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Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

post #1 of 18
12/17/03 at 7:39pm
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A while ago I heard that Clive Barker was trying to get a Director's Cut of Nightbreed released on DVD, does anyone know anything about this?
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post #2 of 18
12/18/03 at 12:16am
not me! but i'd buy it in a heartbeat !!
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post #3 of 18
12/18/03 at 3:29am
I think I remember reading that this was scuttled some time ago. Unfortunately I don't have any solid articles toward which to point you. Anyone else have anything?
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post #4 of 18
12/18/03 at 4:42am
I first heard of a Nightbreed Dir Cit about 3 years ago and havent heard a single update since.

I wouldnt hold my breath.
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post #5 of 18
12/18/03 at 5:47am
Warner implied in a chat two or so years ago it was being worked on, but nothing has happened. Clive Barker has expressed interested in the past. I recall reading an article a while back which suggested the footage would need to be located first. Apparently, he's busy too with a Tortured Souls film. In other words, not any time soon.
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post #6 of 18
12/18/03 at 6:03am
I caught the end of this on iNHD1 a few weeks ago in HD. I don't know if it was the director's cut but it looked very good.
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post #7 of 18
12/18/03 at 6:25am
The movie is very interesting but a little disjointed. Barker has said over the years that the film would be much better had he been given final cut. I still enjoy what is there. David Cronenberg is especially creepy in it.
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post #8 of 18
12/18/03 at 8:29am
Here's an excerpt regarding the DVD from a recent interview with Clive at clivebarker.com.



Absolutely no progress right now, because nobody at Fox seems to know where the material is. It is incredibly frustrating. Everybody that we worked with has long since gone at Morgan Creek, who was the company that originally worked with Fox to make the movie.

Part of the problem, is that it is old news to us. I heard a story, I don't know if it is true or not, but when they were going to do the special edition of the Howling, they were looking around for the material. Joe Dante smiled, and said "I kept it all in my garage." I don't know if it is true or not, but I hope it is. If I make another movie, trust me, that's just what I'll do. I mean we'll find it eventually, but in a way it's like having to be a squeaky wheel. In studios the people change, and just at the time you get someone interested. There was a wonderful guy called George Feldenstein at MGM who was responsible for doing the brilliant packaging of the laser edition of Lord of Illusions, and making sure that the extra 12 minutes of the director's cut was properly scored, and so on. He's since gone. He was a visionary. He was a guy who really understood, and who saw, even before the DVD revolution came upon us, that there was going to be a real appetite for these extra features and things like that. The problem is, over at Fox right now, I genuinely don't think they know where the material is. I think it's probably sitting in a ... this depresses the hell out of me to say it, but it's probably true. It's probably sitting in a series of unmarked canisters, a lot of unmarked canisters in a warehouse. I think probably they would help me if they possibly could. I don't think they are being willfully difficult I just don't think anyone knows where the hell this stuff is. I wonder if somebody's gonna come across it by accident, and that may happen or else eventually we figure we'll find someone at Fox who, if we dog them enough, they will give us the key to the warehouse. Maybe that's what it will take, maybe they will say, "Barker, you've bothered us enough, here's the key. Go find it."

In which case we'll go find it. I wouldn't have the slightest problem with doing that, if that is what it will take. I can't imagine them doing that anytime soon. Maybe they will, and then we'll do it. One of these days we'll do it.
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post #9 of 18
12/18/03 at 1:06pm
Fox seems to be pretty good at storing their outtakes (look at the ALIEN series), so the material probably exists, but as Barker points out, it's all a matter of somebody rummaging through the boxes and film cans in the Fox vault to try and find it all.

If I lived in LA, I'd volunteer, and while I was at it, I'd keep an eye out for the EXORCIST III outtakes :-)

Vincent
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post #10 of 18
5/20/06 at 3:20am

re: Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

In the forlorn hope that a feature-packed edition of Nightbreed is released, I'd like to mention that I recently re-discovered some behind-the-scenes footage and interviews, which could be used as DVD (HD DVD / Blu-Ray!) extras...

There are two programmes: a British film review show called Saturday Night at the Movies (broadcast May 27th 1989), which featured interviews with Cronenberg, Barker, Bob Keen and Geoff Portass; and an American show called Cinemattractions, which had interviews with Cronenberg and Barker.

