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post #61 of 64
4/20/08 at 12:51pm

Re: Fantasia question

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Originally Posted by Kevin M
The "Jim Crow" sequence (my terminology) certainly wasn't cut from Dumbo...it has always struck me as hypocritical or at the very least odd that Disney finds such offense with all of these other sequences in their various films and shorts, to the point of cutting/altering them to protect impressionable young children, but these obvious racially stereotyped characters remain untouched.

Those characters in Dumbo are integral to the story. Modifying or deleting the characters would destroy the business that occurs in that sequence. Deleting a few stereotypical background characters that show up for a couple of seconds cannot be compared to erasing of modifying characters that play a big part in the story. Erasing a couple of zebra-taurs, although stupid and uncalled for, has no effect on the film as a whole. Modifying or deleting the supposed "Jim Crow" sequence would destroy the entire sequence that makes up that part of the film. Even the PC influenced executives at Disney can see that.
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post #62 of 64
4/20/08 at 9:06pm

Re: Fantasia question

I think the "What Makes A Red Man Red" bit from PETER PAN is blatantly racist; much worse than the censored FANTASIA bits (I've seen them).
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post #63 of 64
4/21/08 at 6:02am

Re: Fantasia question

Exactly. I think we can all agree that it is not so much the censorship that is the issue here, but rather the arbitrary nature with which it is applied.
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post #64 of 64
4/21/08 at 4:17pm

Re: Fantasia question

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Originally Posted by Edwin-S
Those characters in Dumbo are integral to the story. Modifying or deleting the characters would destroy the business that occurs in that sequence. Deleting a few stereotypical background characters that show up for a couple of seconds cannot be compared to erasing of modifying characters that play a big part in the story. Erasing a couple of zebra-taurs, although stupid and uncalled for, has no effect on the film as a whole. Modifying or deleting the supposed "Jim Crow" sequence would destroy the entire sequence that makes up that part of the film. Even the PC influenced executives at Disney can see that.
I understand that the characters are in a major & well known sequence in the film, but my point being that if they (I.E. Disney) are indeed as concerned with not portraying stereotype racial characters in their classic films to protect impressionable young children as they state they are then they are only censoring the parts they can get away without deleting "beloved" well known characters or sequences. It is hypocritical IMO.

Offer the original versions for Adults who understand the times that these films were made in and are fully able to put that fact into context during viewing, and the censored versions for children....this will never happen I am sure but it makes sense to me.
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