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Does Anyone Have The Specs For The (R2) 4-Disc "Gangs Of New York" Set?

post #1 of 13
9/25/03 at 6:58pm
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I would like to know how the 4-discs are compiled and what content is featured on each. I'd also like to know if there are optional English soundtracks for the feature, (which I'd assume based on the 2-disc set), and I'd also like to know if the English tracks are available on the extra features as well (Commentaries, tv spots, etc)? Please post any and all info you might have. Thanks!
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post #2 of 13
9/26/03 at 12:13pm
DVD #1
- the feature in English and French DD 5.1
- trailer

DVD #2
- making of
- interviews with M. Scorsese, L. DiCaprio, D. Day Lewis, C. Diaz, L. Neeson, H. Thomas, J. Broadbent, J.C. Reilly
- Cannes featurette
- press conference at the Majestic
- dictionary of the vocabulary of the era
- costumes and sets
- trailer
- TV-spots
- 3 "clips": The time, The place, The people
- music video from "U2"
- filmographies
- biographies

DVD #3
- the feature in French DTS

DVD #4
- documentary on the Gangs of New York (45 minutes)
- the actors talk about Martin Scorsese (60 minutes)

+ the novel
+ a piece from the film-elements

Subtitles are available in French but no word, if these are optional on the english audio tracks and if they are available on the supplemental features.

EDIT:


The date was pushed back from 11/05/03 to the 4th quarter of 2004 (!!!) so there can be a lot of changes on the details of this set.
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post #3 of 13
9/27/03 at 11:30am
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Thanks a lot Christian, I assume that all the featurettes and commentaries would be presented in English and subtitled?

If so... Im buying!!

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post #4 of 13
9/27/03 at 11:31am
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Btw, what about the book - any idea?
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post #5 of 13
9/27/03 at 3:00pm
From what I know, the 60min doc. on DVD#4 will be the doc from the series "The Directors"

Cheers,

Vincent
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post #6 of 13
9/27/03 at 3:34pm
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Thanks a lot Christian, I assume that all the featurettes and commentaries would be presented in English and subtitled?


I would not assume this, particularly for a French DVD release. i have the 3 disc Casino French DVD set and the extras are not subtitled in English, English documentaries are over-dubbed in French and the subtitles are not removable.
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post #7 of 13
9/27/03 at 4:18pm
French only DVDs are meant for French speakers. They are no more likely to have English subs on extras than a Japanese Region 2.

I've several French discs where documentaries are in English but they overdub in French. Most French (like most people) don't like subtitles either.

Forced French subtitles (or any forced subtitles) can be removed on many players with no problem.
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post #8 of 13
9/28/03 at 4:59pm
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Aargghh, I really wanted this set!!!

Why did they have to overdub... why?!?
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post #9 of 13
9/28/03 at 5:02pm
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Forced French subtitles (or any forced subtitles) can be removed on many players with no problem.


How so?

I have the R1 disc of Fantastic Planet and the subtitles on the dubbed version are extremely distracting - are you suggesting that all dvd players have a way of overriding the subtitle function on discs where there are no toher options?
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post #10 of 13
9/28/03 at 9:12pm
are you suggesting that all dvd players have a way of overriding the subtitle function on discs where there are no toher options?

No. You'll have to search for the details but it's been posted here before.
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post #11 of 13
10/7/03 at 12:01pm
I can remove forced french subs with my Toshiba 2109b.

I have a number of French discs with forced subs. (Scream, First Blood, Flash Gordon, Evita, English Patient.) The Toshiba will remove the subs from all of them.

Play film. Press stop.
Turn off subs.
Press "T" button, hidden under flap on remote.
Select start time of 00:00:01.
Press play.

Film restarts without the subs.
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post #12 of 13
10/8/03 at 2:49am
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Aargghh, I really wanted this set!!!

Why did they have to overdub... why?!?


Because often the American studios make them overdub and/or force subtitles as part of their French/German/Spanish/Whatever language distribution license.

No distributor really wants to force dubbings or subtitles - not when DVD means both are optional. They're clever enough to know that doing so will loose them potential overseas sales. And who's going to turn down potential sales? No matter how small?

So the reason is 90% likely to be Miramax's, not the French distributors.
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post #13 of 13
10/12/03 at 11:46am
From what I've read it seems only Toshiba and Panasonic players are able to overide forced subs.
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