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post #451 of 680
10/12/05 at 8:26am
Agreed. I'd love them to stop the Icarus crapola and deal with (novel concept) a real story.

Perhaps at some point they will catch on that all the gee-wiz gadgets and let's out Bond the last Bond is a trap. Don't know if they have the guts to get away from Bond having to "save the world" yet again.
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post #452 of 680
10/12/05 at 8:52am
Just an FYI for all of you who are wondering who the hell Daniel Craig is, he's the guy that played Paul Newman's rather wacko gangster son in Road to Perdition - you know, the one that Tom Hanks shot in the bathtub at the end...
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post #453 of 680
10/12/05 at 9:07am
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Just an FYI for all of you who are wondering who the hell Daniel Craig is, he's the guy that played Paul Newman's rather wacko gangster son in Road to Perdition - you know, the one that Tom Hanks shot in the bathtub at the end...
Given the extent of Craig's resume, that's a little like saying, "For those of you who don't know Viggo Mortensen, he played one of the Amish in Witness."

M.
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post #454 of 680
10/12/05 at 9:20am
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Given the extent of Craig's resume, that's a little like saying, "For those of you who don't know Viggo Mortensen, he played one of the Amish in Witness."
Hardly. Road to Perdition and Tomb Raider are the two most well-known films he's been in. Ask any guy on the street if he's seen Layer Cake, and he'll think of yesterday's dessert.
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post #455 of 680
10/12/05 at 9:34am
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"For those of you who don't know Viggo Mortensen, he played one of the Amish in Witness."
OH MY GOD! Really? It's been so long I have not seen Witness and I didn't know Viggo then!
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post #456 of 680
10/12/05 at 9:48am
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Ask any guy on the street if he's seen Layer Cake, and he'll think of yesterday's dessert.
This isn't the street.

M.
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post #457 of 680
10/12/05 at 9:49am
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OH MY GOD! Really? It's been so long I have not seen Witness and I didn't know Viggo then!


Sometimes, I'm surprised how many films Viggo has been in. (And I first was aware of him from "A Perfect Murder".)

Jason
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post #458 of 680
10/12/05 at 10:08am
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Ask any guy on the street if he's seen Layer Cake, and he'll think of yesterday's dessert.
This isn't the street.
There's not much of a difference. There's only one review of Layer Cake in the 2005 Foreign, Alternative and Independent Films thread, and the HTF DVD review thread has a total of 5 posts in it.
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post #459 of 680
10/12/05 at 10:16am
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There's not much of a difference.
If there isn't much of a difference between "the street" and a forum that's supposed to be populated by film enthusiasts, that would be unfortunate. But I don't think it's true.

M.
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post #460 of 680
10/12/05 at 10:22am
If there isn't much of a difference between "the street" and a forum that's supposed to be populated by film enthusiasts, that would be unfortunate. But I don't think it's true.


I have to side with Thomas on this one. I certainly consider myself a film enthusiast and before "Layer Cake", the most high profile role I remember from Craig was "Road To Perdition" (I'm fortunate enough to have never seen "Tomb Raider"). A look at his resume on imdb shows a lot of work but those that I've seen I don't even remember who Craig played and most of list I've never even heard of. I don't think its at all out of the ordinary that most people on this forum might primarily know Craig's work from "Road to Perdition."
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post #461 of 680
10/12/05 at 10:46am
I wonder how many Bond films Craig will star in. He already looks old so this younger Bond thing is bollocks IMO.

Also, count me in as another knowing about Craig from seeing Road to Perdition. Never heard of Layer Cake until this thread.
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post #462 of 680
10/12/05 at 10:49am
I don't remember Craig from Road to Perdition. I do from Layer Cake though...of course I DID watch it last weekend. I'm glad my short term memory can still go that far back.

Personally, based on the books, I always pictured Bond as more rugged than suave and I think Craig has good potential. I do think Clive would've been better though. I would absolutely love to see them make the movie in the lines of From Russia with Love which IMHO is the best in the series. I'm going to have to dig up Casino Royale and read it again, it probably been 25 years.
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post #463 of 680
10/12/05 at 10:55am
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I have to side with Thomas on this one.
I don't see where there's a question of "sides". My initial -- really, my only -- point is that this is an actor with a substantial and varied body of work, and it's one with which the casting directors and producers involved in choosing the next Bond are no doubt familiar. To the extent people here don't know his work, they should consider checking it out, especially since many of the films are worthwhile in their own right.

M.
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post #464 of 680
10/12/05 at 11:09am
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I don't remember Craig from Road to Perdition.


I do. He played Paul Newman's son, if I'm not mistaken.
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post #465 of 680
10/12/05 at 11:36am
Perhaps it's worth noting that the site that reported Craig as "the chosen one" also had a poll asking if he'd make a good Bond. At the time I voted, it was 67% "NO".

I wonder if the supposed leak is really just a way to gauge public opinion.

