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Kentucky Fried Movie...pixellation

post #1 of 42
Thread Starter 
My Kentucky Fried Movie just crapped out on me. Film at eleven...

I start watching the WS version and get lots of pixellation, sound dropout, and eventual lock-up. It is only on the WS (the P&S plays fine) with the problems beginning near the middle of chapter 3 and eventually it locks-up about 10 seconds into Catholic High School Girls In Trouble. The disc played fine when I got it, but I have not watched it in 6 months or longer. The play surface has a milky haze forming near the center of the disc (looks like a shitty glue job or layer separation) and you can see the cover art through the play side. (I don't know how common that is, but it's a first for me.)

The problem is repeatable and always in the same place. If I try to skip past chapter 5, I get lock-up with a blank screen. Looks like coaster city now...

Anyone else have this one crap out on you?

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My DVD Collection

post #2 of 42
Yup.... my KFM is crapping out as well, same probelm. Some else posted here a few weeks ago with the same complaint. Coincidentally, there is a new case for KFM.... wonder if they know that it's got problems?

Jim

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Jayedeye@usa.net

Want to hold up a bank in Latin?
"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."
(I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.)
post #3 of 42
Sounds like a case of the dreaded "DVD rot". I had something similar happen to my copy of Handel's "The Messiah." I emailed Image Entertainment and they exchanged my copy. Maybe you should try emailing whoever put out KFM.
post #4 of 42
Good idea... and it's Anchor Bay, so they're pretty nice as far as a studio goes....

Jim

BTW: I'm from E. Fishkill... so, Hi, Neighbor

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Jayedeye@usa.net

Want to hold up a bank in Latin?
"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."
(I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.)
post #5 of 42
Thread Starter 
Very good idea indeed. I also noticed the new cover a few months ago at Best Buy and figured it was either a 2nd pressing or a cheap marketing scheme to sell more copies.

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My DVD Collection

post #6 of 42
Just a clarification: the full frame version of KFM is open matte, not "P&S".

Rob

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"That suits me down to the ground."
post #7 of 42
Mine's still working okay, but if I hold the disc up to the light I can see tiny pinholes of light through it. A defect of extraordinary magnitude!
post #8 of 42
Thanks. I'd better check my copy as well. I haven't played it in a while.

Quote:
BTW: I'm from E. Fishkill... so, Hi, Neighbor
Howdy. Have you found any decent audio (hardware) shops in the area or is it just BB and CC (and online)?
post #9 of 42
When I decide to purchase this, I'll be sure to watch out for this problem. Thanks for starting this thread.

You have our gratitude.
post #10 of 42
Okay, so there seems to be an old version with one cover that goes bad over time, and a possibly-fixed version that has a new cover.

Can anyone A) say for sure that the one in the new cover is fixed? and, B) show the old vs. new covers?

I've been thinking of buying this, but now I'm very wary!

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DAVE/Memphis
post #11 of 42
I sent a note to Anhor Bay... we shall see what they say (if anything). I was wondering about the cover art change, because it really didn't make sense, as there was nothing offensive about the original one. Oh well, KFM is a great great DVD. Sorry about the P&S mistake... I was unaware of that. Still it was originally projected in widescreen, so I want to watch it in that version.

Jim

PS...
As far as A/V around here, I generally go to CC or BB for DVD's, Radioshack for A/V stuff (I'm cheap). The only other option is a bit away, in Danbury there is a Tweeters, Etc. which is very nice and has some higher end stuff.

Really, the best deal that I've gotten recently has been from CC (Circuit City) where they put a Phillips DirecTV with Tivo on clearance or promo for $99! What a find!

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Jayedeye@usa.net

Want to hold up a bank in Latin?
"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."
(I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.)
post #12 of 42
quote:
Just a clarification: the full frame version of KFM is open matte, not "P&S".[/quote]

Either way you describe it, it's not OAR. It's MAR.

At least it also has the Widescreen version, too. OAR rules!


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DAVE/Memphis


[Edited last by David Lambert on October 03, 2001 at 05:41 AM]
post #13 of 42
I have the original release of this DVD and have no problems. I watched the widescreen version from chapter 3 through Catholic High School Girls In Trouble ( ) and saw no pixellation.

It seems like every month or so that there is a new "scare" with an older disc that appears to go bad. (Last month it was Ghostbusters, I think.) I have been collecting DVDs for almost three years now and have never had a problem. I know that there were some legitimate cases such as the first pressings of Contact. However, I am very skeptical about these claims of "DVD rot".

I have a few theories as to what is going on:

1. Now that DVDs have been around for several years, maybe we're starting to see older players finally giving up the ghost. A DVD player will have a finite lifetime, and we, HTF members, will probably reach the end of that lifetime quicker than others. Are we sure that all these problems are software only? (I occasionally see some video glitches in my three-year old Pioneer player.)

