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post #121 of 614
6/22/04 at 10:29am
Who has the best online price for this unit?
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post #122 of 614
6/22/04 at 11:58am
You can order it from Gochnauer Home Appliances and Electronics for $160 shipped.
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post #123 of 614
6/22/04 at 11:58am
You can order it from Gochnauer Home Appliances and Electronics for $160 shipped.
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post #124 of 614
6/22/04 at 3:04pm
Anyone here buy from them? How was their service?
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post #125 of 614
6/22/04 at 3:04pm
Anyone here buy from them? How was their service?
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post #126 of 614
6/22/04 at 3:43pm
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What type of display are you using?

Steve,
I'm using a Panasonic PTWX4753(I think that's the model number, I'm having a senior moment right now, and I'm only 39). Anyway, the picture looks great, better than the RP82.
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post #127 of 614
6/22/04 at 3:43pm
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What type of display are you using?

Steve,
I'm using a Panasonic PTWX4753(I think that's the model number, I'm having a senior moment right now, and I'm only 39). Anyway, the picture looks great, better than the RP82.
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post #128 of 614
6/22/04 at 4:03pm
Anyone here buy from them? How was their service?

My order with them shipped the same day it was placed and I had the player 2 days later. They were very helpful answering my questions and followed up on the sale with an unsolicited email asking if I was happy with the purchase. Pretty good customer service. You can also read up on other DVB318 buying experiences with them in this thread at AVS Forum. I warn you though, it's L-O-N-G.
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post #129 of 614
6/22/04 at 4:03pm
Anyone here buy from them? How was their service?

My order with them shipped the same day it was placed and I had the player 2 days later. They were very helpful answering my questions and followed up on the sale with an unsolicited email asking if I was happy with the purchase. Pretty good customer service. You can also read up on other DVB318 buying experiences with them in this thread at AVS Forum. I warn you though, it's L-O-N-G.
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post #130 of 614
6/22/04 at 5:00pm
Todd, I purchased mine from Gochnauer's. It's a sorta convoluted procedure as you're supposed to first ask for an e-mail price quote then order either online or over the phone. My price was also $160 including FedEx ground shipment all the way from Pennsylvania to CA.

They get them in batches and don't always have them physically in stock--I had to wait a few days for a batch to come in, then received an e-mail that it had shipped including a FedEx tracking number.

The player arrived about a week and a half after I ordered it (took 3 days for my "batch" to arrive at the store).

Larry,
I've read the entire 3226 post thread over at AVS and come to the conclusion that the best results are achieved with a crt based display using component inputs, like yours.

I did watch special features on it--stopped the disc, got up and hit the conversion switch twice to get 480p, and proceeded as I would have with my Panasonic CP-72. I did not notice any color bleeding or combing associated with poor de-interlacing of video based material. It was a bit less convenient than being able to do it with a remote but I need the exercise, and the hassle is more than made up for with the ability to scale non-anamorphic widescreen (that you CAN do with the remote)
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post #131 of 614
6/22/04 at 5:00pm
Todd, I purchased mine from Gochnauer's. It's a sorta convoluted procedure as you're supposed to first ask for an e-mail price quote then order either online or over the phone. My price was also $160 including FedEx ground shipment all the way from Pennsylvania to CA.

They get them in batches and don't always have them physically in stock--I had to wait a few days for a batch to come in, then received an e-mail that it had shipped including a FedEx tracking number.

The player arrived about a week and a half after I ordered it (took 3 days for my "batch" to arrive at the store).

Larry,
I've read the entire 3226 post thread over at AVS and come to the conclusion that the best results are achieved with a crt based display using component inputs, like yours.

I did watch special features on it--stopped the disc, got up and hit the conversion switch twice to get 480p, and proceeded as I would have with my Panasonic CP-72. I did not notice any color bleeding or combing associated with poor de-interlacing of video based material. It was a bit less convenient than being able to do it with a remote but I need the exercise, and the hassle is more than made up for with the ability to scale non-anamorphic widescreen (that you CAN do with the remote)
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post #132 of 614
6/22/04 at 5:48pm
FYI

The HT Secrets guy that posts on AVS says they have a new review almost ready - it's going to have the Zenith in it (which he mentioned in another thread that they did find a few problems with it), as well as a couple other upscaling players.

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In the beginning of July we will have a benchmark test of a ton of players under $300, so you might want to keep an eye out for that. The new benchmark that goes up this week (fingers crossed!!) will have quite a few in that range as well including the aforementioned Zenith, the new Pioneer, Samsung, and Toshiba universals and some others.
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post #133 of 614
6/22/04 at 5:48pm
FYI

The HT Secrets guy that posts on AVS says they have a new review almost ready - it's going to have the Zenith in it (which he mentioned in another thread that they did find a few problems with it), as well as a couple other upscaling players.

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In the beginning of July we will have a benchmark test of a ton of players under $300, so you might want to keep an eye out for that. The new benchmark that goes up this week (fingers crossed!!) will have quite a few in that range as well including the aforementioned Zenith, the new Pioneer, Samsung, and Toshiba universals and some others.
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post #134 of 614
6/22/04 at 6:06pm
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The HT Secrets guy that posts on AVS says they have a new review almost ready - it's going to have the Zenith in it (which he mentioned in another thread that they did find a few problems with it), as well as a couple other upscaling players.


