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Unsolved History: "Kennedy III: Magic Bullet"

I just watched the DVD version of the compelling Discovery Channel "Unsolved History" documentary (from November 2004), "JFK: Beyond The Magic Bullet", which PROVES beyond ALL doubt that the SBT was certainly a doable act from Oswald's 60-foot perch at the TSBD.

The remarkable test used simulated, but highly-accurate human "torsos", including two complete mock skeletal structures, which were built based on each victims' physical characteristics. The test resulted in the Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5mm Western Cartridge bullet passing through both torsos and emerging in good condition (but not as pristine as CE399, which is the so-called "Magic Bullet" or "Stretcher Bullet").

But the likely reason this test bullet didn't mirror CE399 exactly is that the simulated shot accidentally struck more ribs within the Connally model than actually were broken in JBC's own body on 11/22. (Which was no doubt due to the fact that the gunman performing the recreation missed the target on JFK's upper back slightly (he hit the torso slightly left of the target representing the actual back wound).

But even so, the simulated bullet still wasn't nearly as deformed as many/most CTers seem to feel CE399 HAD to be after causing seven wounds in two men.

The Connally back wound was also "elongated" (keyhole-shaped) in nature, just exactly like the real deal from 1963.

This impressive Discovery Channel demonstration, coupled with Dale Myers' computer animations favoring the SBT's likelihood, coupled also with Dr. Lattimer's recent tests showing that the bullet could definitely have been "tumbling" upon exiting JFK's throat, illustrates that 40 years of CT cries claiming "The SBT Is Impossible" are obviously dead wrong.

And the CT argument of: How could JFK's front-of-neck wound be small & round as described by the Parkland witnesses? can easily be explained as well. --- The bullet began to tumble upon exiting the throat/neck of the President, and not while inside the President. An entirely reasonable and feasible interpretation, IMO, because we're talking about 23 inches between JFK and JBC. And if it started to tumble WITHIN JFK's body, we're only talking about a few inches difference in total tumbling time. A very small distance of space, and a negligible difference. **

** = Footnote on this tumbling matter -- Upon re-watching the "SBT recreation" in the Discovery Channel Magic-Bullet program, and pausing/freezing the slo-mo video of the recreation, it can easily be verified that the bullet exits the JFK neck wound straight, and then begins to tumble into Connally's back. You can freeze-frame the bullet in mid-air between JFK & JBC, and the bullet is travelling STRAIGHT (not tumbling) upon exiting the Kennedy neck mock-up.

The SBT has been PROVEN a likely possibility given the known wound locations. Because, now, after seeing such successful tests, we would have to believe the even MORE unlikely scenario (IF the SBT is not how the shooting occurred) that includes a SEPARATE back wound striking Connally at PRECISELY the same spot where a possible SBT shot would also have struck him. What are the odds of that?

Another very impressive test in the Discovery Ch. program was the firing of a Western Cartridge (Oswald-like) bullet through a solid block of wood (log) -- with the bullet penetrating more that half the way through the lengthy log and emerging in EXACTLY the same condition as CE399! It could have been a precise duplicate for CE399, right down to the lead oozing slightly from the core base.

That "log" test, again, illustrates just how tough the M-C 6.5 ammunition is. That test is nearly as impressive as the final "SBT" torso test. Because the bullet exactly mirrored CE399 after striking nothing but a hard, solid object!

Do the conspiracy theorists here who watched that excellent Discovery Channel program STILL deny even the remote possibility of the Single-Bullet Theory being a viable scenario in the JFK assassination?

If so, I'm at a loss to see how you can still cling to the idea that the SBT was/is "pure fiction" (at least from the standpoint of the likelihood that CE399 could have emerged in its known near-"pristine" condition, which has always been scoffed at by the conspiracy theorists).
post #272 of 389
SBT notwithstanding, I saw Jackie try to climb onto the trunk before they even left the Plaza to recover a part of his head. That can't be from an entrance wound.

