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post #31 of 555
Hey does anyone own one of those laser cleaning discs?

I think my 6 year old Sony might need a good cleaning, as it is having more and more trouble reading a disc without a hiccup here or there.

If you have one and are coming to my poker night could you post here that you can bring it over Saturday and then let me borrow it for a spin.
post #32 of 555
Thread Starter 
OK, poker chip update.

Unfortunately there is still a back order on the blue chips, but I did get the 100 black chips today.

In total I have 300 reds and 100 blacks which I'll be getting to Scott this evening for the game tomorrow night. 400 chips should be enough, but just in case maybe Steve or Hank can bring their suited set?

In addition after being sent a sample white chip I was so impressed I went ahead and bought 300 whites as well which should arrive by Wednesday or Thursday.

So after all is said and done I'll end up with the following:

300 Whites
300 Reds
200 Blues
200 Blacks

The first oak case they sent me was so badly damage I sent it right back. The replacement was OK except that the manufacturer failed to properly glue the front panel and there was a problem with one of the latches. I really didn't want to have to keep sending these cases back so I asked Hank for assistance and he was gracious enough to properly glue the panel and latch piece (undoubtedly with some of that powerful 3M glue).

Fortunately the customer service at 5 Star Deal has been amazing. Every time I have had to call I have reached a CS rep in less than a minute and they have gone out of their way to accommodate me and make amends for all the mishaps and back order delays. They have made it a point to ship each item as it became available rather than wait for the order to be complete which has certainly costs them a great deal in extra shipping charges and they refunded my shipping costs for returning the first case. Not only that, but as a way to thank me for my patients they offered me a great deal on those 300 white chips!

They also told me that they are all too familiar with the problem with the oak cases and have already stopped buying from that manufacturer and are switching back to the oak cases with the dowl corner support design (just like the case Hank has). those new cases wont be available for another couple months, but when they come in they even offered to switch cases should I not be satisfied with the case I have now.

Considering what a crazy deal I got on the set to begin with, I am truly impressed on the level of customer support they have offered - a rarity it seems in the online retail business. They certainly get from me!
post #33 of 555
Tubes, I've got a laser lens cleaning disc and will bring it. It's made by the same company that made my microfiber CD/DVD cleaning cloth (you do have one of those, right?). Of course, I won't mention the brand.

Boys, you don't know how much I need this comic relief from my rediculous job responsibilities. Only a hot woman could keep me away.:b
post #34 of 555
Hey, Nils. If you read this, put me down for some BBQ. What do you recommend? Get me $10 worth I like ribs and sliced beef. Not real fond of sausage, so anything in the ribs/brisket area will suffice.
post #35 of 555
Unfortunately I'll be unable to make it tonight. See you all soon.
post #36 of 555
Now y'all have gone and done it. I'll have to stop and get Rudy's on the way. See y'all there.
post #37 of 555
grumble..grumble..Mark...grumble.. Thanks for having us over Tubes. And, thanks for wetting our palet Nils with the BBQ. It was a fun time, I think, for all. Well, except for Tubes in the last 2 min of the game. So, when is the next tourney there Steve?
post #38 of 555
So how was she Hank?
post #39 of 555





Hey, I was channel surfing and stumbled on some Vegas tournament poker! And, it was from the Tower downtown hotel where I stayed during C.E.S. Very cool, and I didn't think I could get any tourney poker on my Basic $10.21/month cable.
post #40 of 555
Thread Starter 
[c]Congrats to Jeff[/c]
[c](aka Man-with-the-ever-changing-poker-moniker)[/c]

We didn't plan on a tournament style game, but after the dust settled Jeff was the last man out the door with everyone's money - including my wife's!

Thanks for everyone for joining and I'm glad we were able to put the game together in only a couple hours notice. Hank, thanks for bringing over the high class beer. The poker play was very good, and the winner deserved every lousy chip he got.

Interestingly enough last night's game turned into a litmus test for a few things.

Single Chip Denomination

It was our first game using only one chip denomination and I think it went very well! It certainly made comparing chip stacks easy to do and with all-in bets there were no necessary conversion for unmatched denominations. Similarly there was also no need for chip change during the game.

I still like the idea of using two denominations especially with eight or more players, and possibly three for larger tournaments, but it was also nice to see it work well with just one denomination.


$50 Buy-In/Re-Buy Chip Count

Basically each buy-in/re-buy got you 50x$1 chips with $1/$2 blinds and it could not have been simpler or more effective. I think those of us at the table all agreed that having $500 in chips was too unrealistic which is probably also why Steve, Mark, and others would consistently refer to the chips by their actual value rather than their assigned value - with the exception of the bets over $100.

If you think about it, there really is not much of a difference in game play between $500 in chips with $5/$10 blinds and $50 in chips with $1/$2 blinds with the exception of the perceived value.

