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I haven't made any message posts in this discussion thread in quite some time now because frankly I've only just completed viewing the entire VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA - SEASON ONE, VOLUME ONE 3-disc set and wanted to hold back on commenting until its completion.

All things considered I must say that I have nothing but praise for it!

My only real disappointment is that the unaired VOYAGE colour pilot episode "Eleven Days to Zero" (14/09/1964) didn't have the original opening title credits and that the next week previews of upcoming episodes featured in the first three segments aired weren't included but most importantly (contrary to what has been reported online) all of the episodes played just fine and the microcompression in this instance didn't pose any technical problems I'm relieved to report.

Indeed, both the VOYAGE and THE TIME TUNNEL tv series DVD sets have proved to be an absolute dream come true that (at least for myself) they will rank among the two best tv series releases of 2006 (unless of course THE INVADERS is pending sometime later this year as well).

I've only quickly glanced over the previous (recent) message posts made and for the benefit of those VOYAGE fans who were destressed about it the VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA - SEASON ONE, VOLUME ONE 3-disc set is due out on July 11th, 2006 so you have nothing to be concerned about.

I (for one) fully intend to purchase the entire series of both VOYAGE and THE TIME TUNNEL and it will be nice to finally put these two long sought after SF tv series aside so that I can now concentrate on other likely television properties for DVD like the aforementioned THE INVADERS (ABC 1967-68) something I fully intend to do.

The (apparent) success of both these classic Irwin Allen 1960s SF television shows (both of which I vigorously lobbied for in this discussion forum incidently as evinced by my message post history) only adds (considerable) weight to my argument for a DVD release of THE INVADERS.

In other words, SF in particular (despite its vintage) is very popular with the mainstream DVD consumer out there and has a guaranteed established market...most probably it's the single largest purchasing group!



Jeff T.

Gear mentioned in this thread:

Voyage to the Bottom of Sea: Season 2, Vol. 1
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea: Season One, Vol. 1
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Season 1 Vol. 2
post #392 of 1497
Nice post Jeff. While I'm not a Voyage/Time Tunnel fan anywhere near the to degree that you are....I love your fanmanship on here. You and Harry keep the Irwin Allen threads rolling....and these threads are certainly among my favorites to read.
post #393 of 1497
Gary OS, I wasn't intending to a do a MST3K on the second half of season 1. I was just wondering if I had to make fun of it during later seasons. There are some little plot holes and same plot elements used over and over for the first half of season 1. As for TT, The first half of the series was better than the second half (when it started to feature aliens and Merlin).
post #394 of 1497
opening title credits for the VOYAGE colour pilot episode "Eleven Days to Zero" (14/09/1964) didn't have the original opening title credits


Regarding the color pilot, does anyone know if the VHS release from Columbia House featured the correct opening titles? Also, how does one recognize the color pilots' correct opening titles vs. what is on the DVD release?
post #395 of 1497
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That's more like it!

I'm sorry that I didn't respond to your inquiry earlier Mark but I wanted to edit my previous message post first...which reads much better now!

I bought all 5 VHS tapes in the Columbia House mail subscription VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA (ABC 1964-68) collector's edition series but they're still factory sealed and unopened so I can't actually answer your question with any certainty but I've never heard anyone complain about them or mention descrepancies with any of the 10 episodes in this set so I have to assume that the correct opening title credits were used for the video transfer of the unaired "Eleven Days to Zero" (14/09/1964) colour pilot in this particular instance.

Jeff T.
post #396 of 1497
Counting the days till we get the rest of Season 1 on dvd.

Gary "I hope people who review this second set at Amazon give it a good rating because I sincerely believe the poor ratings given to set 1, due only to bad discs and not bad episodes, caused the show to lag behind 'Time Tunnel' in Amazon's sales ranking - if not for the poor ratings it would have done much better at that particular online site, of this I am positive!" O.
post #397 of 1497
I think Voyage did better at the retail level than TT. Voyage was available at
Walmart as well as the usual outlets whereas TT was not carried by Walmart in their stores. My local Walmart sold at least 6 copies of Voyage.
post #398 of 1497
I had such a blast watching through both Time Tunnel and Voyage (especially Voyage!). It was a lot of fun revisiting the episodes and seeing them in their complete form and looking so good. It was made even better by being able to enjoy talking about them with folks on here and over at TrekBBS (where Harry N and I talked about it as well). Where I used to believe I was the only one who still loved the show, the internet has made it possible to enjoy the DVDs with other similar-minded fans. Still haven't convinced the gf to watch an episode with me. She saw part of one on VHS once and thought it was dopey. What does she know!?!
post #399 of 1497
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Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

Well both VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA and THE TIME TUNNEL must have performed satisfactorily enough to warrant volume 2 DVD set releases so that's what really counts.

