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Malcolm In The Middle Of Limbo

post #1 of 30
4/6/04 at 12:54pm
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Next to Mary Tyler Moore, my other favorite show is Malcolm In The Middle. I know that there are music rights issues involved and that this is holding up the release of season 2. Is there any news at all on the second season dvd release? In Living Color was quoted as beeing a music rights nightmare, but it seems that this issue was resolved. Is Malcolm In The Middle next??? Let me know. So far it's been 2 for 2 for me on shows i liked only having 1 season released.
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post #2 of 30
4/6/04 at 1:50pm
The second season was as good as the first, and I'd love to have it on DVD too. Fox knows the demand and sales are there, unlike Mary Tyler Moore, so there's hope.
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post #3 of 30
4/6/04 at 2:33pm
As long as TMBG's incidental music is intact, they can replace all the pop music for all I care.
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post #4 of 30
4/6/04 at 4:03pm
I've been watching this show since it came out, and is definitely on my list of DVDs I want.
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post #5 of 30
4/6/04 at 7:03pm
I'd get at least the 2nd season... after that, the show started to go downhill... but those first 2 years were just hilarious stuff.
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post #6 of 30
4/6/04 at 8:22pm
I think the second season was actually better than the first. Love the "Traffic Jam" episode -- just all-out Malcolm at its best. I have to disagree with you on the third season though, Robert, there was no decline in quality/humor. I think the decline was season 4. And they're on 5 now, correct? I haven't seen but one or two episodes this season.

I hope for the love of God season 2 comes out soon. I've been waiting for this for -- what -- a year and a half now?

I hope they get the music situation straight. I'm guessing they used a lot less TMBG and a lot more Top 40 stuff starting in season 2? I know for sure they were using some big songs by season 3. In the end, I can't see music clearances ever damning this show from release. I see though that they've certainly caused quite a delay.
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post #7 of 30
4/6/04 at 10:22pm
if In Living Color was a nightmare for music rights... and they somehow resolved it... what's keeping up The Wonder Years?
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post #8 of 30
4/7/04 at 3:58am
Well, I didn't like when the boys started to get too old.
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post #9 of 30
4/7/04 at 5:10pm
if In Living Color was a nightmare for music rights... and they somehow resolved it... what's keeping up The Wonder Years?


A completely different list of music--with their requisite artists, publishers, labels, etc.--to make deals for. I could see this being an issue if the exact same music was in both series, but since we're talking a completely different set of songs the one being releases has nothing to do with the other.
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post #10 of 30
4/8/04 at 11:48am
I loved the first two seasons. I considered buying s1, but since I've seen the decline in the show the last few years, I've given up the idea of buying the show at all. I dropped it off the Tivo SP, too.
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post #11 of 30
4/10/04 at 2:48am
I was sure they used just as much TMBG music in S2.. evidently not.
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post #12 of 30
4/10/04 at 3:13pm
This does seem to really be held up. It seems to me that if a little company can justify the cost of getting all the music for Freaks and Geeks cleared, Fox should be able to get it for MITMS2. They'll probably just end up replacing it all though.
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post #13 of 30
4/11/04 at 1:35am
Season 2 is killer material. I didn't even realize they were up to season 5. The show is already showing its age. Fox was really gambling on Malcolm when it came out, now they may lose out as the kids get too old and the plots get too stretched out from the original formula.

I felt kind of cheated that they have a Malcolm retrospective covering seasons 1,2, and 3 in the first season DVD set. They even included footage from those seasons reminding me of all the episodes I don't have.
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post #14 of 30
4/11/04 at 5:59pm
I've actually found the later episodes really interesting. I don't remember many other shows that have been able to come up with funny material corresponding to the characters ages as they grow up. To me it makes them seem more multi-dimentional and less boring.
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post #15 of 30
4/12/04 at 12:39pm
I agree that the first couple of seaons were great but the recent years have turned me off of this show. Any scene with francis just drives me crazy because its not funny anymore. I will buy the first few seaons and then probably stop.
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post #16 of 30
4/12/04 at 2:16pm
I love the first 2 seasons and pretty much don't bother watching anymore, they lost my interest a couple seasons ago.
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post #17 of 30
4/16/04 at 12:41pm
There is hope. Someone on another board posted an excerpt from an interview with John Stanley, from Fox Home Entertainment in the UK, and here's the part where he talks about MITM:

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Music rights can be very expensive and have held us back in the past on shows like King of the Hill and currently the second season of Malcolm in the Middle this year. With the second season of Malcolm in the Middle it is a case of "when not if" we will release it and though the music rights will be paid to acquire the DVD, we have bigger priorities to put some other TV shows on DVD first.

So clearly there is a good chance of the second season coming out sometime.

(Note about King of the Hill: from that quote I can't tell whether he means that music rights are holding up KotH Season 3 or if he's talking about music licensing being the reason why KotH didn't come to DVD until last year. Since he said "in the past" I assume he means the latter, though, especially since it was the first season DVD that had the Beach Boys and Barenaked Ladies music.)
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post #18 of 30
5/29/04 at 12:31am
I hope Malcolm in the Middle: Season 2 is out by Christmas...

