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post #61 of 127
9/11/03 at 6:35am
Right. Sorry about that. Been so long since I played the LD, mainly because it's been autographed.

Mike
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post #62 of 127
9/11/03 at 7:32am
Rush Hour - DTS only on LD.
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post #63 of 127
9/11/03 at 7:44am
The Criterion edition of Bad Day At Black Rock has a commentary by John Sturges. Warner will be releasing the film on DVD next year. It is doubtful that it will have that commentary.

Criterion's excellent Laser of Robinson Crusoe On Mars sells for insane amounts of cash on Ebay, yet no DVD is in site. Very strange. Must be a rights issue.

Criterion put out a Laser of Midnight Cowboy with a commentary by Schlesinger. In 1994, MGM put out a Laser with a 25th Anniversary retrospective documentary. They dropped it for the DVD, probably because it was 'out of date' by 1997.


Gordy
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post #64 of 127
9/11/03 at 7:51am
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Criterion's excellent Laser of Robinson Crusoe On Mars sells for insane amounts of cash on Ebay, yet no DVD is in site. Very strange. Must be a rights issue.


No rights issue, Paramount owns it. I'm hoping that they will one day decide to release it. They know there is strong support here on this forum for this to be released on DVD.
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post #65 of 127
9/11/03 at 7:52am
In the ranks of the obscure - "The Mask", a rather old 3D film was released on LD only, including glasses.

Mike
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post #66 of 127
9/11/03 at 7:57am
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No rights issue, Paramount owns it. I'm hoping that they will one day decide to release it
Now I don't want to be accused of putting words in Mr Blythe's mouth, but it seems that I remember him intimating that there was not much interest at Paramount in this title at this point in time. As much as it is written about here & considering the eBay selling amounts, a reasonable person would suppose that this title would sell well for Paramount. I'm curious about their apathy toward it.
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post #67 of 127
9/11/03 at 9:20am
A few from my collection which I believe are not on LD
Marx Bros:
At the Circus/ Go West
DAY AT THE RACES
A Night at the Opera

COMPLEAT BEATLES, The
Invasion of the Space Preachers
Leningrad Cowboys Go America
KURT & COURTNEY
LIFESTYLES OF THE RAMONES
SATURDAY MORNING CARTOONS '95
THIS IS ELVIS (DOCUMENTARY)
WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT (with original Jessica Rabbit 'flash shot')
The Whos Tommy, The Amazing Journey,
Paul Weller, Highlights & Hang Ups
The Cure - Standing on the Beach and Play out- Many videos not on the DVD

Not Sure about these on DVD:
Fiendish Plot of Dr. FuManchu, The
FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS
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post #68 of 127
3/12/04 at 2:14am

Midnight Cowboy (Pioneer?) has a retrospective documentary and commentary by Schlesinger.

Michael Mann's The Keep is not on DVD and the VHS editions are all pan and scan. The Laserdisc is 2.35:1, though.

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post #69 of 127
3/12/04 at 6:33am
We can also add to the list:

Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - Original theatrical version available on widescreen VHS and Japanese laserdisc. Widescreen collector's edition contains a 15-minute featurette on the making of the film; the excerpted footage appears in longer form, however, on the DVD.
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post #70 of 127
3/12/04 at 9:37am
Well, I guess we can add the just released ONE MILLION YEARS BC(1967) to the list-

the LD is the 100 minute version, the DVD is 91 min.
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post #71 of 127
3/12/04 at 9:54am
Yep. And I'm still waiting for an explanation from Fox.

Going back through this thread, I don't think "1776" (the last great LD title botched on DVD to get me furious) wasn't mentioned.

And then there are the movies that on DVD are missing other things.

"Sweet Charity" and "Guys And Dolls" are both missing their Exit Music on DVD and had them on LD.

"Great Race" still has the screwed up audio in the credits.

"It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" in addition to being the shorter cut is missing its Overture and the title sequence lacks the color shifts.
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post #72 of 127
3/12/04 at 10:45am
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Marx Bros:
At the Circus/ Go West
DAY AT THE RACES
A Night at the Opera


These have all been announced (along with 3 other Marx Bros. classics) as part of a 5 Disc boxed set from Warner Bros. on May 4th!
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post #73 of 127
3/12/04 at 3:43pm
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What is the Laserdisc that has a James Stewart interview-come-commentary?


Winchester 73.
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post #74 of 127
3/12/04 at 4:39pm
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Going back through this thread, I don't think "1776" (the last great LD title botched on DVD to get me furious) wasn't mentioned.

Well, the LD didn't reflect the true director's cut, but rather the workprint.

It's like if MGM put out the original roadshow version of It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World on DVD (if they ever have it restored). People will complain that it's not the extended version previously on VHS and LD. Tough luck. It's more important to have the CORRECT version than the longest version.
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post #75 of 127
3/12/04 at 7:00pm
"Well, the LD didn't reflect the true director's cut, but rather the workprint."

The director's own words on the LD commentary reveal that to not be the case.

It's like if MGM put out the original roadshow version of It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World on DVD (if they ever have it restored). People will complain that it's not the extended version previously on VHS and LD. Tough luck. It's more important to have the CORRECT version than the longest version."