VOYAGE is (particularly) interesting in that some marginal series fans will only purchase the first season (1964-65) black-and-white sets while others are still holding out for the colour seasons to be released.

One (certainly) can't fault the nicely done packaging designs (produced for volume one and two) so it's really up to the tv series now to successfully prove itself to the mainstream DVD consumer market out there.

I know of one local downtown retail store that had 12 copies of the VOYAGE volume one set and the entire supply completely sold out very quickly subsequently being replaced by another dozen! Even LOST IN SPACE didn't do that well at the same store.

I was one of those who initially criticized the VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA - SEASON ONE, VOLUME ONE 3-disc box set sight unseen because of my apprehension about the microcompression done on a trio of doublesided disc pressings but I'm (very) pleased to report that I was dead wrong about this as everything played just fine.

I think that in the case of VOYAGE it will do sufficiently well enough that we will (indeed) see all four (fun filled) seasons ultimately made available.

So have faith in that. The future really looks bright indeed!

Jeff T.
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Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

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Originally Posted by JeffT.
Well both VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA and THE TIME TUNNEL must have performed satisfactorily enough to warrant volume 2 DVD set releases so that's what really counts.

You said it! This was a series that I wasn't sure of buying since I don't remember hardly any of the eps from their original airings. I just fnished "The Sky Is Falling" yesterday. Neat series! Thanks for your posts here at HTF - it helped me decide on getting this one.
post #401 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jeff Willis
You said it! This was a series that I wasn't sure of buying since I don't remember hardly any of the eps from their original airings. I just fnished "The Sky Is Falling" yesterday. Neat series! Thanks for your posts here at HTF - it helped me decide on getting this one.

Thanks for that info Jeff. It's really nice to know that our [the folks on this particular thread] enthusiasm for the series helped you make the decision to buy. I feel equally confident that you will absolutely love the rest of Season 1. As I've said many times before, I think this first season of VOYAGE represents the finest of all the IA series, bar none.

Gary "can't wait for this second set so I can enjoy some more priceless and compelling episodes from a priceless and compelling 1st Season of VTTBOTS" O.
post #402 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

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I feel equally confident that you will absolutely love the rest of Season 1.

Fans will dicker, but IMO there are four 4-star episodes in the first half of S1 and 4 in the remaining half:

"The Fear-Makers"
"The Mist of Silence"
"Submarine Sunk Here"
"The Ghost of Moby Dick"

vs.

"Mutiny"
"Doomsday"
"The Enemies"
"The Condemned"
post #403 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

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Originally Posted by michael_ks
Fans will dicker, but IMO there are four 4-star episodes in the first half of S1 and 4 in the remaining half:

"The Fear-Makers"
"The Mist of Silence"
"Submarine Sunk Here"
"The Ghost of Moby Dick"

vs.

"Mutiny"
"Doomsday"
"The Enemies"
"The Condemned"

I guess I will have to disagree a tad with that assessment, because I'd give "The Invaders" (w/Robert Duval) a 4 Star rating along with the others you mentioned. On top of that "The Exile", "Secret of the Loch" and "The Traitor" are all close to 4 Star episodes, IMHO.

Gary "of course, I'd give just about every episode in that first season either a 3 or 4 - there just weren't many clunkers" O.
post #404 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

This morning I looked up VTTBOTS vol. 2 on Amazon, wanting to see if they had posted an image of the cover (which they did). Anyway, look at what I came across--a complete guide to all four IA series! To be released this November. At $65.00 it's pricey, but hey, I'm there:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078...Fencoding=UTF8
post #405 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

I might buy Season 2 part one, but I remember as a kid not liking the changes at all-the reworked Seaview-new windows and it looked like it had a case of the mumps-the sonar domes on each side-and the Flying sub, while cool, well, lets just say no matter how advanced engineering was in 1986 (the future, at that time) when any ship dives straight into the water from 10,000 feet like it did, BAM! there would be no more flying sub. End of discussion-even if it was science fiction.
Now the Seaviews windows could be logically forgiven-they were supposedly sheets of a see-through steel and plastic combination material called Herculite®-invented by Admiral Nelson himself! And those season 2 "Crash Doors"-they didnt look exactly water tight to me-
And of course none of the architecture changes made sense-the control room up front, yet the periscope was way back midship on the "sail"
and of course, how could ther have been a control /view room if a docking bay was needed for the Flying Sub.
And the missle room-with 4 missle tubes out of a probable 16-and when they shot torpedos from there-the back end-they came from the front of the sub!
Even as a kid, those things bothered me.
And for the Seaview-it looked like they mostly used the smaller models-using constant stock shots.
Except for surface shots-where they may have used the larger model-it still didnt look quite right to me.
Maybe black and white covered sense of scale flaws, but the sub looked like a smaller model-it had no scale-and instead of shooting in Fox's lake, where the water was realistically murky, and there was some fake or real underwater terrain, the second season had the sub sittiing in clear blue water because they used Foxes water tank-so the water was always crystal clear, and you could see the moving sunlight patterns on the wall of the tank in the background. It to me just looked like a model ship sitting in a swimming pool.
It also felt like they had a smaller budget-the same camera setups, few or no new "areas" (I wonder why we never saw an engine room-oh well)
I dearly loved VTTBOTS on its first season.
Oh well, I eagerly await S1 box 2 and maybe S2, box 1;
If you are reading this FOX, consider a box that will fit ALL of Season one in it. or better yet give it the DVD9 treatment like Lost in Space Season one got
Im aliitle worried about the longevity of these Mexican made DVD 18s youre using. Sorry for the rant-just drank a vodka tonic.
post #406 of 1497
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Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!



