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post #271 of 417
7/21/07 at 10:32am

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Well thats a bummer, but the set is still mine!
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post #272 of 417
7/21/07 at 10:56am

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Is there a Disclaimer, if not CBS is going to receive some major Flak as advertising this as the complete Season 2. Guess I'll be voting with my Dollar and netflixing it. I wish I could support these series, but as I've voted with my $$$ on Flippers from Fox, I'll do the same here. There is absolutely no reason to not include a Show pulled from Syndication here on this set. Even if it was'nt remastered it should be here.
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post #273 of 417
7/21/07 at 11:49am

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Originally Posted by Dave Scarpa
Is there a Disclaimer, if not CBS is going to receive some major Flak as advertising this as the complete Season 2. Guess I'll be voting with my Dollar and netflixing it. I wish I could support these series, but as I've voted with my $$$ on Flippers from Fox, I'll do the same here. There is absolutely no reason to not include a Show pulled from Syndication here on this set. Even if it was'nt remastered it should be here.

The box only says "The Second Season." There is no promise of complete. They even explain on the back that the episode is missing. So they're not trying to pull a fast one.

Bored, She Hung Herself aired only the first time and was never rerun or shown in syndication. Judging from the number of kids who enjoy duplicating the stunts seen on Jackass, why give today's modern goofs a chance to duplicate the hanging yoga stunt depicted on the show?
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post #274 of 417
7/21/07 at 12:25pm

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd
The box only says "The Second Season." There is no promise of complete. They even explain on the back that the episode is missing. So they're not trying to pull a fast one.

Bored, She Hung Herself aired only the first time and was never rerun or shown in syndication. Judging from the number of kids who enjoy duplicating the stunts seen on Jackass, why give today's modern goofs a chance to duplicate the hanging yoga stunt depicted on the show?

While it's a bummer to hear that "Bored, She Hung Herself" won't be included it still didn't deter me from pre-ordering this set. Once a Five-O fan, always a Five-O fan.
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post #275 of 417
7/21/07 at 1:16pm

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I haven't read this whole thread, but I do want to comment on the pilot film, "Cocoon."

I never watched HAWAII FIVE-O when it was new. I was just about old enough, but my interest began in the early 1980s when I saw the pilot film aired as a repeat.

HAWAII FIVE-O: COCOON is one of my favorite action films of the 1960s. It has none of the budget or writing restraints one associates with television. It's filmed liked a motion picture, and it has all the quality of a motion picture. It looks more expensive than it really is, it's pictorially beautiful, it has impeccable style, and it's genuinely cool. Way cool. It combines law enforcement with believable espionage and a sense of the inexplicable. This is a literate script by writers who understand action and character. Casting the villain -- sorry, I forget the actor's name -- from THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE was an inspired idea. Steve McGarrett walks a fine line between dedicated and utterly ruthless; I liked how he blows up at another intelligence agency for following him, how he outwits them at every step. Jack Lord was sensational in the role. Part of my enjoyment of the pilot film is to see how Jack Lord pulls it off.

I would also single out Paul Wendkos, whose direction and lensmanship was at least two decades ahead of every other director working in television.

I also like the positive spirit and optimism of HAWAII FIVE-O: COCOON. That's been missing from television police shows for a long time.
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post #276 of 417
7/21/07 at 5:52pm

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Wow...not including 'Bored, She Hung Herself' on the 2nd season set is a major disappointment.
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post #277 of 417
7/21/07 at 7:37pm

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Thanks to Joe and Bill for their responses. Kudos to CBS/Paramount for being honest with the consumer. However that doesn't make it any less of a major disappointment. I hope the reason for the exclusion has to do with missing/damaged elements rather than the fact that one mentally unstable person did something almost 40 years ago.

Does the box give any reason for the exclusion of this particular episode?

Thanks,

Steve
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post #278 of 417
7/21/07 at 9:09pm

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Originally Posted by Steve...O
Thanks to Joe and Bill for their responses. Kudos to CBS/Paramount for being honest with the consumer. However that doesn't make it any less of a major disappointment. I hope the reason for the exclusion has to do with missing/damaged elements rather than the fact that one mentally unstable person did something almost 40 years ago.

Does the box give any reason for the exclusion of this particular episode?