I also have some photo's from an exhibition of Nightbreed props and costumes, which was held here in London.

If anyone reading this is involved in putting a Nightbreed disc together, I'd be happy to contribute them!
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post #11 of 18
5/22/06 at 6:07am

re: Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

There is an edition of the South Bank Show that covered Clive Barker's career around the time he was making Nightbreed.

This was make an excellent extra on any Clive Barker DVD release. The documentary is 1 hour long and was made with Clive's full co-operation.

It is one of those VHS documentaries along with Heart of Darkness I've been meaning to convert to DVD. I'll get round to it one day.
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post #12 of 18
9/7/07 at 3:38pm

re: Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

No updates on this, eh? Seems like an obvious choice for a re-release. Too bad. Maybe if Barker's next film is a hit...?

And while you guys are looking for outtakes from Nightbreed and Exorcist III, how about deleted footage from The Thin Red Line?
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post #13 of 18
6/2/09 at 2:41pm

re: Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

now there is an update.

Jacob

A NIGHTBREED DIRECTOR'S CUT? BY MIDIAN, IT JUST NEEDS YOUR HELP

The Official Clive Barker Resource - Revelations - News - Nightbreed Director's Cut
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post #14 of 18
6/2/09 at 9:38pm

Re: Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

It's a little more complicated than just nagging Fox.

Morgan Creek was the production entity that financed NIGHTBREED; Fox released the film through a previous distribution arrangement. So Fox may have the negative material and trims in storage, but it is in fact Morgan Creek that would have to give the yay or nay to pulling it out and assembling the cut.

Morgan Creek's library is a little complicated right now too. They had a longtime deal with WB, and most of their movies are still handled by them for DVD - most notably TRUE ROMANCE. So if, say, WB's home video department came to them and lit a fire and said they want a director's cut release for Blu-Ray, that could make things happen. However, Morgan Creek currently puts new movies out through Universal, so WB may not necessarily want to deal with a company that is no longer on their lot.

But basically, to make it concise -- WB has the DVD rights, Morgan Creek owns the copyright, Fox is likely storing the footage. Work from there.
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post #15 of 18
6/2/09 at 11:52pm

Re: Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

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Originally Posted by Mark Edward Heuck
It's a little more complicated than just nagging Fox.

Morgan Creek was the production entity that financed NIGHTBREED; Fox released the film through a previous distribution arrangement. So Fox may have the negative material and trims in storage, but it is in fact Morgan Creek that would have to give the yay or nay to pulling it out and assembling the cut.

Morgan Creek's library is a little complicated right now too. They had a longtime deal with WB, and most of their movies are still handled by them for DVD - most notably TRUE ROMANCE. So if, say, WB's home video department came to them and lit a fire and said they want a director's cut release for Blu-Ray, that could make things happen. However, Morgan Creek currently puts new movies out through Universal, so WB may not necessarily want to deal with a company that is no longer on their lot.

But basically, to make it concise -- WB has the DVD rights, Morgan Creek owns the copyright, Fox is likely storing the footage. Work from there.

I emailed Devin Faraci at CHUD and told him roughly the same thing, but didn't know about Morgan Creek's deal with Universal (are they even putting out new movies other than that one with Jane Fonda and Lindsay Lohan anymore?). Companies like Morgan Creek and Largo -- product released by Fox and Universal is now being put out on DVD by WB -- are bloody hard to keep track of.
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post #16 of 18
6/3/09 at 3:11am

Re: Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

does anyone know who the dvd producer was on the standard dvd? perhaps contacting him would be a good start.

Jacob
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post #17 of 18
6/3/09 at 8:53am

Re: Nightbreed Directors Cut Petition (see post 12)

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Originally Posted by TheBat
does anyone know who the dvd producer was on the standard dvd? perhaps contacting him would be a good start.

Jacob

Agreed..Would be an amazing release
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post #18 of 18
7/13/09 at 8:13pm
We need an extended version of NIGHTBREED and all fans know this.
The studio messed with Clive Barker and his work was not released as he seen fit.
All the information needed is at http://www.fangoria.com

http://www.fangoria.com/home/news/16-dvd-a-blu-ray/2960-nightbreed-extended-cut-update.html
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