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post #181 of 205
8/6/06 at 11:35am

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I was skeptical about this one, but damn was it good. With the blend of vulgarity and emotion, I'd put it right up there with Chasing Amy. Just a great movie. I never thought I'd say it, but I'm glad Kevin decided not to go the Green Hornet route and return to his "old self."

"You never go ass to mouth!"
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post #182 of 205
8/6/06 at 1:41pm

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*sigh* More smugness from wannabee elites. I fail to see the issue, partially because my name may be on those credits, (I actually do not know for sure since the Canadian prints don't seem to have the myspace credits, and I have far too much respect for Kevin Smith to even think of checking a bootleg) and hey, everyone can see the difference between those credited for doing something on the film, and those who are just fans.

What is so wrong with Kevin Smith choosing to thank his fans, who as the box office shows, still only make up a vast minority of film goers?
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post #183 of 205
8/7/06 at 2:55pm

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Yay...im so excited! Im going to see the Clerk II opening in Melbourne! Kevin Smith will be there to do a Q and A. I cant wait. My first premier of a movie and I get to see Kevin Smith. Im sure it will be hilarious.
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post #184 of 205
8/7/06 at 7:00pm

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Road House: Special Edition DVD. Kevin and Scott Mosier do a full-length commentary for the flick that is one of the funniest damn things I've ever heard in my life.
Damn I think this just sold a copy of that DVD to me
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post #185 of 205
8/7/06 at 8:02pm

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Originally Posted by Carlo Medina
Damn I think this just sold a copy of that DVD to me


I think you'll find that it's money well spent. After listening to this I was convinced that Smith and Mosier should do a commentary track for every bad film ever made.
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post #186 of 205
8/14/06 at 3:31pm

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Here's some (bad) news from Kevin about the iPod commentary:

http://www.newsaskew.com and scroll down to Friday, August 11:

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"This is what I've been told by the Weinstein Co. folks...
Turns out that exhibitors (folks that own the theaters) weren't too keen on the idea of people showing up to the movies with iPods. They felt it was going to be too distracting (or something) for other people in the theater who weren't wearing iPods for the show - like the commentary-listeners would be laughing when nobody else was laughing, and that'd create some kind of problem. Based on that, they suggested that if Weinstein Co. went through with the commentary track promotion, they'd start pulling the flick from screens. So the commentary track promotion has been tabled until we're at a very low theater count (which is starting to happen now).

For the record, from what I was told, AMC Theaters was supportive of the commentary idea. So if it still winds up ultimately happening (and it better be soon, as we've only got about two weeks of theatrical life left), check the flick out in an AMC Theater while listening to the commentary track. You won't get any shit for doing so there."
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post #187 of 205
8/14/06 at 3:57pm

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Personally, I agree with the theaters on this one. Just as I wouldn't want someone listening to their iPod for music during the film, I wouldn't want someone listening to a commentary track during the film either. I think it sets a bad precedent; I love commentary tracks within the comfort of my own home. But I think that's where they should stay.
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post #188 of 205
8/14/06 at 4:43pm

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I don't know if I agree. I think the theatre chains are wrong in doing this. This is probably the most clever way to drum up repeat business I've heard of in a long time. The ipod is a person device, I don't see what difference it makes if the guy five rows in front or behind you is wearing a pair of earbuds.

I can understand their concern over people laughing at the wrong times and such. I know on the Jersey Girl commentary Smith and company say a few things that could produce belly laughs at very tender moments. But you'd think that the theatre chains would be all over this idea as a way to bring in more repeat business. A simple way to solve this would be to make the 7PM showing a regular showing, and the 9:30PM showing the commentary showing.

So long as the commentary is released a month or so after the intial release when all you're apt to get is repeat business from hard core fans anyway and so long as they have seperate showings for the commentary I don't see what the problem is.

But hey, it's only the theatres who will suffer in the long run anyway. If the theatre owners don't want the business from the repeat viewings then I'm happy to save my money.
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post #189 of 205
8/14/06 at 6:59pm

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The theater will let a crying baby or a child of any age (as long as there's an accompanying adult) into Clerks II but they care what someone listens to on an iPod? That's balanaced.