Thanks,

Steve
nope. just says that it was shown once and never repeated.

odds are they might have lost it to insure that some clueless guy in the vault didn't mail it out to a local station.
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post #279 of 417
7/21/07 at 10:17pm

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There is no excuse for this episode to not be included. The Encounter was an unsyndicated Twilight Zone episode, as was Short Drink from a Certain Fountain, An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge, Miniature, and Sounds and Silences but they were all included in the DVD releases. 6 Man from UNCLE episodes were out of the package in the early 80s with 4 of them later included but I'm sure all 6 will be included in the set. Whatever the reasons are for episodes not being syndicated do not apply for home video, nor should they.
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post #280 of 417
7/21/07 at 10:28pm

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Is anyone here old enough to even remember having seen "Bored, She Hung Herself" ??
Hawaii Five-O and I both premiered in 1968.

Obviously it's not on the 2nd season set because it no longer exists (if it ever did that is)...
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post #281 of 417
7/22/07 at 9:46am
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I have never seen this episode, Bored, She Hung Herself". I don't blame anyone that this episode is not in the second season DVD set. The action of one individual after seeing it must still be a cause of great concern for Paramount.

I am glad we are getting a scond season. But I can't see how the problem could have been solved to everyone's satisfaction. If they cut the scene out, or digitally obscured it, the purists would object and by omitting it, the purists are still unhappy.

Mike Quigley's excellent Hawaii Five-0 page is still showing the episode is included though. He must not have had a chance to update it.

I look forward to seeing Blind Tiger and Singapore File.
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post #282 of 417
7/22/07 at 4:58pm

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More bad news: according to someone who has an advanced copy, the following disclaimer is on the back of the box:

"The Second Season Episode "Bored, She Hung Herself" aired only once and is not included in this set. Some episodes may be edited from their original network versions."

Can anyone verify if this is true. I'm the biggest 5-0 fan on the planet, but if these episodes are cut, then NO SALE. I hope their sales go right in the toilet if this is indeed the case.

Source: http://www.tv.com/hawaii-five-o/show...topics;title;6
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post #283 of 417
7/22/07 at 6:00pm

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I don't go by those with industry connections lucky enough to get advance copies. Sometimes they're right, but not always. I'll wait until I see it in the store.

Sometimes I wonder if "Bored She Hung Herself" was filmed but not actually aired and that the CBS airdate was scheduled but then pre-empted for something else instead. I say that because for Hawaii Five-0 always had 24 shows a year --- not 25. Only the horrible final season though was an exception with 19.
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post #284 of 417
7/22/07 at 6:08pm

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I can verify that "Bored She Hung Herself" exists as I have personally viewed a copy of it. It's poor quality and is 16MM but it is watchable. The episode itself is one of the worst of the series (outside of the season 12 episodes). It concerns a group of hippies who engage in recreational 'hanging' as a means of getting high. When one of them turns up dead and her boyfriend is believed responsible, McGarrett and his team are brought in to investigate and discover a lurid sexual mystery involving the young woman.

Bad acting, bad directing and bad writing combine to make this a truly bizarre and low-water mark for the series (even moreso considering someone opted to try the stupid hanging technique and ended up killing themselves, the reported reason that the episode never aired again).
That said, most fans have not seen it and deserve the opportunity to judge for themselves, even if it isn't remastered, which makes it all the more frustrating that CBS chose not to include it.
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post #285 of 417
7/22/07 at 6:38pm

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Very disappointing news. The episode should definitely have been included. I doubt missing or damaged elements were behind it. Elements for the 1st season episode "Six Kilos" seem to be damaged, yet that show was still included in the first season set. It was the worst looking episode in the set, but it was there. I'm sure if it came down to it, they could have found a 16mm copy of "Bored She Hung Herself" and included it.


Hopefully there will be enough of an outcry that if they continue with the series, they'll add the episode as a bonus to one of the future seasons.
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post #286 of 417
7/22/07 at 8:29pm

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I dont worry about 5-0 being edited. CBS/Paramount has been doing good work. I think anymore they put that on the box, just in case. I can just see someone suing if 30 seconds happened to be missing from an episode.
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post #287 of 417
7/23/07 at 2:59am

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I have updated my Five-O page with news of the banned episode still being banned. This is a major disappointment, to put it mildly. There is no reason why this episode could not be included in the DVD set with a typical "stern warning" prior to the show itself.

I don't know how many copies of this episode are floating around, but one I am aware of looks like it was projected on a wall and filmed with a camcorder. The original may be in the possession of a major Five-O fan I know who, as far as I am aware, owned (and may still own) a 16mm print of the episode.
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post #288 of 417
7/23/07 at 3:07am

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Elements for the 1st season episode "Six Kilos" seem to be damaged, yet that show was still included in the first season set.