Glenn
post #273 of 389
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SBT notwithstanding, I saw Jackie try to climb onto the trunk before they even left the Plaza to recover a part of his head. That can't be from an entrance wound.

Glenn,
There's no definitive evidence to substantiate the idea that Jackie went to the trunk to retrieve a piece of head. She certainly never testified to that fact.

A MUCH more likely explanation is that she was simply trying to remove herself from the horror in front of her at the time. It was a panicked reaction -- to instinctively get out/away from the carnage.

To *think* she actually had the wherewithal and enough composure (two seconds after seeing her husband's head explode inches in front of her face) to retrieve a portion of JFK's head is, IMO, simply unrealistic. And not logical.

Also -- To those who argue that because she "turned over" a head fragment to a doctor at the hospital, that fact verifies her "head-retrieving" episode on the deck of the limousine -- I'd submit that it proves nothing of the kind. Jackie was "cradling" and handling JFK's head for several minutes on the ride to the hospital. She even testified that she attempted "to hold his head on". A small piece of brain/skull could easily have been obtained by Mrs. Kennedy during the ride to account for the head fragment she relinquished @ Parkland. *

* = A morbid topic, to be sure. And I apologize if anyone was enjoying a meal or snack while reading this post.

You know, a very sad part of JFK assassination "research" is how "de-humanizing" it can get at times. After viewing all the gory autopsy photos of the President, the tendency can easily be acquired to look upon such material as NOT a human being who was brutally murdered -- but, instead, to regard the pictures as simply "evidence" in the case, and nothing more.

I've been guilty of this too. But I supposed it's bound to happen, if you stare at this stuff long enough.

But, still, kind of sad nonetheless.
post #274 of 389
Has anyone ever heard of Michael Dresser? He's a syndicated radio talk-show host based in Alaska.

I found this JFK-related item involving Dresser (which is excellent news for "Lone Nut" advocates, like myself, because Mr. Bugliosi's book has been long-awaited by this writer). .......

"Michael Dresser's special guest on Saturday (Nov. 20, 2004) was Vincent T. Bugliosi, who is finishing his 2,000-page book on JFK's assassination to be published next November (2005) by W.W. Norton, called Final Verdict."

http://www.themichaeldressershow.com/books.200411.htm

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Did anyone happen (by chance) to hear that 11/2004 interview with Dresser/Bugliosi? And does anyone have any idea how a written transcript of Dresser's older shows/interviews can be obtained? (I've tried the website, where a Demo Audio of his show claims old transcripts ARE located, but no luck. The site URL has changed slightly since the Demo was created, and I can't find any "old shows" link.)

Thanks (anybody) for any information.
post #275 of 389
I came across THIS MP3 CD recently via an on-line site. Looks like it has quite a few clips I've never seen offered elsewhere.

Eric Paddon -- Do you, by chance, have this particular CD? If so, is it of good quality? Thanks.

post #276 of 389
I thought perhaps some people here might like a good laugh (not that the murder of JFK is anything to laugh about -- but the following "theory" certainly is).

There's a conspiracy theorist on a certain semi-popular JFK website who is claiming that a "Top Secret Second Autopsy" was performed on JFK in the middle of the night AFTER the "Official" autopsy was done. .......

http://gjerde.name/bkg/jfk/JFKSecondAutopsy.pdf

He chimed in with this passage recently on a JFK Forum.......

>> "And when the conspirators finally learned that there that would be no open casket funeral after all, they took the body from the casket in the White House Saturday evening, and did a second autopsy, during which the frontal portion of JFKs head was mutilated, and new sets of autopsy photographs and X-rays were taken. That is why we have two sets of wound descriptions – the Parkland-type-wounds and the 'autopsy protocol/autopsy photographs'-type-wounds. It is as simple and horrific as that."

