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post #31 of 244
6/14/04 at 10:23am
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Face it, no one will be buying the second season separately unless *something* like this is done...


i'd like to have the pilots/theatrical movie as well, but i would easily purchase the second season sans anything else.

i've always thought the second season was vastly more interesting than the first.
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post #32 of 244
6/14/04 at 11:03am
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I have to dig up my old Beta tapes of Buck and go throught them now. I may have the entire collection on there actually. Always been a big Sci-Fi fan. Unfortunatly I did not have a Beta or VHS to tape Isis or Ark II, but I do remember them both. And even though I do not rememeber any of the story lines of any episode I would still by them. I think that part of my passion for Egypt actually came from seeing Isis. I can never get enough information on the digs going on now.

Great pic by the way guy's.
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post #33 of 244
6/14/04 at 12:08pm
well... lucky me i have them all recorded on dvd. :p)
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post #34 of 244
6/14/04 at 7:57pm
Joesph DeMartino wrote in Post #28:
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By the way, can anybody tell me the name of the episode where Buck and Ardala played Vegas?

You're probably thinking of "Vegas in Space," but Ardala was nowhere to be found in that episode. The female lead in that episode was a character named Major Marla Landers, played by one of the finalist actresses for the part of Wilma Deering. I wish I could remember her name, but I heard she died a while back.

De
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post #35 of 244
6/14/04 at 9:45pm
5. Vegas in Space
guest stars: Richard Lynch (Velosi) Ana Alicia (Falina) Juanin Clay (Marla Landers) Pamela Susan Shoop (Tangie) James Luisi (Hood) Cesar Romero (Armat) Joseph Wiseman (Morphus) Alice Frost (Rita) Ted Chapman (Man)


as far as the "second season sucks" sentiments
here are two typical plotlines for the second season
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36. Testimony of a Traitor
An ancient videotape is discovered that proves that Buck was involved in the nuclear holocaust that nearly destroyed the Earth hundreds of years before. Commissioner Bergstrom convenes a war crimes trial aboard the Searcher and, if Buck is found guilty, faces a death sentence. In a desperate attempt to clear himself, Buck agrees to another mind probe, but his memories seem to confirm the charges.

35. The Hand of Goral
Buck, Wilma, and Hawk explore a strange planet and come across the wreckage of a spacecraft and its lone survivor. He is taken back to the Searcher by Wilma, while Buck and Hawk continue to explore. After some unexplained happenings on the planet, they return to the Searcher, where they find that everyone has undergone personality changes -- becoming the opposite of their real selves. Buck soon learns that he can not even trust Wilma and Hawk to help him solve the mystery of what has happened.

and here are two typical plotlines for the first season
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21. Space Rockers
The evil Lars Mangros plans to broadcast a subliminal signal during the next performance of the rock group Andromeda that will cause the youth of the galaxy to riot. Buck infiltrates Musicworld, where the broadcast will originate, in an attempt to stop the madman from destroying the galaxy's cities.

13. Cruise Ship to the Stars
Murder and romance await Buck, Wilma, Theo and Twiki aboard the cruise ship Lyran Queen. Buck befriends a shy young girl (Beck) while investigating the attempted kidnapping of beauty queen Miss Cosmos (Stratten) by a woman (Noble) with superpowers. To his surprise, Buck learns the true identity of the mystery woman as he seeks the location of Miss Cosmos before a deadly dissection laser kills her.

i'll probably still pick up the first season, but most of the episodes were simple minded and cheesy as hell.
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post #36 of 244
6/14/04 at 9:59pm
Thanks for pointing out those episodes Paul. I do remember S2 as being more interesting. But the best one of that season is probably the one where the dwarves tried to undress Wilma telekinetically
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post #37 of 244
6/15/04 at 6:09am
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maybe the first season could be released on its own, and the second, short season, could have both versions of the pilot added. Face it, no one will be buying the second season separately unless *something* like this is done...

I don't know. I do think, however, that the pilot should be the longest version possible, which I think is the TV version. Also, I feel they should include any/all scenes that were deleted from the pilot. There are at least two scenes with King Draco that were filmed but never used (one short scene was used at the end of the theatrical version, though) that should be included as supplements, if not edited back in.

Hopefully, like Galactica, there will be more unused footage from many more of the episodes.

I, personally, would prefer a complete boxset, because like most people, I'm afraid Universal won't release the short second season on its own. Not necesarily because it's short, but because it, like Galactica 1980 is generally reviled by fans.

I don't suppose a G: 80/Buck Season 2 combined release could ever happen, unfortunately.
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post #38 of 244
6/15/04 at 6:19am
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You're probably thinking of "Vegas in Space," but Ardala was nowhere to be found in that episode. The female lead in that episode was a character named Major Marla Landers, played by one of the finalist actresses for the part of Wilma Deering. I wish I could remember her name, but I heard she died a while back.