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When I watched this show in the mid-1990's, Six Kilos was not included some times when the first season was broadcast in syndication. I have never been able to get an explanation as to why this was so. It was a "missing link" along with "Bored, She Hung Herself" -- more so, because one of the characters from Six Kilos was also in the Five-O prison siege episode "The Box," which should have been broadcast after Six Kilos, rather than before!
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post #289 of 417
7/23/07 at 8:04am

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As per the Paramount syndciation site, Six Kilos was not syndicated until recently.

As for Bored She Hung Herself not existing, that's idiotic. Of course it exists and is readily available in collectors' circles. All this means is that now anyone selling the show on 16mm or a copy of 16mm will now jack up their prices because anyone wanting the episode will be willing to pay for it.
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post #290 of 417
7/23/07 at 9:01am
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Is it simply possible that the family of the person who accidenatally hung him/her self have a legal agreement with Paramount that this episode will never see the light of day?
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post #291 of 417
7/23/07 at 9:26am

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Although I would have preferred to have the second season complete, I can also see why Paramount decided against including that one episode.
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post #292 of 417
7/23/07 at 6:06pm

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I have just updated the "turgid anal-ysis" on my WWW site with a synopsis of the plot for "Bored She Hung Herself" (note there is no comma after the word "Bored") plus the beginning and end credits (spoilers, obviously):

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log2.htm#39
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post #293 of 417
7/23/07 at 7:00pm

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Originally Posted by Mister-Mike
I have just updated the "turgid anal-ysis" on my WWW site with a synopsis of the plot for "Bored She Hung Herself" (note there is no comma after the word "Bored") plus the beginning and end credits (spoilers, obviously):

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log2.htm#39

Mike, you have a very informative and interesting Five-0 site. Great stuff!

Do you have any connection with Mrs. Freeman that you could perhaps ask her for any details about the banning of this show? The theory offered above about there being a legal settlement which included the shelving of this episode is the only one that makes sense to me.

I haven't seen the episode so I can't comment directly but given that Standards & Practices presumably gave their ok would indicate that this is not some gore fest and that "banning" it would be an over the top reaction. Surely virtually any episode of the Sopranos would have much more violence (and graphically presented) than a 1970 TV drama.

CBS/Paramount could have gotten a lot of leverage and sales by promoting the inclusion of an episode not seen in almost 40 years. I doubt the cost of restoring/remastering the original negative would have broken the budget for this set. That's why I'm inclined to agree there is some legal obstacle in the way.

Steve
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post #294 of 417
7/23/07 at 7:39pm

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What ever happened to "First Amendment Rights"?
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post #295 of 417
7/23/07 at 8:54pm

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Originally Posted by Regulus
What ever happened to "First Amendment Rights"?

Paramount can censor itself anytime it wants. It is not our God given right to even own the thing. I feel lucky to own what i do.
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post #296 of 417
7/23/07 at 9:13pm

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Originally Posted by RickER
Paramount can censor itself anytime it wants. It is not our God given right to even own the thing. I feel lucky to own what i do.

Here's another hitch: That if they'd kept the episode in, they'd have to go to a 7th DVD in the set. At least on the first season boxset, they were able to put the special about the series.
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post #297 of 417
7/24/07 at 10:16am

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Well, I'm in the UK and special praise must go to DVD Pacific as I've just received my boxset - one week ahead of its offical release in the states!!! Actually, very good service from this company as they did exactly the same for the season 1 release! Anyway, that aside, I can confirm whats been said i.e. 'Bored, She Hung Herself' isn't on this release - I'm disappointed and can only hope its released as a bonus feature on a future season boxset. As for 'extras' there is episodic promos - these promos i've never seen before, don't think they were shown in Britain, not on re runs at least! You can watch these as stand alone presentations or at the beggining of each episode - although I thought these were originally shown at the end of the episodes, can some one put me right here? Good quality and there is a statement on the back saying some episodes may be cut to those originally broadcast - again, not too happy about this...! Anyway, I gotta scoot, episode 1 awaits!!
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post #298 of 417
7/24/07 at 8:38pm

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Well, if "Bored She Hung Herself" were to turn up in the Season 3 set instead, that would be fine because the theme music doesn't change again until the 4th season (and that's a major improvement too).
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post #299 of 417
7/25/07 at 2:48am

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More likely it could appear as an extra with the 11th or 12th seasons (assuming the show gets that far, and I am not that optimistic), because neither of those seasons take up 24 hours worth of DVD time.
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post #300 of 417
7/26/07 at 9:07pm

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One of the first Season 2 DVD reviews is up at tvdvdreviews.com...

http://www.tvdvdreviews.com/hawaii502.html

It gets a big thumbs up despite the omission of "Bored She Hung Herself".
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