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I, being a "Lone Assassin" advocate, couldn't help but put in my two cents on this silly theory. Such "CT" madness should stop soon enough, however, when Mr. Vincent T. Bugliosi finally releases his massive book, "Final Verdict", all about the assassination.

I felt compelled to chime in ...........

DVP: "This whole idea is nonsense. .... When they "mutilated" the front portion of JFK's head -- just HOW was this accomplished? Did they take a Carcano rifle and shoot JFK again? Or did they use a ball-peen hammer and just start whacking away? This theory is truly ----->

And: Was it Just the BODY that was removed from the casket/White House in the middle of the night? Or did the evil plotters pick up the whole casket and walk out the door with it -- in full view (unquestionably) of dozens of guards all around the White House, securing every last inch of the place during the timeframe in question? And what about the little matter of placing the body BACK into the casket (if just the body was "stolen", which is what I think is being implied here)?

Or -- how 'bout this for a new theory (or maybe it isn't new at all) --- JFK's body really ISN'T IN HIS CASKET RIGHT NOW! It was NEVER put back into the casket at the White House after the body was pilfered. The plotters figured their luck had probably just run out -- after all, they WERE able to lift a 170-pound man out of his casket in one of the most heavily-guarded places on the planet just after a Presidential assassination -- as they slipped passed, evidently, the one guard at the door, who must've looked just like the inept Barney Fife. .... Therefore, the body was disposed of after the smashing of the front of the head by the plotters, and the "correct LN" pics were taken after this head demolition session. .... A 170-pound bag of sand is buried at Arlington under the name "John F. Kennedy".

This lame-brained theory is just plain STUPID. And I'd think anybody would be thoroughly embarrassed at the very idea of even purporting such ridiculous theories that could not possibly have occurred in a million years.

Nor would any such major risk-taking even be NECESSARY, even if there WAS a conspiracy plan in place (which, of course, there wasn't). Because the plotters could have just FAKED the real photographs, which most CTers think occurred anyway.

The notion that all of this secretive activity could have possibly taken place in the WHITE HOUSE ITSELF is preposterous enough -- but to actually have people honestly and truly BELIEVE such crap is even further beyond comprehension!"
post #277 of 389
I just love it when they screw these things up. The 2nd autopsy was done on the plane trip from Dallas to DC.

Glenn
post #278 of 389
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That CD is just the usual stuff if you already have a goodly amount of JFK material. I think it's actually TV audio material taken from the 1988 A+E replay of NBC coverage.
post #279 of 389
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That CD is just the usual stuff if you already have a goodly amount of JFK material. I think it's actually TV audio material taken from the 1988 A+E replay of NBC coverage.

OK, Eric. Thank you.
A few of those LBJ phone-call recordings looked unfamiliar to me, though. So, I figure what the hay...it's just $9.99 with Free S&H -- so I put an order in. (And they don't make you print out your own homemade Jewel Case inserts. )

I'm not entirely sure I have all of these excerpts............

LBJ 631129 1655 ET - Speaker of the House Otto Passman Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 631129 1735 ET (Approx) - Advisor Abe Fortas Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 631129 1837 ET - House Majority Leader Carl Albert Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 631129 2030 ET - Senator Thomas Kuchel Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 631130 - CIA Director McCone Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 631130 - Federal Reserve Board Chmn. William Martin Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 631202 - Washington Post Pres. Katherine Graham Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 631206 - Senator B. Everett Jordan Phone Call (Except).mp3
LBJ 631208 - Mrs. Senator Bill Green Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 631218 - Governor John Connally Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 640501 - Press Sec'y George Reedy Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 640927 - National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 661226 - Press Secretary Bill Moyers Phone Call.mp3
LBJ 670202 - Acting Attorney General Ramsey Clark Phone Call.mp3

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This one especially interests me (I don't recall hearing this one before)........

LBJ 631218 - Governor John Connally Phone Call.mp3
post #280 of 389
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I just love it when they screw these things up. The 2nd autopsy was done on the plane trip from Dallas to DC.

