Home Theater Forum › Home Theater Forum › Entertainment › Movies (Theatrical) › Worst Movies Ever Made?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Worst Movies Ever Made? - Page 11

post #301 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Those top 5 just seem obvious and lazy really
post #302 of 345

Re: The Five Worst Movies Ever Made

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tino
Worst films ever? That person needs to see more films.

Yup. Honestly, Over Her Dead Body wasn't bad - I thought it was kinda entertaining! :hide:

But any list of "worst ever" that reaches back no farther than 2002 or so is lazy and useless...
post #303 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

I'd like to nominate "X-Files: I Want to Believe".

I'd like my $9 and those 2 hours back, please. I won't spoil anything, but if you're an X-Files fan, like me, you're gonna be disappointed.

Go see The Dark Knight again instead.
post #304 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Hercules (1983) with Lou Ferrigno. He throws a bear into space, nuff said.

Treasure of the Four Crowns (1983) Bad 3D Indiana Jones wanna be.

Xanadu (1980) High School Play level bad acting, but Gene Kelly makes it watchable.

The Perils of Gwendoline in the Land of the Yik Yak (1984) Just an excuse for Tawny Kataen to be naked for 2 hours. Which isn't always a bad thing but....

JFK (1991) As a result of this film many normally intelligent people seem to think that this nonsense is true!

Doug
post #305 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBirds
I'd like to nominate "X-Files: I Want to Believe".

I'd like my $9 and those 2 hours back, please. I won't spoil anything, but if you're an X-Files fan, like me, you're gonna be disappointed.

Go see The Dark Knight again instead.

Really!? If the last season of the X Files were a movie, id put it on this list. Hope its not worse than that.
post #306 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Saw parts of Van helsing last night on TBS, this has got to be somewhere on a list.
post #307 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkBirds
Go see The Dark Knight again instead.
It's a good film, but sitting through the whole overlong affair one time was enough to make me feel like I've already seen it again.

(We all have our pet peeves.)

M.
post #308 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
Hercules (1983) with Lou Ferrigno. He throws a bear into space, nuff said.

Don't forget that to get to Hell you must walk accross the rainbow bridge!

That movie is hilarious!
post #309 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

With regard to my comments on The Missing in post 229 --
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Reuben
Richard, I think I'm beginning to understand some of your criteria. You're much harsher when you think crap is masquerading as quality than when it's just . . . crap. You sort of remind of me of Dwight MacDonald (in critic mode, not political mode, I hasten to add ), which is probably not a name people remember anymore. M.
I'm not a film critic, but the name sounds familiar ... who is Dwight MacDonald and what do you mean by referencing this person?

Take out "crap" and replace it with "political correctness" or "reverse discrimination" or "agenda-driven." Take your pick of the above. It will be still be crap, but perhaps you'll understand how it came to be crap.

As for my criteria, I insist on good writing that meets professional standards. A screenplay is the foundation on which a film is built. If the script is compromised, so is the film. The advantages of a big budget, the latest technology, and the best director can not disguise an inept, amateur, flawed, or compromised screenplay. Story and character are everything. To often, the underlying meaning of a screenplay / film is dictated by a committee's or a bureaucrat's (someone not involved in the creative process) personal whims or personal agenda regardless of whether the story and concept support it.

I find that audiences are not as analytical about stories as film makers, who approach their work from a disciplined perspective. This is as it should be. But ask yourself the same question an actor or director does when he or she is handed a script: who are these characters and what's the story about? When audiences ask this question, they refer to the clear text. When film makers ask this question, they refer to the subtext, because the subtext calls on their discipline.

To illustrate the point, I will quote from your own signature:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Reuben
"What kind of movies would there be if everyone in them had to do what we thought they should do?" -- Roger Ebert
The answer is politically correct movies. Study the interaction between Magdelena Gilkeson and Samuel Jones in The Missing, Elena and Alejandro "Zorro" Diego in The Legend of Zorro, the new M and new James Bond and Vesper in Casino Royale, just for starters. Listen -- I mean really listen -- to the harangue, the lecturing. the editorializing that passes for dialog in these films. The female characters are admirable, while the male heroes are deconstructed into dummies, failures, wusses, and deadbeats.