Maybe, but this is a proven model and its resolution is what everyone is buying it for. I am sure newer more expensive models will have more features though.
THANKS for the tips guys, I sent them an email...
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post #135 of 614
6/22/04 at 6:06pm
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The HT Secrets guy that posts on AVS says they have a new review almost ready - it's going to have the Zenith in it (which he mentioned in another thread that they did find a few problems with it), as well as a couple other upscaling players.


Maybe, but this is a proven model and its resolution is what everyone is buying it for. I am sure newer more expensive models will have more features though.
THANKS for the tips guys, I sent them an email...
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post #136 of 614
6/22/04 at 7:22pm
I picked up the LG player this afternoon and am blown away so far. I've been having a real hard time finding a DVD player I like.

I started with a Sony DVP-725. It had a VERY soft picture and the chroma bug. Then I picked up the Harmon Kardon DVD22. It has a very sharp image, but bad combing issues randomly appear while watching movies. I then looked at the Denon 910 and it looked pretty much like th Sony, but no chroma bug.

The LG produces an extremely sharp image on my Toshiba 46HX83. I think this is the player I'll be keeping for a while. Every disk I throw in looks terrific.

The only wierd thing with the player is that I had my overscan at about 3% for the sides of the image on the other DVD players. With the LG, the DVE overscan pattern shows 5% on the sides. Any settings in the DVD player to adjust this? I don't think it's my TV as I believe the service mode settings change all resolutions.

If anyone has the Pronto IR code for switching upconversion settings, I'd really appreciate if you'd post it! Also, I'd be intrested in any tweaks which my be available (I've already seen the Zenith 318 thread at AVS).
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post #137 of 614
6/22/04 at 7:22pm
I picked up the LG player this afternoon and am blown away so far. I've been having a real hard time finding a DVD player I like.

I started with a Sony DVP-725. It had a VERY soft picture and the chroma bug. Then I picked up the Harmon Kardon DVD22. It has a very sharp image, but bad combing issues randomly appear while watching movies. I then looked at the Denon 910 and it looked pretty much like th Sony, but no chroma bug.

The LG produces an extremely sharp image on my Toshiba 46HX83. I think this is the player I'll be keeping for a while. Every disk I throw in looks terrific.

The only wierd thing with the player is that I had my overscan at about 3% for the sides of the image on the other DVD players. With the LG, the DVE overscan pattern shows 5% on the sides. Any settings in the DVD player to adjust this? I don't think it's my TV as I believe the service mode settings change all resolutions.

If anyone has the Pronto IR code for switching upconversion settings, I'd really appreciate if you'd post it! Also, I'd be intrested in any tweaks which my be available (I've already seen the Zenith 318 thread at AVS).
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post #138 of 614
6/22/04 at 8:33pm
FYI-the link mentioned above still has them for the price mentioned, shipped too, not in stock, but shortly...thanks!


BTW-what cabling will I need to get the best pic with this setup?

PLMK
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post #139 of 614
6/22/04 at 8:33pm
FYI-the link mentioned above still has them for the price mentioned, shipped too, not in stock, but shortly...thanks!


BTW-what cabling will I need to get the best pic with this setup?

PLMK
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post #140 of 614
6/23/04 at 11:13am
So you say that the DVB318 is better than the LiteOn-2001?
Well that's good news for me, as I've been somewhat unhappy with the ergonomics of the 2001, and am always happy to get better picture quality out of my DVDs.

Is there any hope of someone coming out with a comparable unit that's a 5 (or more) disk changer in the near future? I'd be willing to wait awhile for something to come out in the fall, but if it's not in the cards then the DVB318 sounds right up my ally. Hopefully these won't disappear as quickly as the LO-2001 did back in it's day.

Also, are there discrete on/off codes for the DVB318? It sounds like there is a (hidden) code to switch scan rate, I assume that that's not available as a set of discretes?
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post #141 of 614
6/23/04 at 11:13am
So you say that the DVB318 is better than the LiteOn-2001?
Well that's good news for me, as I've been somewhat unhappy with the ergonomics of the 2001, and am always happy to get better picture quality out of my DVDs.

Is there any hope of someone coming out with a comparable unit that's a 5 (or more) disk changer in the near future? I'd be willing to wait awhile for something to come out in the fall, but if it's not in the cards then the DVB318 sounds right up my ally. Hopefully these won't disappear as quickly as the LO-2001 did back in it's day.