Oh yeah, I forgot. The plotters simply shoved the grieving widow aside, and went to work. And Jackie either never said a single word about this odd activity; or just happened not to notice it taking place in the close confines of the Boeing 707 jetliner.
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Anyone who is interested in collecting various JFK-related items ('completists' particularly) might very well be interested to know that the MP3 CD pictured above contains a very intriguing radio piece that I'd never heard in its entirety before -- that being the entire 19-minute radio program via New Orleans radio station WDSU, in which Lee Harvey Oswald debated Carlos Bringuier and Ed Butler on August 21, 1963, just 3 months before Oswald murdered President Kennedy.

Oswald is quite intelligent-sounding in this debate with Bringuier and Butler, and that's something that Mr. Butler, in fact, has pointed out as well on different JFK documentary programs that he's been affiliated with over the years.

Hearing the entire debate is quite chilling really -- especially knowing what was about to happen just three months afterward.

I think, too, that snippets and clips like this one with Oswald help to glean (at least partially) a little more insight into just WHO this odd, 24-year-old former defector to Russia really was, and what his beliefs were.

This is a guy who liked to spout off about his 1-man chapter of the FPCC (Fair Play For Cuba Committee) every chance he got. And it's interesting to note that when asked how many New Orleans FPCC members there were, Oswald claimed he "couldn't give out that information". It was some kind of major secret evidently. When, in fact, he was no doubt embarrassed by the total statistics he would have had to reveal -- 1 Member (the self-appointed chapter head, which was Oswald -- and that's it). Oswald is labelled the "Local Secretary" of the New Orleans FPCC Chapter during the radio interview/debate, which is kind of funny.

Oswald had at least a couple of chances on radio (and even TV) in 1963 to do his FPCC spouting, too. I guess he was considered by radio and TV hosts around New Orleans as a bit of a "curiosity", for lack of a better term.

Otherwise, I cannot figure out for the life of me just exactly WHY anyone would want to waste time interviewing this self-professed Marxist. They obviously were simply curious about WHY in the world anybody in their right mind would desire to flee the United States and voluntarily choose to live amongst Communists during the height of the Cold War and why anyone would be advocating "fair trade for Cuba", in support of one of the most hated men in the world (at least in the USA), Fidel Castro, just one year after the Cuban Missile Crisis, which had the nation's population at large wondering if they'd ever witness another sunrise after mid-October of 1962.

Listening to Oswald sing the praises of such Communist-led nations gives some further insight, IMO, into his potential motivation for doing what he ultimately accomplished on November 22, 1963.

This guy, although quite intelligent-sounding indeed on the matters of the Soviet Union and Cuba, was a real screwball. THAT is a certainty. And the more I hear him speak out on these Communist matters, the more I'm convinced that Oswald was just exactly the type of individual who (alone) just might want to take a potshot at the leader of the country he tried to defect from a short time prior.

End of sermon.

BTW -- I've now noted that a portion (8 minutes) of that 19-minute Oswald debate can be accessed on-line. You can hear those eight minutes by clicking below......

http://www.jfk-online.com/lhodebate.mp3


And you can read the entire written transcript of the debate right here.......

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfk...its/stuck3.htm


The above CD also contains a lengthy 24-minute telephone conversation from 1964 between LBJ and Senator Richard Russell (who worked on the Warren Commission at the behest of LBJ, despite Russell's vigorous objections to doing so). Very interesting stuff, with crusty old LBJ showing his teeth and cussin' up a storm on occasion during the conversation. Russell, who also at times wasn't exactly saintly in his language during his career, gets in a few expletives too, as he complains bitterly about that "damn Warren Commission job" that he had just completed.
post #282 of 389
Well we have another Oliver-Stone-like film coming out on the JFK assassination:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060104/...BhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

So this guy says it was a hit paid for by the Cubans.