If James Bond behaves like a meathead who needs to be dressed down and taken care of by his M., then an agenda is being imposed that doesn't belong there, and he is no longer James Bond, he's something else using the same name. Understand that Bond is a clearly defined creative entity with some latitude for interpretation. For contrast, study the interaction between Bond and M, and Bond and Countess Tracy, in On Her Majesty's Secret Service for an example of relationships that make dramatic sense, that are creatively viable, and enjoyable to watch. There are a thousand different ways to define characters, to motivate them and to interact them: the producers of Casino Royale (2006) chose one particular way that advances a personal agenda but is anathema to the very definition of Bond. Setting aside for a moment other problems with the script, it was possible to write the characters differently and still deliver the same exciting action and conflict.
post #310 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
Hercules (1983) with Lou Ferrigno. He throws a bear into space, nuff said.

Treasure of the Four Crowns (1983) Bad 3D Indiana Jones wanna be.

Xanadu (1980) High School Play level bad acting, but Gene Kelly makes it watchable.

The Perils of Gwendoline in the Land of the Yik Yak (1984) Just an excuse for Tawny Kataen to be naked for 2 hours. Which isn't always a bad thing but....

JFK (1991) As a result of this film many normally intelligent people seem to think that this nonsense is true!

Doug

The first four choices are gems but I simply cannot agree with the last. We can argue day and night about its nonsensical nature et al, but to claim its one of the worst movies ever made is a serious error.

It is one of the best written, edited and scored films ever, imho, not to mention the uniformly excellent performances throughout. Its fearless, ambitious direction should be noted, as well. The craftsmanship, in short, is fantastic.

It's political and social overtones, on the other hand, can be a point of contention between folks like you and I forever.

And while we're on the subject, I am intelligent and attentive enough to know what's real and what's not real in a movie based on true events -- I think most moviegoers are, too. It's a movie after all -- not a documentary. There are many "what ifs?" in JFK. I think the best thing about it is it made people start thinking about the assassination again. I read every book I could get my hands on after seeing it. It made me and many other Americans want to know more.
post #311 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett_M
The first four choices are gems but I simply cannot agree with the last. We can argue day and night about its nonsensical nature et al, but to claim its one of the worst movies ever made is a serious error.

It is one of the best written, edited and scored films ever, imho, not to mention the uniformly excellent performances throughout. Its fearless, ambitious direction should be noted, as well. The craftsmanship, in short, is fantastic.

It's political and social overtones, on the other hand, can be a point of contention between folks like you and I forever.

And while we're on the subject, I am intelligent and attentive enough to know what's real and what's not real in a movie based on true events -- I think most moviegoers are, too. It's a movie after all -- not a documentary. There are many "what ifs?" in JFK. I think the best thing about it is it made people start thinking about the assassination again. I read every book I could get my hands on after seeing it. It made me and many other Americans want to know more.


Sorry to be misunderstood. I didn't mean to say that JFK was one of the worst movies, rather one of my most hated movies.

It is a very skillfully made movie, however the movie makes up facts out of whole cloth. Even things that are "on the record". The trial for instance has a number of statements in it that were never actually said in that court room. Yet in interviews to this day Stone still says that everything in the movie is true. Hogwash.

Doug
post #312 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett_M
I think most moviegoers are, too. It's a movie after all -- not a documentary.

Thats funny, cause from my personal observations i find that most people are dumb. They couldnt find their way out of a paper sack.
Case and point, when Apollo 13 was out, i had said how exciting it was even though i knew the guys lived. The lady i was talking to was mad, cause she hadnt seen it, and didnt know the ending. I had ruined it. Hello, it should have been common knowledge. You know how many people think America fought the Russians in WWII? Many, some are even college educated!
General, well rounded, basic stuff. Its not like i asked who the Marx Brothers are. Sadly, no one uder the age of 35 seems to know, these days.
post #313 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

ST. ELMO'S FIRE. Pretty much anything with Andrew McCarthy in it
post #314 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Cool World (only film I've ever walked out of)

27 Dresses (even my wife admitted it was a turd)
post #315 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Atkins
Cool World (only film I've ever walked out of)

Did you see the part the cat fell off the roof? The shot goes through his mouth as he falls, and out his butt. Best part of the movie, and i hate it too!
post #316 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickER
Did you see the part the cat fell off the roof? The shot goes through his mouth as he falls, and out his butt. Best part of the movie, and i hate it too!

I've already forced myself to forget everything about the film, other than the fact that I actually paid to see it.
post #317 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
Sorry to be misunderstood. I didn't mean to say that JFK was one of the worst movies, rather one of my most hated movies.