Unless it's Cape Fear Robert DeNiro, I don't understand how someone laughing at any point in a comedy could be disruptive to the proceedings.
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post #190 of 205
8/14/06 at 8:19pm

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I don't know if I agree. I think the theatre chains are wrong in doing this. This is probably the most clever way to drum up repeat business I've heard of in a long time. The ipod is a person device, I don't see what difference it makes if the guy five rows in front or behind you is wearing a pair of earbuds.
It wouldn't be a problem if people listened to things at a normal volume. I can't count the number of subway trips where I had a soundtrack forced upon me by a passenger happy to make him or herself deaf by playing it loud enough for the whole car to hear.
Understandably, the theater noise would mask most of that. But I still think it's an unhealthy blending of the home (private) domain and the theatrical (public) domain. I wish they'd take the same stand with cellphones, pagers, PSPs, blackberries, etc.

On a more positive note, my friend wanted to see it so I went again tonight. It helped up surprisingly well on the second viewing.
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post #191 of 205
8/15/06 at 11:01am

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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt
It wouldn't be a problem if people listened to things at a normal volume. I can't count the number of subway trips where I had a soundtrack forced upon me by a passenger happy to make him or herself deaf by playing it loud enough for the whole car to hear.
Understandably, the theater noise would mask most of that. But I still think it's an unhealthy blending of the home (private) domain and the theatrical (public) domain. I wish they'd take the same stand with cellphones, pagers, PSPs, blackberries, etc.

Oh I agree and you make a good point, but seperate 'commentary showings' would take care of that problem.

I just don't get how the industry isn't getting behind this. I think it's one of the more inovative ways to encourage repeat viewings that I've heard of in a long time. Sure, for Clerks 2 there isn't that much of a potential windfall. But imagine if they had done this for Lord of the Rings. New Line could have charged for the download of the commentary and both the theatre owners and the studio would have benifited from even more repeat business.
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post #192 of 205
8/15/06 at 2:40pm

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A bunch of people with mp3 players listening intently to a commentary track is LOADS less annoying than cell phones, screaming kids, snickering teenagers, people with their damn Twizzler wrappers, people stuffing their faces with popcorn like they haven't seen food in month.............should I go on? At this point I almost avoid the theater at all costs unless it's a movie I really have to see. Even then I try to go when I know there won't be much of a crowd because it's become such a chore to put up with all the annoyances that go along with the moviegoing experience these days. To sum it all up, I don't think the mp3 commentary idea is nearly as much of a distraction than everything else you encounter at a movie theater these days.
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post #193 of 205
8/15/06 at 3:10pm

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If theater owners were privy to this situations, maybe they'd set aside a night for people who want to listen to the commentary. It'd solve the problem right then and there.
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post #194 of 205
8/15/06 at 3:18pm

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Originally Posted by Dome Vongvises
If theater owners were privy to this situations, maybe they'd set aside a night for people who want to listen to the commentary. It'd solve the problem right then and there.
I agree, I think that's a solution that would statisfy everyone.
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post #195 of 205
8/15/06 at 3:29pm

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It's a cool idea but I would walk out and demand my money back if I started seeing the blue glow of mp3 players everywhere in the theatre. That's what I hate about cellphones the most in theatres, when people pop them open to type messages or check time.

If people would keep them hidden (yeah right) then it wouldn't be much of a problem except the one the theatre owners mentioned, half the audience laughing at something while the other half has no idea why. Plus not everyone will be in sync. Some might start late, or early and then those laughs will be even more distracting, unless the commentary is flat out boring.

I like Dome's suggestion.

And the commentary should be a free download if you have to go and pay to see the film again.
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post #196 of 205
8/15/06 at 10:51pm

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If people would keep them hidden (yeah right) then it wouldn't be much of a problem except the one the theatre owners mentioned, half the audience laughing at something while the other half has no idea why. Plus not everyone will be in sync. Some might start late, or early and then those laughs will be even more distracting, unless the commentary is flat out boring.

That's just absurd. Are you suggesting that the entire audience has to be laughing at the same exact things at any given moment? Should the entire audience I watched "Talledega Nights" with be reimbursed because I was the only one that laughed the second the Journey song began playing?
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post #197 of 205
8/15/06 at 11:46pm

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It's not that absurd. It could be a serious or quiet scene, commentary could be telling a funny story that was going on that made it hard for the actors to keep it serious, half the audience is chuckling. Would it happen a lot, probably not but it certainly can happen. And I'm obviously not the only one that thought about that. But that is probably minor to the glow of the ipods and other mp3 players.

But if you had a special night or a certain showing, that could be pretty cool.