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Keenan, 81, said he was convinced Kennedy's successor, Lyndon Johnson, blocked further investigation because proof of a Cuban link would put him under irresistible pressure to invade the island, a year after the Cuban missile crisis had brought the United States and Soviet Union to the brink of nuclear war.

"Most likely there would have been an invasion of Cuba which could have had unknown consequences for the whole world," he told journalists at the screening, saying that was why Johnson preferred to accept Oswald was "a crazed lone Marxist assassin."

Interviewed for the film, Alexander Haig, then a U.S. military adviser and later secretary of state, quoted Johnson as saying "we simply must not allow the American people to believe that Fidel Castro could have killed our president."

"And the reason was that there would be a right-wing uprising in America, which would keep the Democratic party out of power for two generations," Haig said.
post #283 of 389
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Oh yeah, I forgot. The plotters simply shoved the grieving widow aside, and went to work.


Right. Can't let the fact that the casket had an honor guard and that either Jackie or at least one Kennedy aide sat vigil with it for the entire trip and that it was never once out of sight of the President's partisans get in the way of a good "theory." (The casket was inside the passenger compartment of the plane, not in the cargo hold.)

Regards,

Joe
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Re: JFK Assassination 40th Anniversary Thread

JFK THREAD RESURRECTION (just for the heck of it)..............

Some light JFK-related reading, if anyone should be so inclined. (I really enjoyed doing this first one linked here.) ......

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-re...e=ReviewDetail

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...8dae7b150da043
post #285 of 389

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So this guy says it was a hit paid for by the Cubans.
There was a lengthy documentary outlining this theory on Brit TV a couple of weeks ago.

If you'll permit a Brit's views on this continuing debate, I still can't see any conclusive evidence that points away from the lone gunman theory. Before anyone shouts me down, please have a look at my reasoning:

(1) We can all agree that the simplest explanation (whether you agree with it or not) is that Oswald acted alone.

(2) Occam's Razor dictates that basically, you should always take the simplest explanation as correct.

(3) So what is the evidence that the simplest explanation won't do?

(4) There are two basic pieces of evidence. The first (that nobody denies) is that a lot of groups with the capacity to carry out an assassination (Cuban refugees, mobsters, the Cuban government, etc) all had a motive. The second is that the nature of the assassination could indicate more than one marksman.

(5) With regard to the groups with motive to kill, there is good evidence (though mostly circumstantial or uncorroborated) that various groups had talked seriously about an assassination and it is entirely possible that plans were being drawn up. There is also no doubt that Oswald was involved in some of these groups. But nobody has provided firm proof that one group actually did order the assassination that actually took place. And for me, the clinching proof is that equally plausible cases can be made for several groups as well as for the lone gunman. Show me a case for e.g. the local mobsters organising the assassination, and I can show you equally plausible cases of the Cubans, etc, etc. No single case (including, I admit, the lone gunman theory) is 100% convincing.

(6) With regard to the mutiple gunman theory, it's true that some learned reports have found evidence for this. There are also learned reports that have found proof of a single gunman. So the evidence from the two groups cancels each other out. All we can say for certain is that Oswald had the capability and (in spite of various 'authorotative' claims to the contrary) he could have got the shots off in that space of time. But the evidence of whether this is actually what happened isn't 100% - but there again, neither is the multiple gunman theory watertight.

(7) Therefore, in the face of conflicting evidence, go for the simplest explanation - namely, that Oswald did it by himself.

FWIW, this is what I think happened:

(1) Oswald was originally a US spy who 'defected' to the USSR.

(2) Unfortunately, the US secret services didn't really adequately screen Oswald for psychological stability (let's face it, this wasn't the first nor was it the last time this has happened). In the USSR, he began to waiver in his loyalties.