It is a very skillfully made movie, however the movie makes up facts out of whole cloth. Even things that are "on the record". The trial for instance has a number of statements in it that were never actually said in that court room. Yet in interviews to this day Stone still says that everything in the movie is true. Hogwash.

Doug

Most hated. Gotcha. The trial, the "facts" -- it made for a good movie.
post #318 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Atkins
Cool World (only film I've ever walked out of)

Best part of Cool World for me? When the nightgown falls onto Kim Basinger and her nipples get hard. The movie sucked hard, too.
post #319 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickER
Thats funny, cause from my personal observations i find that most people are dumb. They couldnt find their way out of a paper sack.
Case and point, when Apollo 13 was out, i had said how exciting it was even though i knew the guys lived. The lady i was talking to was mad, cause she hadnt seen it, and didnt know the ending. I had ruined it. Hello, it should have been common knowledge. You know how many people think America fought the Russians in WWII? Many, some are even college educated!
General, well rounded, basic stuff. Its not like i asked who the Marx Brothers are. Sadly, no one uder the age of 35 seems to know, these days.

Touche.
post #320 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickER
Thats funny, cause from my personal observations i find that most people are dumb. They couldnt find their way out of a paper sack.
Case and point, when Apollo 13 was out, i had said how exciting it was even though i knew the guys lived. The lady i was talking to was mad, cause she hadnt seen it, and didnt know the ending. I had ruined it. Hello, it should have been common knowledge. You know how many people think America fought the Russians in WWII? Many, some are even college educated!
General, well rounded, basic stuff. Its not like i asked who the Marx Brothers are. Sadly, no one uder the age of 35 seems to know, these days.

"Did we quit when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?"
post #321 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett_M
Most hated. Gotcha. The trial, the "facts" -- it made for a good movie.

Not if you know anything about History. Then you just sit there pounding your head against the seat in front of you!

Doug
post #322 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
"Did we quit when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?"

LOL, thats exactly what i thought of. Sad, that their are really people dont get that now.
post #323 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickER
Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
"Did we quit when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?"
LOL, thats exactly what i thought of. Sad, that their are really people dont get that now.
What can you do? Kids today! They just don't know the basics. Things like spelling and punctuation are beyond them.

(The plural of "German" does not take an apostrophe, but the contractions for "that is" and "do not" do. The first personal singular pronoun is always capitalized. The word "their" is a third person plural possessive pronoun; you mean "there". Don't slam the door too hard on that glass house!)

M.
post #324 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Reuben
What can you do? Kids today! They just don't know the basics. Things like spelling and punctuation are beyond them.

(The plural of "German" does not take an apostrophe, but the contractions for "that is" and "do not" do. The first personal singular pronoun is always capitalized. The word "their" is a third person plural possessive pronoun; you mean "there". Don't slam the door too hard on that glass house!)

M.
Point well taken Michael. I hate to use those " and '. Parts of the keyboard i just never use. I do know the difference between their and there...but i get on a roll.

So, who thinks the new X Files is the worst movie ever made?
post #325 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickER
So, who thinks the new X Files is the worst movie ever made?
Mostly just the people who haven't actually seen the movie and read reviews online.
post #326 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

post #327 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TravisR
Mostly just the people who haven't actually seen the movie and read reviews online.

Isnt that the way it is with everything? I want to see the movie, but i will wait for the Blu-ray. You know, i have only seen 2 movies this year at the theater...and X Files isnt (or should i say isn't) one of them. But i will see it!
post #328 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Good call on Batman & Robin. Seeing the trailer I couldn't help thinking I was watching a joke trailer, but no that was the real thing. The strange thing is that when it is on cable and I stumble across it I can't seem to keep myself from watching most of it.
post #329 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickER
Isnt that the way it is with everything? I want to see the movie, but i will wait for the Blu-ray. You know, i have only seen 2 movies this year at the theater...and X Files isnt (or should i say isn't) one of them. But i will see it!
If you've only been to the theater twice this year, you definitely should wait for the Blu Ray instead 'using' a rare trip to the theater to see it. And that's coming from a huge fan of the series (who thought the movie was OK).
post #330 of 345

Re: Worst Movies Ever Made?

I thought Battlefield Earth was pretty bad.

Lawnmower Man 2 is a close second.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Movies (Theatrical)
Home Theater Forum › Home Theater Forum › Entertainment › Movies (Theatrical) › Worst Movies Ever Made?