman and make a run into the jungle where they are attacked. Then there's Jess Franco's WHITE CANNIBAL QUEEN, THE DEVIL HUNTER and MONDO CANNIBAL 4.

MOUNTAIN OF THE CANNIBAL GOD is on various public domain labels but the AB version includes a bonus scene of a guy raping a pig.

Well don't ever watch Apocalypse Now then!



I just blind bought an Italian horror film called The Church and I haven't seen it yet...I was wondering if I made a mistake?
Mind you I loved another of Argento's produced/written classics Demons so I thought I would take a gamble on this one...any opinions?

Finally found them!

Haute Tension trailer

The Devil's Rejects

I like Eaten Alive better because it tried to do something a little different storywise. Jungle Holocaust and Cannibal Ferox are basically "people go to the jungle, find cannibals, get captured, some are eaten, some escape".

Is the horrible but funny "City of the Walking Dead" on DVD? It's zombie makeups are little more than Mushmouth hats.

I have too many Criterions to buy to grab much horror in the deepdiscount sale, but I'm going to finally pick up the Dawn of the Dead set and maybe Tenebre and/or Opera as well. I may pick up Onibaba too. That's a film I wasn't too enthusiastic about when I first saw it, but a lot of images and scenes have stayed with me.

http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=ABD012019

Fun stuff in the vein of Burial Ground. Good disc too.


Soavi's would-be Demons sequel is truly bizarre, and doesn't make too much sense, but I still like it. Perhaps Soavi's most stylish film, and its pretty much style over substance. There's some truly gorgeous imagery, as well as some morbidly fascinating imagery. The film starts out coherently enough, but halfway through, it changes focus, discards characters, and goes crazy. There are really weird sequences galore, and with their bizarre charm, as well as the magnificent imagery, they are quite fun. Its no Dellamorte Dellamore (what is?), but I like it.

On another note, I have to agree about Salo. Definitely the most a film has disturbed me, it was quite hard to get through on my first viewing. As far as Last House is concerned, I do find it rather disturbing, though I've seen plenty worse. Either way, I think its a great film. Any fan of it should definitely check out Aldo Lado's Night Train Murders. I like it even more, and find its violence just as disturbing if not moreso. It even includes some nice underlying commentary.

As far as the cannibal subgenre goes, Cannibal Holocaust is the best. No contest, its as simple as that. A true powerhouse of a film, and the score is absolutely beautiful.

ComingSoon.net reports that Sam Raimi & Bruce Campbell are remaking Evil Dead. Sounds like Raimi will only produce. Good news? Bad news? Potentially groovy news? I'd imagine many fans would prefer ED4 or even that 'Ash vs Freddy vs Jason' idea that was floating around a while back. But remakes are making a LOT of money, which could pave the way to something else (like the DoTD remake and Romero's Land of the Dead).

An Evil dead re-make? strange. Evil Dead 2 was pretty much a remake. I'd be curious to see what they did with it. Would it star Bruce? Will it be goofy like ED2 and AOD, or go the original gruelling experiment in terror route?

If Ramie, Bruce and Tappert are involved, it should at least be decent.

Seeing the current trend for recent "horror" movies, will we be seeing a ....*GASP* PG-13 version of EVIL DEAD?! I was just kidding when I typed that, but something itching at the back of my skull has me worried.

Russell G, Evil Dead 2 was a Sequel, not a Remake. The first minutes are only a quick recap story for The Evil Dead... They did the same with Army of Darkness.

Well I finally watched The Church...I liked it. It's true it is more style then substance but then again all of Dario Argento's best films could be accused of this as well so I don't consider this to be a detriment..and what style! There are some truly disturbing/beautiful images in this film that I will remember for some time.


A remake of Evil Dead? ......say it ain't so Sammy..say it ain't so. Just give us ED4 for god's sake!

As I'm well aware, hence I stated it as "pretty much" a remake. My bad. I guess to me Evil Dead 2 is like a goofy twin to the original. The story doesn't really move forward until the end of the movie, so it never really felt like a sequel, and the recap at the start wasn't super detailed either or specifically referneced the first film, it aws all reshot, as was AOD. but you are right, and I was wrong, it is a sequel.

I do love the film though. I'm a big fan of the series, they all have there charms, which make a true Evil Dead re-make an intriqueing opportunity. A year or so ago, I would of been disgusted with the idea, but in light of current remakes like Texas Chainsaw and Dawn Of the Dead, which I enjoyed, I'd like to see how Raimi and co. do this.

Yeah, you'r right Russell G! I only interpretted differently! And I don't wanted to re-open the "Remake" thread about Evil Dead 2!

