Lindsay Lohan - Page 30

Nobody made her go into a court of law with "Fuck U" on her fingernails.  That's what gets me to call her a loser scumbag.  She's straight up sober and thinks that's a good idea?  I don't know if she's one of these "it's hard being a celebrity with the press following me around all the time" types or not, but it's really easy to avoid that.  Do your job and then go home.  If you have to party like a rock star, do it in a private place.  There are more female stars we *don't* know every detail about their lives than those we do.  They're not saints.  Just figure out how they do it and do it.

What makes you think she was "straight-up sober"?  According to a probation report leaked to the press, the list of pharmaceuticals she's allowed to ingest includes dilaudid (an opiate) and Adderall (an amphetamine.)  (She's also on at least one anti-depressent and who-knows-what else.)  She may not be drinking, but she's hardly sober.  I'm not sure she ever has been.  This quote, if true, is heart-breaking - and makes you wonder WTF is wrong with her parents:

"The defendant indicates she has been on the same prescription medication for as long as she can remember."

Read more here.   

So yeah, she's a narcissistic cry-baby, a spoiled brat and a pill-head in addition to being a drunk, but she had some help digging the hole she's in, and with any luck she'll get some help pulling herself up out of it. 

Regards,

Joe

Personally, I don't know how anyone can think that she is "hot". Who knows what she actually looks like, because she never looks the same twice. Peel off all that make-up and the result might have a person running for the door. She's been fucked up for a long time and I doubt any rehab will have an effect. Some people are just destined to kill themselves at too young an age and she looks like she fits all the prerequisites for that category. I just hope if or when she does it that she doesn't take someone else along with her.

Maybe Katherine Jenkins (mentioned on the previous page) has more in common with Lilo than we thought:

Looks like she'll be checking in to a rehab place just a few miles from me...oh boy.

http://pedrowatcher.ocregister.com/2010/07/30/lindsay-lohan-to-head-to-o-c-after-jail/24929/

I can't believe they're allowing her 24 hours between her early jail release and the start of her rehab clinic. She'll have an entire day to coke it up or whatever else she does. Unbelievable.

A new interview/photos for the new issue of Vanity Fair:

What have I said all along?  She's a young girl who needs someone to mentor her--show her the way.  She needs to learn how to make the right decisions.  There's still time.

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Originally Posted by Rob FM 

When is Ali (little sister) going to make her mark on Hollywood?

It probably won't be too much longer, Rob.

Meanwhile, the star of our thread is in a #1 movie in the US:

^ Lindsay's body double is nude in Machete too.

You say that like it's a bad thing... 

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon 

You say that like it's a bad thing... 

Well, maybe a "not as good thing" as actual Lindsay nudity would have been.  I must say I thought she looked pretty good in last month's Maxim, even allowing for make-up and lighting all all that.  I'm pulling for her to recover and get healthy - and then get naked in a movie. 

Regards,

Joe

Why, Joe!  Those photos rival the Vanity Fair pic I posted earlier. 

But never fear, there will be those detractors just around the corner who will hasten to rain on our parade. 

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Those freckles...

Did everybody see Jerry Lewis's recent comments about La Lohan.  He said he like to give her a smack in the mouth, and then went on to say he'd like to turn her over his knee and give her a good spanking. 

Well, Jerry, I'm with you on the spanking,

but when it comes to giving her a smack in the mouth, I'd definitely go with a different noun.

Regards,

Joe 

Overexposed I think, But it 's not the problem. Most of star now involve in some scandal. This is normal action. Why do you bring LiLo to example?

I might break my longstanding rule of not watching Oprah if Lindsay makes an appearance.

The Today Show is also making a play for the first "post jailhouse" interview.

Then again, I'll probably be busy doing something more meaningful with my life--like cleaning out my gutters.  But, maybe not. 

Any pics of her from the MTV awards?

Or were they "meh"

Wow. That didn't take long.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/09/18/lindsay.lohan.drugs/index.html?hpt=Sbin

I feel bad for anyone that is addicted to drugs (despite that they did it to themselves) but I'm so sick of people saying drug or alcohol addiction is a disease. I'm sure it's hard to kick, I'm sure I'd have just as hard of a time quitting, I'm sure it's even harder with many people watching you hoping that you'll fail but it's not a disease. Saying that is a disease is just a way to take some of the blame off of yourself and while that probably makes an addict feel better (which probably make things a little easier for them), it's still self-delusion.

Travis: 

Is it possible you've never spent any time around people suffering from drug, alcohol or nicotine addictions?

There is nothing "self-delusional" about the realities of addiction.  Self-inflicted, perhaps.  But the interaction of these substances with the human body is documented and real.

Alcoholism and substance abuse may not conform to the expected definition of a "disease"...but they are an assault on the proper function of the human body and require treatment which is often difficult to be effective.  In fact, they are a disease in need of a lifetime of constant treatment and attention.

Be careful about condemning others before you have walked in their shoes, or at least know a little bit more about what they are going through. 

