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post #121 of 172
Seems like nobility gets lost in the Wire world. First season, Wallace, second season, Sobokta, this season, Colvin.

I had a bittersweet feeling about this episode. It felt like a series ender. I know Chase said he had to do it both ways, but still.

I'd like to see how Prop Joe and the others deal with Marlo w/o Stringer.
post #122 of 172
Yeah it would've been nice to see some closure regarding Marlo. If one character deserved to get got, it was Marlo. I can see Prop. Joe and his co-horts eventually contracting Omar/Brother Mouzone to take Marlo out due to his reckless ambitions. Btw I can't hardly wait for the Jan. 25, 2005 release of The Wire Season Two... And hope that Season Three doesn't take forever to be release.
post #123 of 172
Why would Prop Joe want to get Marlo? They were ready and willing to work with Marlo. It was Barksdale who was standing in the way. I could see Prop Joe and the others supporting Marlo now because he is stronger and more organized than the Barksdale crew can be after the arrests.
post #124 of 172
How much of the Barksdale crew is even left? Many were busted with weapons when police served the warrant for Avon. I doubt Slim Charles can maintain the corners with most of the muscle locked up.
post #125 of 172
Sorry if this has been covered already. I heard that a fourth season is in question (if not doubt) from an interview with one of the creators. I've never written a letter to save a show before, but I may do it this time. This show is a one of a kind, and should not be put to rest. He also said that they still have a lot of story to tell, and they want to explore the Baltimore eductation system next year. It could be another season like 2 where the Barksdale/Marlo/Prop Joe story line can slip to the background a bit and be interwoven with another story. Then in season 5, it becomes the primary arc again. Yeah yeah... it's a longshot, but I can hope.

Chris
post #126 of 172
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How much of the Barksdale crew is even left?


I know Slim wasn't there to be pinched and Bodie was let go because he was a victim of "comptrapment". I
post #127 of 172
Why would Prop Joe want to get Marlo?


Because of his ambitious personality, he (Marlo) will eventually make a move to takeover more territory, thus causing another street war. His character doesn't strike me as the type to remain content running a few corners. In someways he's A cross-breed of Avon and Stringer: Avon's street-like thuggery and Stringer's sense of expansion, he's not going to allow Old School (Prop. Joe) to dictate where, when and how to sale his product.
post #128 of 172
did they state the show is done? that's it?
post #129 of 172
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Sorry if this has been covered already. I heard that a fourth season is in question (if not doubt) from an interview with one of the creators.

Yes, it's been covered (see also here).

M.
post #130 of 172
Daryl,

I don't think this has been shown to be true. Marlo wants his corners but he was willing to deal with Prop Joe. Prop Joe was also willing to deal with him.

As you mention, Marlo is no dummy. I don't think he would foolishly go against not one but a host of rival dealers acting under one banner.
post #131 of 172
I said eventually he will look to expand without the approval of Prop Joe or his co-horts because he has that "gangsta hip hop" mentality that will ultimately lead to A confrontation with the established old-guard that Marlo will eventually come to interpret as weak. That's why he (Marlo) and his constituents had the balls to go against an established power base that was Avon and Stringer. Remember when Marlo and Stringer had their little pow wow (that was sanctioned by Prop Joe) and as soon as Stringer left, Marlo instructed his second in command to order his crew to "tool-up" ie "get strapped". That displays A total lack of respect for the established power base. It's basic evolution or the old adage: Out with the old. In with the new.
post #132 of 172

Save HBO The Wire

I heard that HBo are planning to cancel the wire.

For information on how to save the wire for getting cancelled go to the websites
tvtome -Wire
petitiononline
savethewire

Also e-mail or phone HBO

and tell friends about the websites
post #133 of 172
cancelling it? bah! I thought it was doing well???
post #134 of 172
No, the ratings was low compared to the other two seasons of the wire (because they put it on the same time as Desperate Housewives this year)and also it does not get nominated for any Emmy's, SAG and golden globes Awards. That's why HBO wants to cancel the show for.
post #135 of 172
I recommend the previous page of this thread, where all of this has been discussed at length.

M.
post #136 of 172
It is too bad if this show is cancelled. My wife and I watched every episode of the first 3 seasons, and think this show is one of the best dramas on TV.
post #137 of 172
The following is from Variety.com. It's dated Jan. 13, 2005, but was posted within the last day:

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The verdict is still out on "The Wire."

HBO chairman Chris Albrecht began the pay cabler TCA session by announcing that no decision had been made to renew the acclaimed but ratings-challenged cop drama for a fourth season.

Albrecht, always quick to shrug off poor Nielsens in favor of quality, told the room of critics, "I have received a telegram from every viewers of 'The Wire' -- all 250 of them," he said.