For the remake, I think they have to:

- Have at least a Bruce Campbell cameo
- Keep the Possessed concept (Because it's not a Zombie movie)
- The Oldmobile 1973 Delta 88
- A new Book of the Dead designed by Tom Sullivan only
- The Tape Recorder
- The Cabin located in Tennessee (Don't change the location!)
- A cast in the twenties (Not young teenagers...)

Sorry for being such a newcomer, but what site is DDD?

Chris

HOUSE ON HAUNTED is one of my personal favorites because it's just so much damn fun. SILENT NIGHT BLOODY NIGHT is a very underrated gem that doesn't get the credit it deserves because of its low budget plus the fact that it's PD. I'm also sure that many rented this thinking it was SILENT NIGHT DEADLY NIGHT and were left disappointed. SATAN'S SCHOOL FOR GIRLS is okay but it does have a huge cult following. DON'T LOOK is a film I never really got into but again, it has a big cult following.


CANNIBAL GOD is the EC Entertainment transfer and is widescreen. It's uncut except for the pig rape scene but this was actually a deleted scene and not meant to be part of the movie. SEVERED ARM was a letdown for me, although you might enjoy it if you like bad movies. It just wasn't bad enough for me. I EAT YOUR SKIN is a cult masterpiece but again, it depends on your taste.


DIE SISTER DIE! is the 10th film but I haven't seen that or MESSIAH OF EVIL or WEB OF THE SPIDER yet even though I've owned this for around 2 years. LADY FRANK is again, a huge cult favorite and I personally enjoy it due to the look of the monster and a certain nude scene. DEEP RED is the American version, which is missing around 20 minutes of dialogue but it isn't too important to the film. A lot of people prefer this version and the gore is all there. CHRISTMAS EVIL is a very mature version of SILENT NIGHT DEADLY NIGHT, although CE was made first. Pretty good film. CIRCUS OF EVIL has Christopher Lee. If you enjoy the film, Blue Underground released this as a SE. SISTERS OF DEATH is a very poor 70's slasher. WEREWOLF VS THE VAMPIRE WOMAN is a Paul Naschy title, which was also released by Anchor Bay. I believe the version included here is the "US" cut, which has no nude scenes.


HORROR EXPRESS is clearly the best of these titles. One of the best the two did together. BLOOD TIDE is a Twilight Zone wannabe but I enjoyed it, although it's very slow. Plus it has Dennis Hopper. PSYCHOMANIA is one I haven't seen in years but remember liking it. I haven't seen NIGHT yet but it has a very big cult following.

DavisDVD.com informs us that Anchor Bay will be releasing Visiting Hours, Superstition, Warning Sign and Quicksilver Highway on DVD early next year.

Groovy.

Also, ComingSoon.net tells me that Lions Gate will be releasing Undead in limited theatrical release on July 1st.

Gee, they have stretched out the release of this film for 3 years and in the end its a fairly crappy and not very memorable horror film. They should have just dumped it in Jan/Feb releases.

No prob. If you're interested in older films, Treeline released several 50-Movie Packs, which can be found online for around $22 at most places. Best Buy sells these for $27.95 and they are certainly worth the money. Here are three sets that can fall into the "horror" topic. They've also released 50-Movie sets for Action, Martial Arts, War, Drama, Family, Cartoons, Hollywood Legends and Comedy as well as Serials.

The Sci-Fi and Horror sets made up most of my Horror Challenge this year. I just got the Mystery set around 3 weeks ago so I haven't had time to dig into it yet.

Mystery Classics 50 DVD Movie MegaPack


Movie name: Starring

Bulldog Drummond's Revenge: John Howard/
Bulldog Drummond Escapes: Ray Milland/
Bulldog Drummond in Africa: John Howard/
Bulldog Drummond's Secret Police: John Howard/
Bulldog Drummond Comes Back: John Barrymore/
Bulldog Drummond's Peril: John Howard/
Dick Tracy Detective: Morgan Conway/
Dick Tracy Meets Guesome: Boris Karloff/
Dick Tracy VS Cueball: Morgan Conway/
The Shadow Strikes: Rod Laroque/
The Shadow "International Crime": Rod Laroque/
Mr. Moto's Last Warning: Peter Lorre/
The Mysterious Mr. Wong: Bela Lugosi/
Mr Wong Detective: Boris Karloff/
Sherlock Holmes The Sign of Four: Arthur Wontner/
The Triumph of Sherlock Holmes: Arthur Wontner/
Sherlock Holmes Murder at the Baskervilles: Arthur Wontner/

Sherlock Holmes The Woman in Green: Basil Rathbone/
Sherlock Holmes A Study in Scarlet: Reginald Owen/
Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon: Basil Rathbone/

