JFK Assassination 40th Anniversary Thread - Page 12

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But all of the Kennedy theories require at least dozens, often hundreds, of participants to pull them off. And that's the kind of conspiracy that all the "buffs" want to prove. If there was a conspiracy involving Oswald and one other loser co-worker at the TBSD nobody would have cared, because that doesn't implicate the government - which is the key requirement of all the "popular" theories. (Even the Mafia and Vietnamese theories require plenty of corrupt Secret Service, CIA and FBI personnel. And the medical theories require half the staffs of Parkland Hospital and Bethesda, not to mention several of the Kennedy loyalists on the plane - several of whom never let the casket out of their sight - etc., etc., etc.)

As for people keeping secrets - on what planet? Military secrets? The Chinese, Russians and others have maintained very expensive and very successful espionage agencies for decades to steal those. Stalin knew about the first successful atom bomb test before Truman did. And national security "secrets" routinely turn up on the front pages of The New York Times and The Washington Post.

Lincoln was killed by a conspiracy - and those losers mostly sang canaries when they were caught.

The guys who pulled off the Brinks job kept their secret for nearly seven years - almost to the day when the statute of limitations would have run out. But one of them got scared and talked.

Especially given the multi-million dollar industry that the Kennedy killing has turned into, do you really think there isn't somebody with enough inside knowledge to blow the whole thing wide open who would be willing to sell his or her story? Even in the form of a posthumous memoir to avoid prosecution and "Son of Sam" laws?

A secret of that magnitude being kept for this many years would be the implausible plot point in any movie.

Again, "Two can keep a secret provided one of them is dead" has been a proverb for centuries for a reason. Human nature and historical experience show how unlikely it is that this could be coverd-up so thoroughly. Particularly by the government. I work for a state government agency, sometimes coordinate with the Feds and I still have friends from when I lived Washington and Maryland who are connected with State, the Pentagon, the Bureau and the Agency. Trust me, none of us are that good. Hell, if the CIA and FBI had the kind of near mystical powers they would have needed to pull off the Kennedy shooting as depicted by The Buffs we would have won the Cold War about 1955, and things like 9/11 would never have happen. We wish they were that skilled.

And that is, of course, quite apart from the mountain of evidence - physical, forensic, psychological - that Oswald carried out the killing on his own for his own twisted little reasons.

Regards,

Joe

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Yeah, but apparently the "Mystery Death Squad" didn't give a damn about having Oswald alive for 46 hours after the assassination, giving him ample opportunity to rat on any fellow conspirators. And Oz was paraded in front of live TV cameras many times, enabling him to freely speak to America by shouting out all kinds of plot-blowing remarks.

Instead, though, all LHO felt like saying was "I'm just a patsy"....no more. Just 4 words, that have sent CTers worldwide scrambling to prove he was telling the Gospel truth when he uttered those four pathetic words.

Some plot....let the patsy escape and then let him live for almost 2 days to spill his guts.



That's Conspiracy Myth #14A.

Not a single "Mysterious Death" has been proven to be connected to the assassination at all. And some of the ones on Mr. Marrs' list are just hilarious to begin with -- Earl Warren???

More (just for the laughs):

Here are a few hilarious (and absurd) examples from the above-linked Jim Marrs "Mystery Deaths" list:

"Charles Mentesana -- Filmed rifle other than Mannlicher-Carcano being
taken from Depository."

DVP: Ever see this film? His film does not prove a second rifle was
found in the TSBD. ... Plus: Why in the world would anyone bother
KILLING the person who filmed a short clip of a rifle? Merely because
he FILMED footage of a rifle? Does killing the filmmaker eliminate the
film? (If so, why weren't Zapruder, Nix, and Bronson rubbed out?) ~LOL~

~~~~~~~~

"Eddy Benavides -- Lookalike brother to Tippit shooting witness,
Domingo Benavides."

DVP: I guess the stupid killers couldn't tell Domingo from Eddy. Is
that why Ed was wiped out? But, then again, if the killers had been
after Domingo...the question needs to be asked: WHY?

Domingo was an excellent "Oswald Did It Alone" witness. Why in the hell
rub HIM out? (Let alone his brother? Was his mailman on the Death List
too, I ponder?)

~~~~~~~~

"William Whaley -- Cab driver who reportedly drove Oswald to Oak Cliff.
(The only Dallas taxi driver to die on duty.)"

DVP: Again, why kill Whaley? For what possible reason? We know Whaley
took Oswald to Beckley on 11/22/63 by taxicab. What does Whaley know
that can "blow the case wide open"?

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"Henry Delaune -- Brother-in-law to coroner Chetta."