But in the meantime, a version *approved* by Stanley Kramer (just as the "1776" LD was approved by Peter Hunt) did appear on LD, and until then there is no reason for not presenting that cut on DVD. Once that version gets out in one format, the consumer is gypped when it gets shortened or changed again in a new format.
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post #76 of 127
12/24/05 at 11:58am
I looked through this whole thread and have not seen this one mentioned:

The Criterion Collection's CAV Version of Singin' In the Rain

This LD has an audio commentary by Ronald Haver. I believe he was an instructor at UCLA film school. So much more informative and interesting that the DVD with Debbie Reynolds comments. Ron goes into details about the film, the actors, and so many interesting facts about the film.
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post #77 of 127
12/24/05 at 1:19pm
I think the Ace Ventura LD is in OAR and has a director commentary.
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post #78 of 127
12/24/05 at 2:00pm
To the best of my knowledge, the "Nadia Omake Gekijou" segments of the Fushigi no Umi no Nadia Perfect Collection LD box are not available on DVD. The same goes for the Production Art Portfolio/Soundtrack Album from the Wings of Honneamise Memorial Box editions, and I don't believe the currently available DVD editions have both the original stereo sound and the 1998 5.1 audio remix.

I probably have other stuff like this in my collection, but it's hard to track down what is and is not on the DVD editions.
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post #79 of 127
12/24/05 at 2:09pm
The Showgirls LD has two teaser trailers that weren't included on either of the two DVDs.

Carrie (1976) had a commentary track on LD that never made it to DVD.

The Princess Bride has a commentary on LD that is different from the two on the DVD.

Ms. 45 is uncut and includes the trailer on LD. The DVD is lightly trimmed and doesn't include the trailer.

Black Christmas - The 1999 Image Entertainment/Warner Bros. LaserDisc is matted to 1.85:1 while the 2002 Critical Mass Collector's Edition DVD is matted to 1.66:1.
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post #80 of 127
12/24/05 at 6:37pm
DANDY IN ASPIC on LD and in WS
IDOLMAKER has a commentary by the director, the DVD does not
FUNHOUSE has a trailer that is not in the DVD
EASY RIDER has a commentary by Peter Fonda and Hopper, the DVD has a new commentary by Hopper only.
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post #81 of 127
12/25/05 at 11:20am
There have been two laserdisc editions of Communion starring Christopher Walken: the Image Entertainment (1990) regular edition, and the Lumivision (1996) Widescreen Special Edition. I'll discuss the latter:

The Lumivision Widescreen Special Edition of Communion contains a commentary track with the director (not the same commentary track that appeared later on the DVD).

The Lumivision Widescreen Special Edition of Communion also contains a few minutes of bloopers and improvisation. Some of this footage later appeared in reedited form on the DVD, but the DVD covers up the audio with narration. So if you want to actually see *and hear* the bloopers and improvisation (including Christopher Walken cracking up as he is assulted by an actor dressed as an alien) you need the Lumivision laserdisc.

Terrible film BTW.
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post #82 of 127
12/25/05 at 6:36pm
Yeah, the film version of Communion is a pretty weak reflection of a fascinating book (Strieber's website and net-radio show is excellent, too) but I'd love to see a new DVD with a commentary by Strieber.

There was a Japanese Laserdisc of The Reincarnation of Peter Proud. Due to the excessive, yet narratively essential nudity (including a full frontal shot of Margot Kidder masturbating in a bathtub) it rarely (or never?) showed up on TV and as it was independently produced by Bing Crosby's company BCP (distributed by MGM in 1975 only) it fell into obscurity and is now owned by Rysher Entertainment. Semi-cheezy film, but it is quite disturbing in places.

The Image Entertainment widescreen Laserdisc of Burn, Witch... Burn! (1962, aka. Night of the Eagle in the UK) had a commentary by Richard Matheson that probably won't show up on any future MGM DVD - the UK DVD (good anamorphic transfer, but only available in a crummy, over-priced box set) will probably not have that track.

There was a widescreen LD of Paul Newman's Sometimes a Great Notion, which is a fine film, but is another Universal title languishing in the vaults. The same goes for Mirage (1965, Edward Dmytryk).
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post #83 of 127
12/26/05 at 2:47pm
Gordon,

there was a LD of REINCARNATION in the U.S thru image. I have it, but havent played it in years. It was released by AIP in 1975, and did very well. It used to play once a year in the late 70's/early 80's at my local TV station that kept playing AIP features. All edited of course. (they kept playing REINCARNATION, DESTRUCTORS, KILLER FORCE, SHOUT AT THE DEVIL, FOOD OF THE GODS, BOBBIE JOE AND THE OUTLAW so it was nice when Vestron put them out uncut on video later on).