Sherlock Holmes Terror By Night: Basil Rathbone/

Sherlock Holmes Dressed To Kill: Basil Rathbone/
Nancy Drew Reporter: Bonita Granville/
Kennel Murder Case: William Powell/
The Death Kiss: David Manners/
Suddenly: Frank Sinatra Impact: Brian Donlevy/
He Walked by Night: Richard Basehart/
Quicksand: Mickey Rooney/
Eyes in the Night: Donna Reed/
The Man on the Eiffel Tower: Burgess Merideth/
Topper Returns: Roland Young/
The Green Glove: Glenn Ford
The Second Woman: Robert Young/
Fog Island: Lionel Atwill/
They Made me a Criminal: John Garfield/
Jigsaw: Franchot Tone/
Algiers: Charle Boyer;Hedy Lamarr/
Murder With Pictures: Lew Ayres/
The Stranger: Orson Welles/
Murder at Midnight: Aileen Pringle/
Kansas City Confidential: John Payne/
Detour: Tom Neal/
Too Late for Tears: Lizabeth Scott/
Mystery Liner: Noah Beery/
Scarlet Street: Edward G. Robinson/
Midnight Manhunt: Ann Savage/
Murder By Television: Bela Lugosi/
The Moonstone: David Manners/
Great Guy: James Cagney

Horror Classics 50 DVD Movie Megapack


Movie name: Starring

Carnival of Souls: Candace Hilligoss/
Atom Age Vampire: Alberto Lupo/
Creature from the Haunted Sea: Robert Towne/
Nightmare Castle: Barbara Steele/
Black Dragons: Bela Lugosi/
Invisible Ghost: Bela Lugosi/
One Body Too Many: Bela Lugosi/
White Zombie: Bela Lugosi/
Attack of the Giant Leeches: Ken Clark/
The Screaming Skull: John Hudson/
Beast of Yucca Flats: Tor Johnson/
The Terror: Jack Nicholson/
Revolt of the Zombies: Dean Jagger/
The Giant Gila Monster: Don Sullivan/
The Fatal Hour: Boris Karloff/
Dead Men Walk: George Zucco/
The Mad Monster: George Zucco/
Maniac: Bill Woods/
Metropolis: Gustav Frolich/
The Vampire Bat: Melvyn Douglas/
The Ape: Boris Karloff/
The Monster Maker: J Carrol Naish/
The Killer Shrews: James Best/
The Brain That Wouldn't Die: Jason Evers/
King of the Zombies: Joan Woodbury/
Dr. Jeckyll Mr. Hyde: John Barrymore/
Bluebeard: John Carradine/
The Corpse Vanishes: Bela Lugosi/
Night of the Living Dead: Judith O'Dea/
Doomed to Die: Boris Karloff/
The Phantom of the Opera: Lon Chaney/
The Indestructible Man: Lon Chaney Jr./
The Hunchback of Notre Dame: Lon Chaney/
Nosferatu: Max Shreck/
Swamp Women: Mike Connors/
The World Gone Mad: Pat O'Brien/
Little Shop of Horrors: Jack Nicholson/
Tormented: Richard Carlson/
The Monster Walks: Rex Lease/
Monster from a Prehistoric Planet: Tamro Kawaji/
The Gorilla: The Ritz Brothers/
A Shriek in the Night: Ginger Rogers/
Bloodlust: Robert Reed/
The Amazing Mr. X: Richard Carlson/
Last Woman on Earth: Robert Towne/
The Bat: Vincent Price/
House on Haunted Hill: Vincent Price/
The Last Man on Earth: Vincent Price/
Dementia 13: William Campbell/
Phantom from 10,000 Leagues: Kent Taylor/