2. There may truly be some isolated cases where discs have gone bad due to glitches in the manufacturing process. However, I don't think there has been anything widespread that will affect every copy of every disc.

3. People are not taking care of their discs and scratches and dust are affecting playback.

4. Maybe there exist some malicious rumor-starters who enjoy spreading lies about such things. (Not that I'm accusing ANYONE here of doing this!!! It's just a thought. I know there have been cases of people posting false information on other forums and websites, and maybe some of these "DVD rot" claims may fall into this category.)

Admittedly, I am no expert. But every time someone has trouble with a disc someone immediately screams "DVD rot". Is anyone REALLY sure this is happening?

Thanks.

-Kelly
post #14 of 42
Just got a response to my e-mail, and a phone number for me to contact. After I do that tomorrow, I'll let ya'll know what the deal is. They did indicate that they would replace my copy, so that's great news!

Jim

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Jayedeye@usa.net

Want to hold up a bank in Latin?
"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."
(I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.)
post #15 of 42
Thread Starter 
Good news, Jim. Thanks. I'll look for you to post the info so I can get the address & phone number. I have been busy and have not had time to get in touch with them myself.

Thanks again.

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My DVD Collection
post #16 of 42
Kelly,
The term "DVD rot" may be a misnomer (not that anyone was "screaming" it); I read where someone said maybe it was the layers on the DVD separating over time due to a manufacturing defect. But if it happens only on certain discs, I'd think it's more likely due to disc rather than player problems.
post #17 of 42
The DVD was released with two different covers from day one, IIRC, so I don't think that is any indication of the disc's likelihood to have problems.

Regards,

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Ken McAlinden
Livonia, MI USA
post #18 of 42
Here are the two covers

VERSION A




VERSION B


I have version B, and it STILL works fine.

Just remember....With out Zinc Oxcide, we wouldn't have either version. Maybe thats what happening to some of your DVD's.
post #19 of 42
I had version A (old cover) and that copy crapped out on me. My first case of "dvd rot," and I can confirm it is rot, as it played fine for about 6-9 months. Then one day, neither my Sony or Panasonic player was able to read the disc. Very weird. Believe it is (was) a mastering problem.

Cheers,
Felix
post #20 of 42
I've had cover b for a while now and It's worked fine. Maybe you should try watching it in Feel-Around.
post #21 of 42
If it truly is a mastering problem are they exchanging bad copies for good ones?
post #22 of 42
Hey, where are the no-such-thing-as-dvd-rot police?

post #23 of 42
i'll have to go home and check my copy (original cover).

Kelly,

the "rot" thing is for real. Apparently some dual-layer discs have "issues" after 6 months to a year. The problem is not player dependent and it has nothing to do with disc care (no scratches or finger prints).

so far my old copy of "Contact" still plays (another title that had many "rot" issues)...
post #24 of 42
OMG!

I have Version A, haven't played it in awhile, and just checked it after seeing this thread.

The disc won't even load!

I managed to get to the menu one time but it eventually gave me an error.

Hmm.. I may contact Anchor Bay as well. Will they replace it?
post #25 of 42
This Anchor Bay/KEntucky Fried Movie issue may be the same as their Heathers problems.
You play it a couple times, then you load it in your DVD player one day, and it doesn't do anything put spin in your DVD player.

Anchor Bay has replaced alot of DVD's for people.
You can e-mail them and see.

Anchor Bay replacement form= http://www.theregangroup.com/pages/a...S&prod_title1=
post #26 of 42
I contacted AB a few months ago when my KFM DVD suddenly died. They told me that they knew of no problems with the disc and asked me to mail it to them so they could check it out. Before I got around to doing so, they e-mailed me telling me that they had confirmed a problem with the disc. They asked for my mailing address and they promptly mailed me a new disc, which works perfectly.

DJ
post #27 of 42
My Kentucky Fried Movie DVD (version A) plays fine. So does my Contact DVD. I got both on their respective release dates.

Maybe somebody should bring this to the attention of Samuel L. Bronkowitz.
post #28 of 42
Well, based upon my experience, I'd encourage all of you with the "Version A" of KFM to check your discs.

After seeing this thread, I did. And guess what? Widescreen version, @20 minutes in... PIXELLATION. Just sent my eMail to Anchor Bay.

Too bad. 'Cuz otherwise, it's a stellar disc.
post #29 of 42
I second what Todd said. I just got around to checking mine because of this thread. I have version A, and it won't even load. I get a code C13:00 on my Sony DVD player, which corresponds to "clean the disc" in the manual. This is the first time I've seen it happen, and the disc is most certainly NOT dirty.
post #30 of 42
Well I just went and Checked out my copy on a sony 650 5 Disc changer.

Now all I did to check it was fast forward through both the widescreen and full screen versions of the movie and I did not notice any problems at all. I did not really have time to watch the whole movie but I figured if people were saying it would not even load then mine must be OK.

Oh BTW I have Version A and got it on Release day, actually a few days before release day.


Max
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