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post #31 of 41
5/15/04 at 6:03am
cracker's kerosene hat had an even more annoying version of of the 85+ tracks of silence then a bonus song, they actually set it up so the bonus tracks were something like 69, 79, and 98 (those are probably wrong, its been a long time since i actually listened to the cd) seperated by 3 second silent tracks. all you could do is fast forward til you heard some real sound coming from the "fast forward sound" and then skip around til you got to the right one. it sucked because i liked the one hidden song.
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post #32 of 41
5/15/04 at 9:36pm
I'm surprised that what must be one of the oldest "hidden tracks" out there hasn't been mentioned yet...at the end of the Beatles "Sgt. Pepper" album, there are several seconds of silence (supposedly they actually play a dog whistle here, inaudible to human ears), followed by a bunch of gibberish...it sounds like they probably cut up tape, threw it up in the air, and put it back together in a somewhat random way. I know this bit (called "the Inner Groove", I believe) is on the CD and the LP, but I'm not sure about the cassette.
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post #33 of 41
5/15/04 at 9:41pm
You know what you hear when you play the Inner Groove backwards, right?
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post #34 of 41
5/16/04 at 8:03am
Umm...Paul is Born?
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post #35 of 41
5/19/04 at 12:32pm
I'm not a fan of hidden tracks either. If they were simply spaced a few seconds after the end of the preceding song, it wouldn't be as bad. But the several minutes of silence followed by a song (that's usually of questionable quality anyway) is very annoying.

I recently got an album that has both a "rewind" hidden track included before Track 1, as well as a regular hidden track at the 9:00 mark of Track 14.

In this case, they're both pretty good songs, so I simply queued them up on my CD player and burned copies using my CDR deck. Now I don't have to futz with the original CD anymore to hear the tracks.
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post #36 of 41
3/6/07 at 7:19pm

Re: What's the point to a 'hidden track'?

Also irritating is the "Hidden Post" that comes nearly 3 years after the rest of the thread.

I think I have a new champion. Listening to John Fahey's "Red Cross" CD this evening I noticed the timer counting down from over 16 minutes before the last cut played.
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post #37 of 41
3/7/07 at 12:52pm

Re: What's the point to a 'hidden track'?

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Originally Posted by Scott Ware
Probably the most clever hidden track I've seen is on Tool's "Opiate" EP. In order to hear it on the CD version, you have to sit through several minutes of silence, like on most other CDs with hidden tracks. The vinyl version, however, is a bit trickier. I bought the vinyl version last year and was dissapointed to find that it did not include the hidden track (or so I thought...). It turns out that it's a double-grooved vinyl. For those of you who have never encountered one of those before, the way a double-grooved vinyl works is that there are two groves on one side. Depending on where the needle falls, it will play one of the two grooves. In the case of the "Opiate", one groove is the normal side two and the other is the hidden song.

Another method that NIN used (like Manson's "Anti-Christ Superstar") on the "Broken" EP was to put 99 tracks on the CD. Tracks 7-97 were silence. Track 98 was "Physical" and track 99 was "Suck". Earlier printings of the CD had one CD as the full EP and a second CD with the two bonus tracks on it.

On Tool's Undertow, the hidden track is done the same way as NIN's broken, except it is track 69...

Talk about digging up a thread...
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post #38 of 41
3/12/07 at 10:12am

Re: What's the point to a 'hidden track'?

Sorry for the double post.
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post #39 of 41
3/12/07 at 10:13am

Re: What's the point to a 'hidden track'?

Marcy Playground's album Shapeshifter has a hidden track at the end of Our Generation. The track is 8 minutes and 13 seconds long and the hidden track appears at 7 minutes and 14 seconds.
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post #40 of 41
3/12/07 at 12:18pm

Re: What's the point to a 'hidden track'?

On Staind's first album, Tormented, the last track 4 Walls is 33min. long. There are about 5-6 mins of silence after the song end, then some soft notes play and what I believe are burial rights are read in the background during part of the track.

On some of Staind's releases of Break the Cycle (it is not on all discs, and isn't listed), the hidden track Excess Baggage, an acoustic track, starts at 16:19 of the last track, which is 21:01.
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post #41 of 41
3/12/07 at 2:06pm

Re: What's the point to a 'hidden track'?

One of the funniest "hidden tracks" comes at the end of They Might Be Giant's "Severe Tire Damage".

After several minutes of silence, there are at least 6 or 7 different hidden songs, all of them about the Planet of the Apes. Each one is performed live at different concerts. They are really ridiculously silly, but if you like the band, you'll get a good laugh out of these (at least once or twice).
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