Fox says they have bigger priorities to release other shows before Malcolm, but since Season 1 is already out, I'd say MITM should be a pretty big priority. They recently released In Living Color: Season 1, which supposedly had some music difficulties. And they're releasing stuff like The Bernie Mac Show, COPS, The Simple Life...even Two Guys, A Girl and a Pizza Place. I wish they'd get on the ball with Malcolm, already. The fans are struggling
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post #19 of 30
2/10/05 at 1:48pm
Here's some info from a site called Digital Spy about possible future Malcolm in the Middle seasons on DVD...

This was published Friday, January 14 2005

So far only the first season of the show has been released on DVD in the States; (Frankie) Muniz explained that ongoing negotiations over royalties were to blame for the lack of additional releases.

"We have a lot of original music for the show and when you come out on DVD you have to pay all the musicians," he added. "We don't want to change the music for the DVD because that's part of the show. So they're going through some stuff now for a couple of the other seasons."

Not exactly new info, but the last sentence of the second paragraph keeps me optimistic for the future of Malcolm in the Middle on DVD.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds18335.html
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post #20 of 30
2/10/05 at 6:12pm
I loved the first two seasons, and then it became a cartoon. Still amusing, though.
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post #21 of 30
2/10/05 at 8:09pm
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I hope Malcolm in the Middle: Season 2 is out by Christmas...

Fox says they have bigger priorities to release other shows before Malcolm, but since Season 1 is already out, I'd say MITM should be a pretty big priority. They recently released In Living Color: Season 1, which supposedly had some music difficulties. And they're releasing stuff like The Bernie Mac Show, COPS, The Simple Life...even Two Guys, A Girl and a Pizza Place. I wish they'd get on the ball with Malcolm, already. The fans are struggling

Two Guys and Girl hasn't been released. I hope they do release it, it's one of my fav. shows.

I've seen bits and pieces of MITM, and it is very funny, I might blind buy the 2nd Season if it were ever released
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post #22 of 30
2/10/05 at 8:30pm
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Two Guys and (a) Girl


Note that this was never, ever in the pipeline. Peter Staddon brought up the title a year ago at an HTF chat, but he had a moment of confusion and when he said it was coming, he was thinking of the extremely similarly-titled old Fox motion picture "Two Girls and a Guy". Last July I posted a "Fox Chat Follow-up" news item that explained this.

There never were plans (and to my knowledge, still aren't) for 2G,AG,aaPP...sorry!
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post #23 of 30
2/10/05 at 8:33pm
Thanks David, maybe it will eventually get a release.

Personally I think the "Two Guys and a Girl" title fits the show better
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post #24 of 30
2/10/05 at 9:23pm
Note that this was never, ever in the pipeline. Peter Staddon brought up the title a year ago at an HTF chat, but he had a moment of confusion and when he said it was coming, he was thinking of the extremely similarly-titled old Fox motion picture "Two Girls and a Guy". Last July I posted a "Fox Chat Follow-up" news item that explained this.


Yeah, sorry for the confusion, Angela. The post in which I mentioned "Two Guys and a Girl" is from May of 2004, before we knew the DVD info was a misunderstanding.
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post #25 of 30
2/10/05 at 9:49pm
That's allright, I should have looked at the date of the post :b

At least I can watch Two Guys and a Girl on WE(Women's Entertainment)
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post #26 of 30
4/6/07 at 10:55am

Re: Malcolm In The Middle Of Limbo

Any news on Malcolm?
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post #27 of 30
2/6/12 at 2:04pm
Season 1 is coming in the UK soon from a company called Fabulous Films, so Fox is indeed licensing out abroad. If all the songs have been cleared, maybe there's also hope for something similar happening with WKRP in Cincinnati later on R2 as well. Just dreaming out loud here, of course. A bunch of other Fox shows are coming there also, like S1 of Chicago Hope from Revelation Films but I think it's the same guys.
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post #28 of 30
2/22/12 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by HenryDuBrow View Post

Season 1 is coming in the UK soon from a company called Fabulous Films, so Fox is indeed licensing out abroad.

I saw this news mentioned elsewhere that not only season 1, but all seasons and even a box set by the end of the year. Is this for real? I would like to see a press release but hopefully it is happening, and will be region free. Perhaps a US release is imminent too. ??
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post #29 of 30
2/23/12 at 2:09am
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Originally Posted by David Deeb View Post

I saw this news mentioned elsewhere that not only season 1, but all seasons and even a box set by the end of the year. Is this for real? I would like to see a press release but hopefully it is happening, and will be region free. Perhaps a US release is imminent too. ??

Season 1 is listed on Amazon.co.uk; the company confirmed to mye via e-mail that this is indeed the plan. Dunno about region-free, though. I'd say the US is unlikely. Fabulous Films said the music is easier to clear in the UK than the US. plus, Fox have licensed tons of shows in the UK recently that have no US release scheduled yet (LA Law, Chicago Hope, Two Guys and a Girl..)
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post #30 of 30
2/23/12 at 8:20am
Would be awesome if this company could, quite literally, set the record straight for a number of Fox shows entangled in a music rights mess stateside. They'd become known as the saving grace to millions of TV fans everywhere, and an excellent reason for many to go region-free player-wise. So fingers crossed they can check out titles like the long-suffering WKRP, too.
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