Sci-Fi Collection

The Incredible Petrified World / John Carradine
Laser Mission / Brandon Lee
Queen of the Amazons / Patricia Morison
Killers from Space / Peter Graves
Robot Monster / George Nader
Phantom from Space / Ted Cooper
She Gods of Shark Reef / Bill Cord
White Pongo / Richard Fraser
The Amazing Transparent Man / Maguerite Chapman
The Snow Creature / Paul Langton
The Atomic Brain / Bradford Dillman
Son of Hercules: The Land of Darkness / Dan Vadis
Horrors of Spider Island / Harald Maresch Devil of the Desert vs. Son of Hercules / Kirk Morris
The Wasp Woman / Susan Cabot
First Spaceship on Venus / Yoko Tani
Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet / Basil Rathbone
Zontar, The Thing From Venus / John Agar
Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women / Mamie Van Doren The Astral Factor / Robert Foxworth
King of Kong Island / Brad Harris
The Galaxy Invader / Richard Dyszel
Bride of the Gorilla / Raymond Burr
Battle of the Worlds / Claude Rains
Attack of the Monsters / Christopher Murphy
Unknown Worlds / Bruce Kellogg
Gamera the Invincible / Brain Donlevy
Blood Tide / James Earl Jones
Santa Claus Conquers the Martians / Pia Zadora
The Brain Machine / James Best
Teenagers From Outer Space / David Love
The Wild Women of Wongo / Jean Hawkshaw
Crash of the Moons / Richard Crane
Prehistoric Women / Laurette Luez
Menace From Outer Space / Richard Crane
They Came From Outer Space / Robert Hutton
Hercules Against the Moonmen / Alan Steel
Warning From Space / Toyomi Karita
Hercules and the Captive Women / Reg Park
The Phantom Planet / Dean Fredericks
Hercules and the Tyrants of Babylon / Peter Lupus
Planet Outlaws / Buster Crabbe
Hercules Unchained / Steve Reeves
Colossus and the Amazon Queen / Rod Taylor
Lost Jungle / Clyde Beatty
Eegah / Arch Hall, Jr
Mesa of Lost Women / Jackie Coogan
Cosmos: War of the Planets / John Richardson
Assignment: Outer Space / Rick Van Nutter
Destroy All Planets / Carl Craig

The thing is, at $19 you're getting 50 movies when you could buy one of them at the same price. Some of the prints are bad and some are great. The great prints are taken from the Roan or Image discs. The Image discs still run $20 for that one movie so it would be best to get the boxes. If you're a fan of these films and want to jump your collection up very quickly then these sets are wonderful. 150 movies for under $60 is a great bargain.

The problem with these titles is that they are public domain, which means any studio can release them and most small labels do release them. I've owned at least 8 versions of ATTACK OF THE GIANT LEECHES and none of them look good. THE TERROR is another film that has never looked good so any copy you buy will do. LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS will never look good unless someone like Criterion decides to do something with it.

The titles that were released by Image under their "Wade Williams Collection" all look very good and they are included in the set. Some of the early stuff is very rare so most of those films were taken from the VHS without any remastering.

As a "reviewer" I wouldn't recommend these sets for visual quality but as a bargain, they'd get my highest recommendation. The thing is, most of them will never be remastered plus who really wants to spend $25 for Corman's LAST WOMAN ON EARTH even if it did look good? I also think these low budget films work better with the lower quality.

I paid $30 each for the three above sets and I feel they were worth every penny. All those hours of entertainment can be had cheaply and the box doesn't take up that much space on your shelf.

Great thread, I think i'll, eh hem, ressurrect it. Ok that was lame.

My top fifteen favorites:

1. The Exorcist To this day I have trouble watching that one alone at night, I can't do it.

2. Halloween The fear of being attacked by some lunatic in a modified William Shatner mask is very unnerving. Kidding aside, one of the greatest and most atmospheric horror films ever made.

3. The Exorcist III Truly one of the greatest gems around. Shunned by virtually everyone upon it's release, this is every horror fans own private nightmare. The hall scene with the nurse is shit yourself scary!

4. The Changling Another can't-watch-it-alone-at-night entry for me. Ghost stories touch the root of fears I had as a child, the haunted house genre is the only one left that effects me pretty much the same way it did when I was 5. Hey, 2 George C. Scott films in a row, wierd!

5. Carnival of Souls (original) Low budget shmo budget, this is like a fevered nightmare you'd have on a stormy summer night with no electricity in the house.

6. Phantasm Just plain wierd! I know that it's like That 70's Show meets The Tall Man, but who cares?

7. Evil Dead II Bloody, funny, horrifying and...Ash! What's not to love!?

8. The Amityville Horror They just don't make haunted house films like this now, hell I even loved The Amityville Horror II.

9. Night of the Living Dead (remake) I am well aware of the original's status with horror fans, however this one has improved everything, writing, acting, lighting, direction, music, effects and production values.

10. Dawn of the Dead (remake) Who gives a damn about social commentary on commercialism and society, this thing just tears your balls off! Fast, ferocious, exciting and with a real mean streak, the zombies here are something to be feared!

11. House of 1000 Corpses I never liked Rob Zombie's music, but the man knows how to make a horror film! He's gifted! Sick, twisted, antmospheric and perverted.

12. Pumpkinhead This spooky gem features one of cinema's most impressive screen monsters, and great acting and storytelling to boot. It's just a shame the dvd is fool-screen only!

13. The Ring Samara rules the airways in this story of a video that kills you after watching it. I can relate, I wanted to hang myself after watching Dude, where's my car?!

14. The Grudge Say what you will about this movie, but to quote Dale from King of the Hill "The crap has literally been scared out of me!"

15. The Relic Dark, gloomy museum with a huge rabid leaf eating beast on the loose, sounds like a blast and it is.

I'm sure there are many others that will come to me later though.