Well with any tv series one really has to take the good with the bad but yes, there are definitely some (atrociously) reprehensible aspects to VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA (ABC 1964-68) that really can't be excused.

Maybe the (overwhelming) responsibilities of managing 3 high profile SF themed tv series at the same time (during the 1966-67 television season) started to take its (devasting) toll on Irwin Allen to the extent that he could no longer distinguish quality from trash! Who knows?!

But VOYAGE's second season (1965-66) can well hold its own with the best of the first (1964-65) and is a fine follow up in its own right. I wouldn't underestimate its (genuine) merit...especially when one has the opportunity to see these colour episodes presented in all their fully restored and digitally remastered pristine glory. I think this more than anything that is said here will (ultimately) convince you of this!

Naturally I would have liked to have seen VOYAGE maintain the exacting standards of the first two seasons but it's clear that by the third season the show was being directed more toward a younger aged viewing demographic to its ultimate detriment.

As far as the Seaview itself is concerned I have no problem with this futuristic undersea craft's revised look as it reflected a more advanced, modern (structural) appearance evincing that at least some (credible) effort was made to (inventively) improve certain aspects of the show...which was already excellent to begin with!

And of course there was the addition of the Flying Sub!

This is in direct contrast to the Enterprise seen on STAR TREK (NBC 1966-69) which pretty much utilized the same establishing stock shots of the starship in planetary orbit throughout the series' entire 3 year run.

As I said in a previous message post there are some marginal fans who will only purchase the first season black-and-white episodes while others are still holding out for the later seasons produced in colour. In the final analysis it's really all a matter of personal taste and preference.

Myself I'm committed to the entire tv series. Even in the (generally) lesser third (1966-67) and (even less distinguished) fourth (1967-68) seasons there are still episodes of interest (to be found) and the cost per set is so economical that this makes it all worth while...considering how many hours of entertainment one is getting for the reasonable price!

Jeff T.
post #407 of 1497
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THE VOYAGE 'SEASON ONE' VOLUME TWO PACKAGING DESIGN!!!!!



This discussion thread has been dormant for way too long now!

Take note of the intended packaging design for the upcoming VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA - SEASON ONE, VOLUME TWO 3-disc set due out on July 11th, 2006.

The glass nose of the Seaview has now been modified to eight windows (appropriately) befitting the super atomic submarine of the future (1973) as it was seen in the first season (1964-65) episodes.

Neat-o! That should quell some concerns on the part of this classic Irwin Allen 1960s SF tv series' enthusiasts.

Looking better all the time!

Jeff T.
post #408 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

Looks good!
While it's irritating when they goof things up like the cover on the volume 1 set, ultimately it's a minor nit to me. I have Voyage on DVD looking better than it ever has and unedited! They could put a picture of Ashlee Simpson giving a thumbs up on the cover and I wouldn't care.

Ok, it might be a little irritating, but I'd live as long as the eps were there.
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Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

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Take note of the intended packaging design for the upcoming VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA - SEASON ONE, VOLUME TWO

I just now did and noticed something odd. The spine is that of S1, vol 1. I wonder if that means that David Hedison's photo might still grace the bottom of the spine after all. Also, did Capt. Crane sport a pistol like object in the first season as is shown on the cover? Just what is that thing?
post #410 of 1497
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Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

The formidable weapon that Captain Crane (David Hedison) is seen handling on the packaging design of the VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA - SEASON ONE, VOLUME TWO 3-disc set is a laser pistol that wasn't introduced until the third season (1966-67) and Admiral Nelson (Richard Basehart) wasn't a four star officer until the second season (1965-66) .

So the artwork is still not perfect but serviceable enough.



The big countdown for the July 11th, 2006 release date is underway!