He added that HBO execs were in discussions with "Wire" creator David Simon but that the decision would not come for several weeks.

Ratings for last season, which wrapped late last year, dwindled from when the show was preceded by "Sex and the City." Still, newer HBO shows including "Entourage," which received a second season order, and "Unscripted" have earned only modest ratings.

At the July press tour, Albrecht confessed he was frustrated that Emmy voters repeatedly snubbed "The Wire," which has received some of the best reviews of any HBO series.

Topper also said it was "completely coincidental" that the lineup of HBO comedies -- "The Comeback," "Entourage," "Unscripted" and "Curb Your Enthusiasm""Curb Your Enthusiasm" -- were set against the backdrop of show business.
M.
post #138 of 172
Here is the actual transcript of the Winter 2005 TCA Tour about the wire


After speaking about "Unscripted"...

"The second thing that I wanted to mention, and I know there have been
a lot of questions and this may head a lot of people off at the pass,
deals with "The Wire." And I have received, I think, a telegram from
every view of "The Wire," all 250 of them.

(Laughter.)

And we have tremendous support in our hearts for "The Wire." We're
very proud of the show. I think that the first three seasons of "The
Wire" have been as good as anything that's been on television in a
long time. We're in the process of meeting with David Simon to hear
what his vision is for the show, because it's completely of his own
volition and through his own vision. I think David brought the third
season of "The Wire" to a place where he certainly resolved the
stories of several of the key characters. And I think it would be
very important, for however many seasons of "The Wire" that end up on
air, that they each are able to fulfill the promise of the first
three.

So we are actively talking to David. We are huge David Simon fans.
And no decision has been made on "The Wire," and probably won't be
made for the next several weeks. David's in the process of actually
writing something for us and we're waiting for delivery on it. And I
have nothing else to tell you about that because, as I said, there
have been no decisions that have been made."

He then preps to show a 90 second preview of "Rome."
post #139 of 172
There is a seminar in New York on thursday, with some of the cast and crew of the wire, so they might tell us there about season 4
post #140 of 172
The Wire Petition is at:
petitiononline.com/wire4th/petition.html

Also go to save the wire website for other ideas on how to save the show and also there is a new wire season 1 and 2 dvd survey there:

savethewire.com

Also go to the hbo website and e-mail them at:

hbo.com/apps/submitinfo/contactus/submit.do?title=The%20Wire&questiontype=thewire

Tell friends about the websites
post #141 of 172
That information has already been posted here, lorna. There's no need to repeat it.

M.
post #142 of 172
Sorry about repeating the same information.

David Simon said at the wire seminar it will be another month until HBO makes up there mind about season 4
post #143 of 172
Is it just me, does it feel that they will not be a season 4 of "The Wire
post #144 of 172
truthfully though I feel like almost all of the storylines have come to a logical conclusion, i mean there is always going to be another drug dealer to catch so if it doesn't rerturn then i can accept that.
post #145 of 172
According to David Simon on a radio show buy the dvd now of season 1 and 2 of "The Wire", than later on, if you want a season 4, as it going to get the chop. If you do not.
post #146 of 172
What program? What channel?

What you've described would be be inconsistent with what Simon is reported to have told the audience at the Museum of TV and Radio less than two weeks ago (emphasis added):

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David Simon, the Creator/Executive Producer of HBO’s acclaimed drama, THE WIRE, reports that he has had constructive discussions with Chris Albrecht and Caroline Strauss of HBO on the possible renewal of the program, but that no decision as yet has been made by the network. Mr. Simon said of the discussions that, “the ball is in my court”, and that he was developing a further presentation for HBO executives on where he wants to take THE WIRE over the next two seasons. Simon indicated he was happy to report his discussions with HBO were not about the program’s ratings or “numbers”, but acknowledged that THE WIRE has clearly not been a “break-out hit” for the cable network. Simon expressed his appreciation of the fact that his conversations with HBO were focused on story-line and not lightening up the program. He hopes and expects to be prepared to restart his discussions with HBO on the program's future by the end of this month.
http://www.livejournal.com/community...ire/13680.html

M.
post #147 of 172
David Simon was on wgnradio on Nick at Night on last sunday
post #148 of 172
Simon's interview on WGN radio is now available online:

http://wgnradio.com/shows/digilio_nick/audio/index.html

While Simon does encourage fans to buy the DVDs, he never says that DVD sales will determine whether there's a fourth season. He confirms what's already been widely reported: namely, that he's writing material for HBO to convince them that the show still has "legs" after finishing the Barksdale storyline.

M.
post #149 of 172
According to tv guide, that HBO will make announcement within a week, if they will be a season 4
post #150 of 172
According to AICN's, The Wire has been renewed for a fourth season. Sorry here's the link.
http://www.aintitcool.com/secretdisplay.cgi?id=19673
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