Also, are there discrete on/off codes for the DVB318? It sounds like there is a (hidden) code to switch scan rate, I assume that that's not available as a set of discretes?
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post #142 of 614
6/23/04 at 6:41pm
David, the LVD-2001 didn't really disappear, it is now being sold as the Norcent DP-501M. They are exactly the same except for badging, and a little bit higher price (around $165 to $200 depending where you look).
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post #143 of 614
6/23/04 at 6:41pm
David, the LVD-2001 didn't really disappear, it is now being sold as the Norcent DP-501M. They are exactly the same except for badging, and a little bit higher price (around $165 to $200 depending where you look).
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post #144 of 614
6/23/04 at 9:55pm
Are there settings in the menu that should be avoided, or should be used? I am using 1080i via component. Also, how do you do code upgrades and such?
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post #145 of 614
6/23/04 at 9:55pm
Are there settings in the menu that should be avoided, or should be used? I am using 1080i via component. Also, how do you do code upgrades and such?
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post #146 of 614
6/24/04 at 9:24am
Anyone here buy from them? How was their service?


While they got the unit out quickly and it was inexpensive like the others said (around 160 shipped was my price), I had an issue with my first unit where it would only output a picture through the S-Video outputs on the unit (no Component or DVI output would work at all). I called them up and basically they did NADA to help you get this returned back to them for an exchange. I instead had gotten a brand new DVD player and had to deal with Zenith on it which was a 4 week process to get a new one. That is NOT what I was expecting from Gochnauer's after getting a faulty unit from them. Most companies worth their salt will at the very least issue you a RMA number and allow you to ship the unit back to them in the original box and then once they got it back send you a replacement unit. This was not the case with Gochnauer's.

While I enjoyed their price on the unit, I would not deal with them again or recommend them to anyone due to the poor handling of this issue when I got a faulty unit. Can you imagine buying something from Best Buy and it not working and instead of trading you out for a working model they referred you only to the manufacturer? That's essentially what happened to me.
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post #147 of 614
6/24/04 at 9:24am
Anyone here buy from them? How was their service?


While they got the unit out quickly and it was inexpensive like the others said (around 160 shipped was my price), I had an issue with my first unit where it would only output a picture through the S-Video outputs on the unit (no Component or DVI output would work at all). I called them up and basically they did NADA to help you get this returned back to them for an exchange. I instead had gotten a brand new DVD player and had to deal with Zenith on it which was a 4 week process to get a new one. That is NOT what I was expecting from Gochnauer's after getting a faulty unit from them. Most companies worth their salt will at the very least issue you a RMA number and allow you to ship the unit back to them in the original box and then once they got it back send you a replacement unit. This was not the case with Gochnauer's.

While I enjoyed their price on the unit, I would not deal with them again or recommend them to anyone due to the poor handling of this issue when I got a faulty unit. Can you imagine buying something from Best Buy and it not working and instead of trading you out for a working model they referred you only to the manufacturer? That's essentially what happened to me.
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post #148 of 614
6/24/04 at 5:17pm

A question re: Zenith 318 upscaling player

I posted this over at AVS and haven't gotten any responses there yet so maybe someone experienced can help me here...here goes


So in looking through this mammoth thread...the player can do 1080i through the components? I am thinking of getting this as I have a panny ptl200u projector and currently watch a lot of HD (yes I know the projector has resolution limits and 1080i sources do have some issues--but they still look incredible sans the limitations). What do you guys think of getting this with the projector I mentioned...will the pq be similar to what I'm accustomed to seeing in HD 1080i sources? I could live with the limitations of my projector if it means that dvd's will look as good as HD programs do. (By the way I view on a 96 inch screen).


Anyone have any ideas? What about the Samsungs with the Faroudija processors--would they be better????
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post #149 of 614
6/24/04 at 5:17pm

A question re: Zenith 318 upscaling player

I posted this over at AVS and haven't gotten any responses there yet so maybe someone experienced can help me here...here goes


So in looking through this mammoth thread...the player can do 1080i through the components? I am thinking of getting this as I have a panny ptl200u projector and currently watch a lot of HD (yes I know the projector has resolution limits and 1080i sources do have some issues--but they still look incredible sans the limitations). What do you guys think of getting this with the projector I mentioned...will the pq be similar to what I'm accustomed to seeing in HD 1080i sources? I could live with the limitations of my projector if it means that dvd's will look as good as HD programs do. (By the way I view on a 96 inch screen).


Anyone have any ideas? What about the Samsungs with the Faroudija processors--would they be better????
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post #150 of 614
6/24/04 at 6:16pm
yes, it can do 1080i via component. PQ on my crt based HD-ready rptv when watching film based material is close to but not equal to the same movie on HBO-HD or Showtime HD, but not close to video based HD stuff from HDNet, Discovery HD, or INHD.

I'm not at all familiar with your pj, and am assuming it's an lcd or dlp unit. I've waded thru the entire thread over at AVS and results with fixed pixel displays vary widely. That being said, if your pj handles 1080i from an HDTV tuner box well it should also work well with the DVB-318.

You will have to switch the Zenith to 480p for 4/3 stuff if your pj locks into widescreen mode when fed 1080i, and some people have reported color bleeding at 480p though I've seen none at 480p with my crt based display. One guy in particular with an Infocus pj is reporting bad color bleeding at 480p. For non-anamorphic widescreen you can do a vertical-only zoom with the player that looks very nice, and leave it at 1080i.

The Zenith does have the Faroudja dcdi chip.
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