DVP: Yeah, this guy must have been a MUCH better choice to knock off
than, say, Skinny Holland, or Jean Hill, or J.C. Price. How far down
the family tree is considered "too far" for Marrs and Company?

~~~~~~~~

"Abraham Zapruder -- Took famous film of JFK assassination."

DVP: Oops. I spoke too soon before. Mr. Z is on the list. ROFL. Of
course, the death squad waited 7 years to take care of Abe. And what
was the reason again? Merely because he filmed the assassination? (Or,
maybe it was because he knew DeMohrenschildt's future wife in 1959,
years prior to the assassination. Or it could just be because Marrs
needed a name beginning with "Z", to fill out an alphabet quota.)

~~~~~~~~

"J. Edgar Hoover -- FBI director who pushed "lone assassin" theory in
JFK assassination."

DVP: LOL. So, by always "pushing the LN theory", this meant that Edgar
was a THREAT to the conspirators?? Why not just rub out all of
Washington?

~~~~~~~~

"Earl Warren -- Chief Justice who reluctantly chaired Warren
Commission."

DVP: Can the "Mystery Deaths" get any sillier than this one? The man
who headed up the LN-favoring WC is (I guess) going to suddenly go on
Perry Mason and belt out a confession that the "WC is all lies! Hoffa
did it!"

~~~~~~~~

"Lee Bowers Jr. -- Witnessed men behind picket fence on Grassy Knoll."

DVP: Why would the "plotters" want to bother with killing Bowers?
Bowers, a few months prior to his 1966 death, had ALREADY TALKED (on
camera) to Mark Lane, with Bowers saying things to Lane (ON FILM no
less!) that CTers believe lead to conspiracy. So what's the point of
killing a person who has already spilled his guts? Did murdering Bowers
in a car crash suddenly UNDO his filmed remarks in Lane's movie "Rush
To Judgment"?

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"Marguerite Oswald -- Mother of accused assassin."