As for the rights owner, I hooked them up with 4 different DVD label to put out REINCARNATION as well as BEN and WILLARD, and they turned all four away, as they want a very unrealistic licensing fee. I am guessing a major studio might be able to afford it. ):
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post #84 of 127
12/26/05 at 2:52pm
some more films on LD but not DVD

SHOUT AT THE DEVIL
ROLLING THUNDER
SATAN's BUG
WEEDS
HANNIE CAULDER
I COME IN PEACE
WORLD GONE WILD

I recall MGM announcing WAR OF THE PLANETS,HIDE IN PLAIN SIGHT,SHE, FORTUNE AND MEN'S EYES but I never saw it, not sure if it ever came out.

I recall WB announced CRUISING but I dont think it ever came out either.
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post #85 of 127
12/27/05 at 3:21am
Oh, cheers, Walter; I didn't know that there was a U.S pressing from Image. It isn't listed at the Laserdisc Database. Maybe my DVD-r copy from Bijouflix.com was made from the U.S LD, as the pq doesn't look like VHS and is a decent copy on my smaller TV when viewed from 10ft. It's a cheesey, yet strangely disturbing film in places and would be snapped up by fans of 70s sci-fi.

Shout at the Devil is available in the UK (and other European countries) in the drastically cut 119-minute version in a what is said to be awful, albeit anamorphic 2.35:1 transfer. The Australian DVD is also the cut version, but I do not know what the quality is like. A shame, as I have always heard that the full 147-minute version was a damn fine piece of entertainment from those who saw it in theatres. The Image LD was apparently 127 minutes, pan and scan, CAV. I practically worship Lee Marvin, so you can imagine that I'd want a goregeos anamorphic transfer of the uncut 147-minute version.

The Satan Bug is available in Italy and Sweden with an anamorphic 2.35:1 transfer that is apparently pretty good, save for the horrendous aliasing/combing. Who owns the U.S. rights - is it still MGM?

Rolling Thunder was also released on LD by Image. There must be a problem with the rights, as it was produced by AIP, with a VHS from Vestron. So, who controls things now - MGM? Disney? My God it would be a big seller, as far as catalogue titles go, especially if you John Flynn, Paul Schrader, William Devane and Tommy Lee Jones to participate in interviews and/or commentaries.

Are you refering to Rysher Entertainment in regard to Peter Proud; Willard; Ben, etc? It is really frustrating when companies like that acquire the rights to film libraries and don't release the cult stuff on video.
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post #86 of 127
12/27/05 at 4:04am
Gordon,

I do have the US LD of SHOUT AT THE DEVIL, and side 3 was CAV, but I could have sworn it was alot longer than 127min. I guess I might have to give my old LD a spin and check the running time.

MGM controls ROLLING THUNDER and they are playing it alot on cable TV here in the US awhile back, perhaps they are working on a S.E?

you are correct that MGM still controls SATAN'S BUG. Fun little film.

It be nice if MGM also puts out another fun Marvin flick GREAT SCOUT AND CATHOUSE TUESDAY. Seeing him and Oliver Reed as a comedic duo is something else!
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post #87 of 127
12/27/05 at 4:16am
Great Scout and Cathouse Thursday, Walter! Not tuesday!

I have never seen it, but it one of my Holy Grails as I also worship Ollie Reed. I am sure that the film is a hoot.

I caught the end of The Professionals on TV last night and Ralph Bellamy's "bastard" in "You bastard" was muted out! I was livid! I had dragged my brother into the room to hear it, too! Bastards indeed! 2006 was a great year for Marvinians: Prime Cut and Point Blank? Great stuff!

A DVD of Rolling Thunder in 2006 is a must, surely?
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post #88 of 127
12/27/05 at 4:23am
Well I've been waiting and praying for a widescreen version of PRIME CUT since the LD days, and that eventually came out on DVD, so lets hope more gems from the vault will appear in DVD.
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post #89 of 127
12/27/05 at 10:15am
Prime Cut is an brilliantly bizarre movie. It was produced by Cinema Center Films. It came to us on DVD from CBS via Paramount. Do CBS own the Cinema Center Films library? If so, then they own:

Who Is Harry Kellerman and Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me? (1971)
Figures in a Landscape (1970)
The Boys in the Band (1970)
The Brotherhood of the Bell (1970, TV movie)
Sole Survivor (1970, TV movie)

All of which have been unavailable for years. Joseph Losey's Figures in a Landscape was announced for DVD release in the UK this year, but it was cancelled, which caused me considerable disappointment, as I am huge fan of Losey, Malcolm McDowell and Robert Shaw and I have longed to see this film, which has never had a legit video release.
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post #90 of 127
12/28/05 at 9:27am
Gordon,

yes CBS owns them now, and can put them out thru Paramount, just like PRIME CUT, REIVERS, WITH SIX YOU GET EGGROLLS, LITTLE BIG MAN, MAN CALED HORSE, LA MAN, etc. Since they put those out, I assume they will eventually get to the ones you mentioned.

Other good titles from that library would be BLUE WATER WHITE DEATH, ADAM AT 6AM, REVENGERS,APRIL FOOLS, MONTE WALSH.

FIGURES IN A LANSCAPE was out on CBS video in UK and Australia, a pre-cert. It was re-titled HUNTED, so you might want to check your used video shelfs Gordon, or ebays, as I was able to buy one for 9 pounds once.
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