We had the same level of action and chip movement as in previous games, but the value seemed far more realistic and thus also apparently improved the emotional impact of making and calling big bets.

Next game though, I'd like to try buy-ins with $100 in chips and two denominations = 50x$1 chips + 10x$5 chips with $1/$2 blinds and maybe bump the blinds later in the evening should the stacks get too high from re-buys.


Best Hand Wins Big Blind

The way this works is when players fold their hand they still hold on to their cards, then after the hand is decided everyone shows their cards. The player who would have had the best hand after all five community cards are dealt out wins the big blind.

For friendly low stake games, I’ve played this rule before and it not only is fun, but can really help those who are just learning the game to get an idea of smart ways of playing your cards. In many ways it makes it like what you see when watching WPT, WSOP, and other poker tournaments where you see everyone’s hole card – but of course in a game this is done after the main hand is finished.

For obvious reasons you would never do this in a tournament or high stakes game, but it worked really well for our game last night, and I believe it would be a positive experience for all our games - not only for the entertainment (as the results can be quite entertaining), but it would also really help improve the game play of those who are new to the game.

This may also help encourage some of our fellow HTFers who are on the fence about learning poker and joining our games to jump on board. After all, I think we can all agree that once they get started they will realize very quickly why we all enjoy our games so much, and not just the poker.


Hosting Games at the Luehrmann Residence

Another experiment was once again hosting games at my place which I had not done for some time due to my concerns over family duties and the noise level in the house with sleeping children.

Neither became an issue and in fact my wife enjoyed joining the game and so I even got her endorsement for future games at the house.


Larger Poker Table

I was also curious about using our main dining room instead of the poker table as it can be configured to fit anywhere from 8-14 people quite comfortably. I had not considered it before because I was not happy with the quality of the felt that I bought to cover the table as it had a tendency to catch cards when dealing. We ended up using an extra table cloth and that seemed to work just fine.

Eventually though I would still like to consider making a DIY professional poker table as discussed before. Doc had a recommendation for a good fabric provider, and we discussed some good ideas for a padded cover which the felt/velour fabric would get attached to.


Bottom-line

The game was not only fun, but educational and will hopefully lead to me being able to host more games and with perhaps a more comfortable setting than my poker table top.
post #41 of 555
Damn my cell phone, it's battery was acting up on me all weekend, thus it was out of action and I got none of the messages left over the weekend, in particular the one about this game. Scott to phone, "Bastard!"

Hey Nils what was that website with all the digital photography info?
post #42 of 555
Thread Starter 
Scott - Not to worry, you must have been there last night in spirit as there were plenty of "You BASTARD!" moments.
post #43 of 555
I gotta put in my vote for the single denomination style, it just seemed more like "real" poker to me. Of course, it's "the principle of the thing," right Jeff?
post #44 of 555
Mitch's college group plays the single denom, 50 chips buy-in game. They do it tournament-style starting at 1/2 and doubling every hour. Game usually wraps up right around 4-5 hours, it's a good system.
post #45 of 555
That was a fun game.

To be honest, I didn't like the idea of single-denom play until the game got started. I was a skeptic, but I have to say that I've seen the light. Not only was it easier using a single denom, it was more fun. You got the opportunity to play some "big stacks" of chips, rather than just tossing in one or two different colors. It's more impressive that way. It was also more fun to watch the single-denom chips migrate around the table. It was easier to tell who was "big stack" at any given point in the game. You really feel like a king when you can build a castle out of your chips, too, don't you Nils?

Edit: Also, having single-denom chips makes it much easier to look at your pile and get a good handle on just what percentage of your chips you're about to push in, and what you'll be left with when you lose.

I'm sure I'd feel the same way even if I hadn't had such a good night. It is the principle of the thing.
post #46 of 555
Good game, and yes, Tubes, you were there in spirit. I would prefer at least two denominations, as that's more like real poker to me. Let's try two next time.

Nils, you wre going to contact a guy that you said had built some poker tables, to ask him if he would share his plans. Have you talked to him?
post #47 of 555
Sometime very soon, I might be making an el-cheapo poker table top as I described last night. I'll be sure to let you know how it turns out.

I'm just going to go straight to the Hancock Fabrics deep-discount shelf and apply something cheap to some masonite or foam insulation board. No frills. I'm sure you guys will want to use higher quality fabric and materials, etc, but at least I can help beta-test the concept of a DIY dinner-table-topper.

Nils: "You've got mail!"
post #48 of 555
Well for my birthday I think I am going to order myself some poker chips. Would like to get an oak case but all the no reserve auctions, where I can get a better deal, have aluminum cases only. But it is a new chip style called Radiant by Ace High Supply - Level Six that is pretty sharp looking. No pink exactly but the red chips have some pink. I am either going to get 500 or 650 chips and do two colors only. Red and blue most likely with a 4:1 ratio of reds to blues. What do you think my second color should be, blue, green, or black?

post #49 of 555
Thread Starter 
What's a chip set without black?