I just think the negatives outway the positives of this rather unique idea.
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post #198 of 205
8/16/06 at 6:08am

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Originally Posted by Jason Harbaugh
It's not that absurd. It could be a serious or quiet scene, commentary could be telling a funny story that was going on that made it hard for the actors to keep it serious, half the audience is chuckling. Would it happen a lot, probably not but it certainly can happen. And I'm obviously not the only one that thought about that. But that is probably minor to the glow of the ipods and other mp3 players.

But if you had a special night or a certain showing, that could be pretty cool.

I just think the negatives outway the positives of this rather unique idea.

In a Kevin Smith feature it would happen alot. For example, in the Moiser/Smith commentary on Jersey Girl they were talking about how they wanted to do a 'special edition' of JG where Castro's character had supernatural powers and was plotting to kill everyone. They were saying some pretty funny stuff during some of the most tender moments of the film if memory serves. But like most of us have said, a commentary only showing would solve that problem.

Alas, it's not we who miss out but the theatre owners and the studios. If they can't have enough vision to see that they could make some extra green on an idea like this then that's their problem. It's not like we'll never get to hear the ipod clerks II commentary.
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post #199 of 205
8/16/06 at 7:09am

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You guys are talking like this is going to be a major trend for all movies. It's going to be a very rare occurence and Kevin Smith is probably one of the few filmmakers that would do this and that has the fanbase that is even interested in it. And if it wasn't a comedy, you probably wouldn't see this track from him. It's not like Clint Eastwood is going to record an iPod track for his new movie because it's not appropriate to the movie.
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post #200 of 205
8/16/06 at 3:37pm

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If it was something they really wanted to do, they could just put out the commentary track as a regular CD and the theaters could play it instead of the movie soundtrack (most of them play music between shows anyway, they must already have the equipment). They could advertise certain showings as the "commentary" shows.

It would solve all the issues discussed herein. This would also not limit the fun to only those with IPods (I don't own one, but would like to hear the commentary too).

Could be a way for studios to goose the grosses. What Kevin Smith fan wouldn't want to hear it?
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post #201 of 205
8/16/06 at 4:08pm

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Originally Posted by TravisR
You guys are talking like this is going to be a major trend for all movies. It's going to be a very rare occurence and Kevin Smith is probably one of the few filmmakers that would do this and that has the fanbase that is even interested in it. And if it wasn't a comedy, you probably wouldn't see this track from him. It's not like Clint Eastwood is going to record an iPod track for his new movie because it's not appropriate to the movie.

Not all movies, but certainly some movies. There are directors like Smith, Jackson and others who always do much anticipated commentary tracks. Whenever a Kevin Smith project is announced I'm always just as excited to hear the commentary track as I am to see the feature. All of the commentaries on the Jersey Girl DVD are priceless, and the commentary on Mallrats (at least the original DVD, I don't have the SE) is just as funny as the movie.

This may not be something that will go with every feature, but I can see it being something the studios could do with every Jackson film and every Smith film. Not every director may be known for good commentary tracks but it is a market that will undoubtedly grow. You would think with the growing and ever improving home theatre market that theatre owners would do anything to keep people coming back.
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post #202 of 205
2/23/07 at 12:14am

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Finally got caught up on the "Clerks" universe. I rented both. To put it bluntly, I thought Clerks sucked. Everything just felt way too forced and scripted, made worse by horrible acting. The only exchange I thought was funny was the bit about union workers on the Deathstar. Other than that, it was a borefest.

Watched Clerks II, thought it was better but still not that great. J&SB are pretty much the only characters I like, probably why I liked J&SB Strike Back. But other than that I think the movies are way overrated. Oh well, gave them a shot.
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post #203 of 205
2/23/07 at 11:00am

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I'm a fan, and as such loved Clerks 2.

Though, it's a little frightning the parralels that Dante and Randle have to my current situation, 32 years old and working with a friend from childhood in a retarded job.

I might be a little biased
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post #204 of 205
11/5/07 at 6:39am

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Loved the Clerks II (to poke fun at Larry King)...

I didn't understand why Randal wasn't going to Florida to remain with his friend. "I'm comin' witcha. You think I'm going to stay here by myself?"

Well, since they now own the store, guess there won't be a Clerks III because they're not losers anymore.
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post #205 of 205
11/5/07 at 1:24pm

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Originally Posted by buttmunker
Well, since they now own the store, guess there won't be a Clerks III because they're not losers anymore.

You underestimate the studio's perception of viability in CLERKS: THE NEXT GENERATION.
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