Juanin Clay. She was also in "War Games", was a regular on "Edge of Night" and mostly did other guest work.

She died in 1995 of heart disease. She was only 45.
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post #39 of 244
6/15/04 at 6:38am
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as far as the "second season sucks" sentiments
here are two typical plotlines for the second season:

36. Testimony of a Traitor
*snip*

35. The Hand of Goral
*snip*

and here are two typical plotlines for the first season:

21. Space Rockers
*snip*

13. Cruise Ship to the Stars
*snip*

i'll probably still pick up the first season, but most of the episodes were simple minded and cheesy as hell.

You can just as easily prove that the first season is "better" if you pick different typical examples. For instance:

First season
"Flight of the War Witch" - Buck journeys through a space warp into another universe, where he discovers that the peaceful planet Pendar is being threatened by the sinister war witch Zarina. The Pendarans enlist the aid of Buck and Princess Ardala, who had followed Buck through the space warp, and an unsteady alliance between the humans and Draconians is formed as Buck leads a combined fleet against Zarina's battlecruiser.

Second season
"The Golden Man" - The Searcher rescues a gold-skinned boy from an escape capsule in an asteroid field. When the ship collides with one of the asteroids, the boy assures the crew of the Searcher that, with the help of his companion, who is on a nearby planet, he can dislodge the ship from the asteroid. But when Buck and Hawk go to the planet to get the companion, they find that he is being held captive by a man who wants to use the boy's powers for his own greedy purposes.

My point is that both seasons had a pretty good amount of good and bad storylines. There's a lot of bad in "The Golden Man" and the one with the Dwarves, for instance. The reason it's easier to cite more first season examples is that the season was twice as long.

Also, one problem is that you mention the merits of second season plotlines. True, several of the storylines sound good (a great many of them are stolen from other series, like the Bringers of Wonder episode of Space: 1999). The problem is that many of these storylines are let down in the actual execution, by a tight budget, high school-level acting and some casting mistakes.

As a kid, I have to be honest: I preferred the second season, but after seeing the episodes again as an adult, I find the first season vastly more entertaining: yes, most of the episodes are cheesy, but they're played with an almost knowing sense of fun, sort of like the audience is "in" on the joke. It's good, campy fun. I don't think one could really say the same about the second season: they tried to do straight drama, but unfortunately, didn't have the resources necessary to pull it off.
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post #40 of 244
6/15/04 at 8:34am
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You're probably thinking of "Vegas in Space,"


Actually I was making a joke based on Ardala's rather Showgirls outfit in the pics I found. I had no idea that there was such an episode.

Regards,

Joe
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post #41 of 244
6/15/04 at 8:34am
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You're probably thinking of "Vegas in Space,"


Actually I was making a joke based on Ardala's rather Showgirls outfit in the pics I found. I had no idea that there was such an episode.

Regards,

Joe
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post #42 of 244
6/15/04 at 3:54pm
Wasn't Jamie Lee Curtis in an episode involving a desert and a little blue fellow (played by Billy Barty I think)?
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post #43 of 244
6/15/04 at 3:54pm
Wasn't Jamie Lee Curtis in an episode involving a desert and a little blue fellow (played by Billy Barty I think)?
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post #44 of 244
6/15/04 at 4:57pm
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21. Space Rockers
The evil Lars Mangros plans to broadcast a subliminal signal during the next performance of the rock group Andromeda that will cause the youth of the galaxy to riot. Buck infiltrates Musicworld, where the broadcast will originate, in an attempt to stop the madman from destroying the galaxy's cities.

Would you believe that "madman" was none other than Law & Order's Jerry Orbach!

Paul and Andy: Thanks for the assist about Juanin Clay. I can't believe I'd forgotten her name, especially given the number of times I've seen Wargames.

De
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post #45 of 244
6/15/04 at 4:57pm
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21. Space Rockers
The evil Lars Mangros plans to broadcast a subliminal signal during the next performance of the rock group Andromeda that will cause the youth of the galaxy to riot. Buck infiltrates Musicworld, where the broadcast will originate, in an attempt to stop the madman from destroying the galaxy's cities.

Would you believe that "madman" was none other than Law & Order's Jerry Orbach!

Paul and Andy: Thanks for the assist about Juanin Clay. I can't believe I'd forgotten her name, especially given the number of times I've seen Wargames.

De
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post #46 of 244
6/15/04 at 11:15pm
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The problem is that many of these storylines are let down in the actual execution, by a tight budget, high school-level acting and some casting mistakes.