Blacks go well with any color and besides, if you didn't have black then Doc might go ballistic as it would ruin his growing collection of single black chips from each of our sets.
post #50 of 555
Tubes, the only ones of those I like are the black and the white.
post #51 of 555
Hank, are the other colors too liberal for you?
post #52 of 555
Tubes, they are a bit on the sissy-pastel side
post #53 of 555
Yeah I realize Bond, Indy, or Bogey probably wouldn't own these chips, but they certainly can catch your eye.

Also look at these James Bond Casino de Isthmus chips, maybe Bond would use "girlie" chips?


Long live the pink chip!
post #54 of 555
Thread Starter 
Ok, save the trash talkin' for the poker games!

In fact, let’s make it an official invitation!:

What?: Poker Night!
When?: Saturday, Sep. 25, 8pm
Where?: 'The Dawg Pound' (aka Luehrmann Plaza)

We can even have a full 10 player table as there is plenty of room if we use one or both leaves. I'll try and make a quick padded felt cover for the table. If nothing else we can just use a table cloth.

I am also planning on using two denominations this time around = 25x$1 + 5x$5

I'd like to try and get an early head count so that if there are some extra seats I can offer them to non-HTers - wives/SOs are welcome to join.
post #55 of 555
I'm in, Nils!

Add on:
Woo Hoo! I won an auction!
650 *Radiant* 11.5g chip set with aluminum case, dice, cards, and dealer button.

I will be getting my set with 500 reds, 100 blues, and 50 blacks. Nils talked me into going with three colors, and the above amounts allow me to convert them to equal amounts for each color with the right ratio.
500 x 1 = 500
100 x 5 = 500
50 x 10 = 500

I got them for $92 plus shipping and handling to total $116.95.
post #56 of 555
Thread Starter 
Congrats on the new chips Scott. So when do you plan on breaking them in?


Quote:
Nils, you wre going to contact a guy that you said had built some poker tables, to ask him if he would share his plans. Have you talked to him?
I did, but only briefly. From the short conversation it sounds like he won’t have access to the tables any time soon. He went into a partnership with another player to create a poker club several years ago and after the club shutdown last year his partner ran off with the tables! My friend filed a law suit against his former partner, but this could take several more months to get resolved.

I am hoping to work out a good time to sit down with him and go over his design so that I can make a table that is similar to his.

In the mean time, it looks like I'm going to order a thin neoprene rubber mat for my table and then use some of that mighty 3M Super 77 to attach a high quality felt or velour fabric to one side for the playing surface.

This way I can simply roll it up when not in use for easy storage, and not have to worry about it laying flat because the weight of the rubber will be substantial enough to stay flat even after being rolled up for long periods of time.

If any one has suggestions/recommendations for suppliers/manufacturers of thin neoprene rubber and suppliers of high quality felt/velour - please let me know.

So far I've been recommended Matts Inc. out of Houston as a supplier of rubber matts, but they want $40 a yard for a 1/4" thick 48" wide matt - which seemed a little pricey.

Doc also suggested I check out Sy Fabrics as a possible online source for the felt/velour, and for a local supplier he thought Joanne's Fabrics might have what I'm looking for.

Any other suggestions/recommendations?

Thanks!
post #57 of 555
Thread Starter 
OK, here is what I have so far for Saturday night's game (only the confirmed have a guarenteed seat):

CONFIRMED
Nils 'Big Dawg' Luehrmann
Scott 'Tubes' Oliver
Jonathan 'Doc' Atkins
David 'Picasso' Gorton
Hank 'Bogie' Frankenberg
Jeff 'Captain' Blair
Robert 'Z' Lopez
Conrad 'Colton' Meub
David '?' Hoffman

MIGHT
Linda 'Blondie' Luehrmann
Scott 'Wolf' Stephens
Stephen 'Red' Mulva

REGRETS
Josh 'No Foolin' Borders
Greg 'Muligan' Risley
Rich 'Gold Tooph'
Mark 'The Kid' Hayenga
Mitch 'Jr.' Hayenga
Chad 'Councilor' Anson
Colin 'Piano Man' Dunn
Jeff 'Man-with-ever-changing-poker-moniker' Meininger
Steve 'Cosell' Stogel
post #58 of 555
Saw Gold Tooph last night at Mother Egan's and he told me that he already had something planned for that night, thus would be unable to attend.
post #59 of 555
I should be able to make it. Just send me the directions on how to get out there. I just hope I do better then I did last time. See y'all there.
post #60 of 555
Big Dog, move Colton from "Unknown" to "Maybe".
Will Girlie Man bring his new pink chips?
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