The story is he turned it down, but I agree if they wanted rugged, Clive Owen was the way to go. He doesn't look any older than Craig either. Owen probably wouldn't have been satisfied with a script that wasn't top-notch either. I imagine the producers want someone they can push around. And someone who people respond to as "Who's Daniel Craig?" is such a person.
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post #466 of 680
10/12/05 at 11:55am
Poll Link:

http://www.thisislondon.com/haveyour...temId=20594626

Up to 72 percent ...
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post #467 of 680
10/12/05 at 12:33pm
MSNBC also has a poll going. They had the usual suspects for candidate Bond actors, Hugh Jackman, Clive Owen, MacGregor, etc. Number 1 was Pierce Brosnan at 22 thousand votes or so. Craig was last at about 1000 votes.

Grant, you may be right, perhaps Sony or Eon are up to this to get public opinion.
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post #468 of 680
10/12/05 at 1:07pm
Brosnan will be back because they saw ME say I prefer his look to Craig's.

They never get the new guy first time around anyway. He has to get old first.
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post #469 of 680
10/12/05 at 1:15pm
Jackman is a fairly close second to Brosnan at the MSNBC poll, with Clive Owen a decent margin back in third. Everyone else is WAY, WAY back in the pack.

If Brosnan is really out and Owen's already turned it down, that leaves Jackman for the people's choice: I could certainly live with that. It's another franchise for him, but I don't think franchises have killed his career, and if Van Helsing can't kill your career....
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post #470 of 680
10/13/05 at 6:12am
Well, I guess we'll all know for sure on Friday.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11537
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post #471 of 680
10/13/05 at 6:48am
Some poster art from Commanderbond.net.



What Me Worry?

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post #472 of 680
10/13/05 at 8:38am
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Given the extent of Craig's resume, that's a little like saying, "For those of you who don't know Viggo Mortensen, he played one of the Amish in Witness."


Uh, what?

I own Road to Perdition and didn't know Craig was in that. So that was very helpful to me. And Craig's resume isn't really that populated by popular stuff. He's really an unknown.

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my only -- point is that this is an actor with a substantial and varied body of work


Apparently, not alot of people think that. I certainly don't.
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post #473 of 680
10/13/05 at 8:59am
Craig's eyesbrows, or miniscule amount of them make him look weird to me. He's got a dour look to him too.
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post #474 of 680
10/13/05 at 9:37am
I do indeed remember this guy from Road to Perdition and Tomb Raider so those comparisons weren't bad for me. His role in Road to Perdition is pretty substantial. He has more of a role than Jennifer Jason Leigh if it matters. I remember thinking they got a good match to play Newman's son (the baby blues) and I also remember his line about everything being "so fucking funny." I haven't seen the movie since it came out on DVD though. The Tomb Raider role is a little more vague but I believe he was Lara's love interest with his character being named after the director's father (got that from listening to the commentary; not sure why I remember it).

Still, I agree that he doesn't have the right looks. My vote always went to Clive Owen. Owen's not a pretty boy like some of the other picks and has a hard look that suits the character. Craig does have a harder look but it's not really balanced out with his other features. When I saw him in Layer Cake, I thought he'd make a pretty good Bond but his looks just don't really fit.
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post #475 of 680
10/13/05 at 11:35am
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Given the extent of Craig's resume, that's a little like saying, "For those of you who don't know Viggo Mortensen, he played one of the Amish in Witness."
I certainly understand your point, Michael, but from reading through the thread many people were unfamiliar with his work. Road to Perdition was something that I felt would be more noticeable to the masses, myself included...
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post #476 of 680
10/13/05 at 11:35am
The official Bond announcement will be made tomorrow. And I do agree that Daniel is a weird looking choice for Bond.
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post #477 of 680
10/13/05 at 11:54am
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my only -- point is that this is an actor with a substantial and varied body of work

Apparently, not alot of people think that.
Apparently not a lot of people have seen much of his work (as this thread has confirmed).

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I certainly don't.
Then I guess I'll be happier than you if, as expected, Craig is announced as the new Bond tomorrow.

One of the fascinating things about the Bond franchise is how it's managed to thrive with a variety of leads, all of whom (with the possible exception of Connery) struck some portion of the viewing population as unsuitable. I never for an instant bought Roger Moore as Bond, and yet some of his films are among my favorites. It's as if the idea of Bond is more powerful than the actors who play him. If there isn't already a treatise on the subject, someone should write one.

M.
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post #478 of 680
10/13/05 at 12:48pm
In all fairness Michael, your evident passion for the theater predisposes you to pay closer attention to relatively unknown performers/performances than the average movie enthusiast.

I haven't a clue who Daniel Craig is either, and I've seen at least 3 movies of his.

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H
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post #479 of 680
10/13/05 at 2:41pm
While I'm flattered that you remember my interest in theater, I've never seen Daniel Craig on stage. I know his work because I go to a lot of movies.

M.
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post #480 of 680
10/13/05 at 3:19pm
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I know his work because I go to a lot of movies.
In New York, you might add. You live in a completely different market compared to the vast majority of the country.
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