DVP: Died of cancer in early 1981. (Probably "injected", huh? And let's
wait more than 17 years to bump her off too, after this highly-visible
person has had ample opportunity to "blow the case sky high"! Makes
sense...if you're James Marrs.)

~~~~~~~~

That's just via a cursory look at Marrs' list of deaths. What a crock.

I'm surprised that Judy Garland's 1969 death isn't listed. She was a
good friend of JFK's. She probably "knew" something
"conspiracy"-related. ~chuckle~

David Von Pein
December 2006

THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN F. KENNEDY: A LONE-GUNMAN VIEWPOINT

Re: JFK Assassination 40th Anniversary Thread

Here's something for you to take a look at, David. I haven't even read the article, so I'm just passing it on.

Exclusive: Dallas County DA's office finds cache of JFK memorabilia | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | Latest News

The driver shot JFK clearly and obviously but the zapruder film needed to be picked apart and analyzed by someone and that someone turned out to be me.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xesq49_jfk-assassination-films-orville-nix_news 

Nix film close-up shows Greer's left arm crossing over.

I got this gif from this clip. Start it at 1:09 and see Greer quickly moving his left arm over his shoulder in unison with the headshot. The nix film was not shown close-up but when this sequence is zoomed in on the limo, this whopper is revealed. The goons covered those movements with fakery in the zfilm but could not or didn't bother with the nix film.
[IMG]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jfk__GIFSoupcom.gif[/IMG] 

THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.

The driver killed Kennedy and the Nix film provides conclusive proof to this inevitable truth. 

Mary took her pic at zframe 309 and in it, the fake blob of white is entirely missing from Roy's head because it was added during alteration to cover the gun over Greer's shoulder. Connally's reflection is accurately depicted in both the pic and film for authenticity.




The fake reflection was NOT added to the nix or muchmore films.  THERE IS NO OTHER SIDE TO THE TOP OF THE HEAD.

Yeah, cause Jackie O. and Gov. Connally would never notice the driver of their limousine taking out a gun and shooting JFK in the head. 

 

Your post is very confusing.  I googled the Nix film, and what's shown is a perspective on the opposite side of the limousine (looking towards the "grassy knoll").  But your animated gif (what does that mean, exactly?  Is it a "reconstruction"?) shows the same perspective as the Zapruder film.  So what are you showing?  The Zapruder film as you think it "should" look?  I wouldn't call that "proof".

 

This is an April Fools joke, right?  This is preposterous nonsense.

Some of this information began (I believe) with William Cooper (Sedona, Arizona), who used to give several talks a year on this (and similarly related*) topics.  I own the film of one of his seminars, recorded by my mother in the 1980s.  It's interesting, and at times a bit chilling, but I have not found anything to be conclusive, and I've watched the Zapruder film two or three hundred times in my lifetime thus far.

 

The intriguing thing about the film is that Greer's grey hair (it may actually be Kellerman, as I can't recall which SSA is which in the front of the vehicle) does appear to look like the barrel of a gun in some of the copies of the film.  And since the limousine is traveling very slowly at this point, the driver can turn around (and does so) presumably to check on the status of JFK.  As he steadies the wheel of the limousine with one hand, the other appears to move around and point toward JFK.  But appearances can be ... deceiving. ;)

 

*The military industrial complex, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the events of Roswell (1947) are other topics covered in the video I own.  These topics are at the very least interesting to me, and I've watched a lot on them over the years.

 

Greer's left ARM crosses in the nix film and that proves the silly fake reflections were added to the zfilm to hide those movements which killed jfk. It doesn't get any easier than that. This is brand new evidence that's always been availabe since the films became public. Simple zooming is all that's required to see Greer's true arm movements which completely destroy the ZTOON.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jfk__GIFSoupcom.gif 

 VIDEO FAKERY, in fact causes the headshot in the zfilm while Greer's left arm causes the headshot in the nix film.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/jfkcloserecoil.gif 

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/harrisfakeegifnormal.gif 

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/jfkslowjoltgif.gif 
 

So exactly how did Jackie O, the governor, the governor's wife, and all the Secret service men surrounding the vehicle miss the extremely LOUD gunshot that was within a few feet of their ears?


I gotta admit, of all the crazy theories, this is . . . Uhhh . . . One of em.

C''mon, Jeff, you know the answer...They were either part of the conspiracy or kept quiet to avoid causing trouble (you can never prove a conspiracy didn't exist).

I believe it was the driver.  The following recreation just about proves it:

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

It was the butler what did it.

 

Yeah, Gov. Connolly volunteered to have 5 holes punched in his body just so the SBT can take the conspiracy theorist's attention away from the fact the driver did it! The crime of the century is solved! On to the faked moon landing and crop circles, folks . .

I love you, 7Forever! You are the STUFF that reality is made of.

You solved it and I'm embarrassed to say that I don't even know about the
"Nix film".

Please inform about this, I have seen shots from that side that intrigued me very much. Good animated gif work.

Computerman
Technical Assistant
Hawaiian-TV

 

The driver shot JFK clearly and obviously but the zapruder film needed to be picked apart and analyzed by someone and that someone turned out to be me.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xesq49_jfk-assassination-films-orville-nix_news 

Nix film close-up shows Greer's left arm crossing over.

I got this gif from this clip. Start it at 1:09 and see Greer quickly moving his left arm over his shoulder in unison with the headshot. The nix film was not shown close-up but when this sequence is zoomed in on the limo, this whopper is revealed. The goons covered those movements with fakery in the zfilm but could not or didn't bother with the nix film.


THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.

The driver killed Kennedy and the Nix film provides conclusive proof to this inevitable truth. 

So now he's posting to praise himself? Did someone forget their sock puppet?

Sorry 7Forever, no matter how many times you post the same message, I'm not taking you seriously until you answer how the other people in the car missed a gun shot from the front freaking seat!

Don't feed the troll.

Your post is preposterous nonsense.

lol, seriously.LOL
 

  
 

The red blob of blood mist is 100% fake as a 3 dollar bill

 The red blob is fake because it appears before the shot and after the bullet connects and you can see the mist disappear leaving the fake flap.



 

Grey streak fake out by CIA GOON SQUAD

OVER, THEN ACROSS=FAKE.


ACROSS WHEN IT'S NEEDED.

Bill Greer was jfk's real assassin. Sad but true, irrefutable fact.
 

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/ 

FRAME 241 showing both hands close together right before he passes gun.

Greer passes gun and frame 258 showing covered gun by driver's door.

 

Gifs are forever

Gifs have made the case against this goon, Greer who was Kennedy's real assassin. Over and over and over an over we can see this killer slowing for only himself and then speeding off to Parkland.

Greer's left arm crosses over in nix film.
 

JFK LANCER participates in cover-up to hide jfk's real assassin

http://www.jfklancer.com/greer.html
They do not allow it to advance to 313 because it would recoil with the double image.


 

Simple geometry debunks the Grassy snow job by Oliver Stone

The driver has the only angle with which to create the right rear exit that was there.
FROM THE MOVIE


Greer's angle was perfect.


 

Connally saw Greer shoot jfk

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized Greer shot Kennedy.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.
 

Frame 319 is the gun bleached in white

OK Robert you have made your case.  Didn't convince anyone.  Time to move onto the next theory.....

Robert, please stop spamming this home theater forum with your ludicrous insane theories.  Find someplace where somebody cares.  Nobody buys this bunch of malarky here.