(3) Oswald gets hauled back to the USA and is now something of an embarrassment to the secret service. He gets a relatively low-grade intelligence job infiltrating the local mob. At the same time he's told to get friendly with the Cubans - he sells this to the mob as infiltrating the enemy and to the Cubans he offers insights into the workings of the Cuban exiles.

(4) Oswald gets the charm offensive from the Cubans and begins to feel that he is more likely to earn their respect that the US secret service's. So he takes it into his head to do something that the mob would love to see (and have been discussing and possibly tentatively planning) and which will please Castro - namely, kill President Kennedy.

(5) Oswald goes through with the act, and this horrifies the mob. They didn't plan the assassination but are petrified that when Oswald talks, he will implicate them. Accordingly, Ruby (who knows he is in poor health) murders Oswald before he can say anything. If Ruby hadn't done this, chances are that the Cubans would have killed Oswald anyway.

(6) Perhaps the plans re: Kennedy went deeper than this. Perhaps various senators, members of the government, etc, were involved. But if they were (and the evidence is often only meaningful in hindsight and has other, more plausible explanations) then this was for something that was being *planned* - Oswald (if you'll pardon the phrase) jumped the gun.
post #286 of 389

Re: JFK Assassination 40th Anniversary Thread

Interesting theory, Andrew. And it's certainly much more credible than almost all other theories on the subject....particularly the "1-Patsy, Multi-Gun" nonsensical theories spouted by the Jim Garrisons and Ollie Stones of the world. (And let's not forget abot Bob Groden's 10-Shot theory, where NO shots came from the Oswald window...brilliant plan there huh? Nobody'll notice that little slip-up in the Patsy Plot, will they? LOL.)

There are, of course, problems with your single-gunman theory too, Andy.

There's certainly no verifiable evidence that Oswald was a "U.S. Spy"....or that he was "hauled back to the USA" (which, I'm assuming by your verbiage, indicates you think was against his will?).

Oswald was an ultra-oddball -- that is a certain fact. But he was also pretty much a "loner". Everything points to this being true...right down to his silly attempt to make everyone in New Orleans believe he was the "Secretary" of a multi-member "chapter" of the FPCC in New Orleans.

You can listen to each of Oswald's two 1963 "Radio Debates" at the links below; fascinating stuff. The debates include Oswald refusing to state exactly how many members were in the New Orleans "chapter" of the FPCC when asked that question. Evidently it was a major secret or something. In reality, Lee would have been embarrassed if he had revealed the actual number of members -- 1. ......

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/audio/oswald1.rm

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/audio/oswald2_1.rm

In the final analysis, there's not a shred of proof that Oswald was tied in with any other behind-the-curtain henchmen/plotters when it comes to the events of November 22nd, 1963. Every piece of hard physical evidence indicates it was Oswald (alone) who shot JFK and Officer Tippit that day in Dallas.

People who still insist otherwise after 43 years are merely fooling themselves into believing something that a Mount Everest of physical and circumstantial evidence does not support...and never did support.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...28ba8a5a51dd42

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-re...e=ReviewDetail

http://www.amazon.com/FAMOUS-DATES-I...m/KQOLQ16IYM9H

http://www.amazon.com/JOHN-F-KENNEDY.../23ISVQ4JAFW0G
post #287 of 389

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There's certainly no verifiable evidence that Oswald was a "U.S. Spy"....or that he was "hauled back to the USA" (which, I'm assuming by your verbiage, indicates you think was against his will?).
A few years ago the BBC did a very sober and deliberately non-speculative documentary on what was known about Oswald and could be verified in court. There is indeed no verifiable evidence, just a lot of circumstantial evidence that together points to Oswald being sent as a spy. I think this explanation makes the most sense, but I would be the first to admit it's not 100% certain (but there again, very little in the JFK assassination is). With regard to him being hauled back, I meant that the US secret service decided to get him out of the USSR before his cover was blown (the soviets were always suspicious of him). There is some evidence this was the case, but I agree it isn't watertight. It's also possible that Oswald was cast adrift when he returned to the USA, but I think the secret service connection remains plausible. Either way, it doesn't really alter the thrust of the argument. Oswald probably had enough plots in his head with or without official involvement.