Exactly. They never got the tone right in season two.
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post #47 of 244
6/15/04 at 11:15pm
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The problem is that many of these storylines are let down in the actual execution, by a tight budget, high school-level acting and some casting mistakes.

Exactly. They never got the tone right in season two.
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post #48 of 244
6/16/04 at 8:55am
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Wasn't Jamie Lee Curtis in an episode involving a desert and a little blue fellow (played by Billy Barty I think)?


Yes, Jamie Lee Curtis played a prisoner on a desert planet. Buck poses as a fellow prisoner and together they try to escape to safety across the desert, but they have bracelets affixed to their wrists which sends out a homing signal to a menacing robot guard who pursues them, Terminator style. I believe at some point they encounter the sand dune orifice from Return of the Jedi.
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post #49 of 244
6/16/04 at 8:55am
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Wasn't Jamie Lee Curtis in an episode involving a desert and a little blue fellow (played by Billy Barty I think)?


Yes, Jamie Lee Curtis played a prisoner on a desert planet. Buck poses as a fellow prisoner and together they try to escape to safety across the desert, but they have bracelets affixed to their wrists which sends out a homing signal to a menacing robot guard who pursues them, Terminator style. I believe at some point they encounter the sand dune orifice from Return of the Jedi.
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post #50 of 244
6/16/04 at 10:39am
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Wasn't Jamie Lee Curtis in an episode involving a desert and a little blue fellow (played by Billy Barty I think)?

As Will said, Jamie Lee was in the "Unchained Woman" episode (the "sand orifice" was called the Sand Squid, for anyone who cares).

As for the "little blue fellow", you're remembering the other desert episode, from season two ("Journey to Oasis"). The blue guy (ODX, or O-Dee-X) was played by Felix Silla (the same guy who wore the Twiki suit).
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post #51 of 244
6/16/04 at 10:39am
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Wasn't Jamie Lee Curtis in an episode involving a desert and a little blue fellow (played by Billy Barty I think)?

As Will said, Jamie Lee was in the "Unchained Woman" episode (the "sand orifice" was called the Sand Squid, for anyone who cares).

As for the "little blue fellow", you're remembering the other desert episode, from season two ("Journey to Oasis"). The blue guy (ODX, or O-Dee-X) was played by Felix Silla (the same guy who wore the Twiki suit).
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post #52 of 244
6/16/04 at 1:21pm
Was there an episode in which a dude unscrews his own head and holds it up?
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post #53 of 244
6/16/04 at 1:21pm
Was there an episode in which a dude unscrews his own head and holds it up?
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post #54 of 244
6/16/04 at 2:24pm
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As for the "little blue fellow", you're remembering the other desert episode,
Hey there were a lot of desert episodes in Buck Rogers. Another I remember was the two parter Planet of the Slave Girls with Buster Crabbe.
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post #55 of 244
6/16/04 at 2:24pm
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As for the "little blue fellow", you're remembering the other desert episode,
Hey there were a lot of desert episodes in Buck Rogers. Another I remember was the two parter Planet of the Slave Girls with Buster Crabbe.
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post #56 of 244
6/16/04 at 3:50pm
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Was there an episode in which a dude unscrews his own head and holds it up?



thats the same episode from season two ("Journey to Oasis"). with The blue guy (ODX, or O-Dee-X).
good episode...
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post #57 of 244
6/16/04 at 3:50pm
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Was there an episode in which a dude unscrews his own head and holds it up?



thats the same episode from season two ("Journey to Oasis"). with The blue guy (ODX, or O-Dee-X).
good episode...
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post #58 of 244
6/16/04 at 5:50pm
Kevin M wrote in Post #47:
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Another I remember was the two parter Planet of the Slave Girls with Buster Crabbe.

That Buster Crabbe appearance kicked all sort of ass! The in-jokes were flying left and right in the second part of that episode.

Some of the series best music came from "Planet of the Slave Girls."

De
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post #59 of 244
6/16/04 at 5:50pm
Kevin M wrote in Post #47:
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Another I remember was the two parter Planet of the Slave Girls with Buster Crabbe.

That Buster Crabbe appearance kicked all sort of ass! The in-jokes were flying left and right in the second part of that episode.

Some of the series best music came from "Planet of the Slave Girls."

De
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post #60 of 244
7/12/04 at 5:14am
Looks like seasons 1 and 2 are being packaged together, as TVShowsOnDVD.com posted an item over the weekend saying "The Complete Series" is coming Nov. 16.

This was a good call on Universal's part. I just hope they don't make the set ridiculously expensive and that they don't have some silly oversized packaging (like last year's Battlestar Galactica release).
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