Jeff T.
post #411 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

...and Fox still haven't announced either series for r2 - just dreck like Prison Break and 24 (in October!). At least we've seen the end of the endless Buffy/Angel churns, for now I suppose.


I was hoping we'd see an announcement for Time Tunnel release in July or maybe August. I suppose there's time yet, but this is getting very annoying.

I'd buy the r1's except they're on those crummy flipper discs, and exchanging duff discs is a pain when you have to ship stuff back ad forwards across the Atlantic.
post #412 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

well, in the UK Fox has released the Lost In Space by season box, with one sided DVD9s. gold star for them.
I notice that the UK OUTER LIMITS BOX is 8 discs, one sided dvd9-and it vastly cheaper to buy than here! gold star for MGM-some noted compression problems on cramming them onto 4 dvd 18s
I would buy a UK one season VOYAGE box, especially if they were DVD9
post #413 of 1497

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That's why I'm waiting for an r2 edition.

DVD-18 discs are rare here - WB's Wonder Woman sets are one of the few that are 18's here as well as the US. Most things turn into DVD9's, for example, stuff that Universal are doing is on DVD9. WHich is why I'm buying the r2's of The Munsters.

It looks as though the r2 release of the complete Kolchak will be single discs, too, looking at the price.

I keept hoping that Fox would announce Time Tunnel for July or August - a complete set following the release of the second half in r1 in June, no sign yet.
post #414 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Richard_Gregory
That's why I'm waiting for an r2 edition.

DVD-18 discs are rare here - WB's Wonder Woman sets are one of the few that are 18's here as well as the US. Most things turn into DVD9's, for example, stuff that Universal are doing is on DVD9. WHich is why I'm buying the r2's of The Munsters.

It looks as though the r2 release of the complete Kolchak will be single discs, too, looking at the price.

I keept hoping that Fox would announce Time Tunnel for July or August - a complete set following the release of the second half in r1 in June, no sign yet.

VTTBOTS is released on DVD-14's and not DVD-18's
post #415 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

I don't remember this series. But I am a fan of Firefly, and SG-1. Would everyone recomend that I buy this series? Is it that good?
post #416 of 1497

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Originally Posted by jaredIS
I don't remember this series. But I am a fan of Firefly, and SG-1. Would everyone recomend that I buy this series? Is it that good?

It doesn't really compare to either series you mentioned the closest modern series would be Seaquest but thats not fair to VTTBOTS as its much better than Seaquest although I do like Seaquest. Voyage also changed along the way. The 1st two Seasons are much more serious and rooted in Cold War spy stories as well as sci-fi stories while the 3rd and 4th seasons became more like Lost in Space with monster of the week plots. All 4 seasons are enjoyable for different reasons though. Hope that helps.
post #417 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

Well, it's my holy grail, so yes...it's that good! Alot is going to depend on how open you are to a B&W show from the middle 1960s. For my money, the casting of Richard Basehart together with David Hedison was just about the greatest pairing of actors I've ever come across in episodic television. There was enormous potential there for the series to out perform Star Trek's Shatner/Nimoy ensemble but sadly this was not fully realized as 'Voyage' began degrading in quality by the third season.

Still, the first two seasons (second in color) are exceptional for the two stars and the brilliant miniatures (both in design and execution). "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" has its legions of fans for 40 years running who are fond of what the series was and lament the incredible potential it failed to live up to. Fans like me often imagine what a stellar series this would have been in the sci-fi/adventure tv canon had Irwin Allen been more like a Gene Roddenberry or Leslie Stevens.
post #418 of 1497

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Originally Posted by Randy Korstick
VTTBOTS is released on DVD-14's and not DVD-18's

Yep, I know - but they're still multiple layer flippers. Dual layer on one side. And the Amazon reviews are full of people complaining about playback glitches!

Oddly enough it seems to be VTTBOTS rather than TT that is generating the complaints. Are the TT discs 14's as well?
post #419 of 1497

Re: When are We going to see a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea DVD Release?!!!!!

I did experience a playback problem myself on "Turn Back the Clock" during the diving bell descent sequence. On two separate players it stops and forwards about 15-20 seconds. I believe disc two, which this episode is featured on has shown to the one and only disc affected. An annoyance, nonetheless. I experienced no problems with TT and yet I'm almost certain these must be DVD-14s as well.
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Originally Posted by Richard_Gregory
Yep, I know - but they're still multiple layer flippers. Dual layer on one side. And the Amazon reviews are full of people complaining about playback glitches!

Oddly enough it seems to be VTTBOTS rather than TT that is generating the complaints. Are the TT discs 14's as well?

Really I didn't see alot of playback complaints on this forum unlike DVD-18's which had plenty. Although I have had no playback issues with either. I have only had problems with 4 DVD's and they were all DVD-9's.
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