One final thought - if the assassination of Kennedy was such a big, well-planned operation, how come so many people close the the conspirators are willing to talk about it? Can you think of any other major assassination where such a large number of witnesses to the planning can be found? Just a thought ...
post #288 of 389

Re: JFK Assassination 40th Anniversary Thread

Oswald fired three shots from the southeast corner window of the 6th Floor of his workplace (the Texas School Book Depository). The evidence supporting this fact is overwhelming. And it's obvious that his second shot (aka the "Single-Bullet Theory" shot) didn't produce the badly-damaged bullet fragments that were discovered on 11/22/63 in the limo's front seat. And, IMO, Oswald's first (missed) shot could not have caused the limo fragments either.

If a missed shot, moving at approx. 2,000fps had struck the limo's windshield and/or chrome strip (which were slightly damaged during the shooting), that bullet would almost certainly have penetrated the glass and/or chrome area of the car. Such a full-velocity shot would not have simply dented the chrome, broken up badly, and then scraped the windshield. The FBI's Robert Frazier (who did extensive work for the Warren Commission after the assassination) testified to this, in fact.

That leaves only the "head shot" to account for the front-seat bullet fragments. Oswald's third and fatal shot struck President Kennedy's head, causing the now-severely-slowed-down bullet fragments coming from JFK's head wound to continue to move forward, where the two fragments each struck one of the ultimately-damaged areas at the front of the car (windshield and chrome).
post #289 of 389

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Colton......

I immediately recognized the words in your post above as being words that I had written...for this review here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-re...e=ReviewDetail

I'm flattered you'd copy-&-paste my words into a JFK post here....but don't you think proper author's credit should be issued as well?
post #290 of 389

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Slight step aside: Tomorrow, Nov. 7th, this thread itself has a 3-year anniversary.
Just for the record.


Cees
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Slight step aside: Tomorrow, Nov. 7th, this thread itself has a 3-year anniversary.
Do you remember where you were when the thread started?
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Cees
post #293 of 389

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Originally Posted by David VP
Colton......
I'm flattered you'd copy-&-paste my words into a JFK post here....but don't you think proper author's credit should be issued as well?

Ouch!

You've been plagiarized David, doesn't that mean you've made it!?
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post #295 of 389

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You've been plagiarized David, doesn't that mean you've made it!?

I'm not sure. Maybe so.

Or: It could just mean that I've been plagiarized.

I do, however, wonder about Colton's motives for pasting my exact verbiage into a post marked solely as his own.

But, heck, he didn't blast my comments to Kingdom Come like many people are wont to do -- so I guess he agrees with them.

Maybe I had-oughta be pleased instead of miffed, huh?
post #296 of 389

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David, I wasn't taking credit. I thought it was an interesting point, but I should have put it in quotes.

- Colton
post #297 of 389

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David, I wasn't taking credit. I thought it was an interesting point, but I should have put it in quotes.

OK. Fair enough.
post #298 of 389

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No use creating a thread when one already exists.....

Hey the terms "director Stone" and "JFK assassination" are together again in tonight's PBS American Experience episode.

Fortunately it's Robert Stone and not that other director.

'Oswald's Ghost' explores JFK assassination theories | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | Arts & Entertainment

I'm wondering how good this new doc will be. Looks like the DVD will go on sale tomorrow (Tuesday 15 Jan 08).
post #299 of 389

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Dennis, I am certain that this edition of The American Experience will rock. Everybody, tune in to PBS tonight (check local listings).
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In Boise it's broadcast in HD on 4-5 at 7 PM and repeating at 10 PM MT. I've already gone into the back of my arsenal and retrieved my trusty (and historic) 1938 Carcano for the screening.
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