Anyone I know who is a recovering alcoholic or a former smoker is a hero to me and it is an accomplishment that shows personal fortitude and true effort.  While many of them don't like to talk about their problems I always tell them that I consider their success to be something to be proud of. 

Substance abuse is a most difficult thing indeed and while addicts might engage in a number of different behaviors while under the influence it is a mistake to say it is not a disease.

If they'd lock her away for her full sentence, or force her into rehab for more than a couple days, maybe she'd get the message. As long as they let her keep avoiding any consequences, she'll never change.

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon 

Travis: 

 

Is it possible you've never spent any time around people suffering from drug, alcohol or nicotine addictions?

 

There is nothing "self-delusional" about the realities of addiction.  Self-inflicted, perhaps.  But the interaction of these substances with the human body is documented and real.

 

Alcoholism and substance abuse may not conform to the expected definition of a "disease"...but they are an assault on the proper function of the human body and require treatment which is often difficult to be effective.  In fact, they are a disease in need of a lifetime of constant treatment and attention.

 

Be careful about condemning others before you have walked in their shoes, or at least know a little bit more about what they are going through. 

 

Anyone I know who is a recovering alcoholic or a former smoker is a hero to me and it is an accomplishment that shows personal fortitude and true effort.  While many of them don't like to talk about their problems I always tell them that I consider their success to be something to be proud of. 

 

Substance abuse is a most difficult thing indeed and while addicts might engage in a number of different behaviors while under the influence it is a mistake to say it is not a disease.

By no means am I saying that addiction is something that is easy to overcome or that an addict deserves to be kicked when they're down but addiction is not cancer or AIDS or Parkinson's either. I have all the sympathy in the world for people who have an addiction (especially in Lohan's case when it's something as serious as cocaine) and people that overcome drug or alcohol addiction deserve credit because I can't even imagine how incredibly hard it is to overcome something like that and it will most likely be a life-long battle for them. I'm certainly not saying to toss them in jail because jail might dry someone out but it likely won't change their desire to indulge in a drug. What I'm saying is that I can't view addiction in the same vein as Alzheimer's or Cohn's Disease, etc. and I think that calling addiction a disease is just a way to make an addict feel better and while anything making an addict feel better about themselves probably has some merit, calling their addiction a disease is not the truth as far as I'm concerned.

For the record, I knew a couple of functional alcoholics in college and one guy that I can only assume is dead by now. He wasn't the "He partied too much on Friday night"-type of guy, he had serious problems and drank heavily every day and frequently used drugs. My dad smoked and quit cold turkey (which by no means is the norm for someone with an addiction) and my grandparents all smoked for decades but eventually quit over time (3 of 4 of them have since died of cancer).

Who pointed a gun at these people to get high? things happen in life that a person gets addicted if they take it in the first place so who told them to experiment that is what bothers me, I am not an Angel nor a Devil and temptations sometimes creep in but you have to say NO.

Whether alcohol addiction or drug addiction (or any other addiction) is a "disease" is certainly open for question and has been and probably will continue to be debated for years. There are valid points to be made on both sides. Clearly someone with cancer, heart disease or any number of "diseases" you can name can't simply go to rehab and decide they are not going to submit to their disease and make it stop. With an addiction, as hard as it may be stop, and some people ultimately can't, if you stop, you hold the addiction in check. Now does that make an addiction a disease or not. I don't know and I really don't know how important that is beyond perhaps making it an intellectually challenging debate. I don't know the answer, but some things are called diseases and some are called addictions and to the extent they overlap is less important than the need to understand and treat them.

I hope that those of you that "feel" and "think" that addiction is not a disease never suffer from it. 

I've been a recovering addict for a while now, and in my opinion, as well as that of the AMA, and the APA, there is no question.

Fellas...I'm going to don my Moderator's hat now and say that both sides have had their say on the issue of alcoholism as disease..

Since my last post (responding to Travis) I have learned a lot about the debate and see, very clearly, what Bob Graz describes:

That's darn well said.  And it's not an argument that anyone here is qualified to settle.  This brief discourse has, however, given me the opportunity to become much better informed on the subject. 

So, I'm calling for an end to it now.  I think both sides have had their say...and we'll now move back to the subject at hand:  Ms. Lohan. 

BTW, today's news has her attending AA meetings for the past two days.

Whoops! Mike, you might have opened up another can of worms here. The AA is more a Christian based religious organization than a treatment program. Eight of the twelve steps have direct or indirect references to God, and try to prompt the addict to, in a way, "ask for forgiveness" from those they've hurt through their addiction.

So does that mean Lindsay will go Jesus on us?

This post has almost 900 replies.  What is this world coming to!

Not to mention over 100,000 views  (this is my first view and post). Now, the fact that the Tribute To Brunettes thread has over 1.4 million views is totally understandable  . And the fact that the Brunette thread is killing the Blond and Redhead threads helps me sleep better at night!

Let's keep the lid on all the cans of worms, please. 

She's out of jail on $300,000 bail and headed back to rehab...again.