Things that bug you about your favorite movies... - Page 3

Matrix: Reloaded - The whole Zion dance scene, totally unnecassary and way too cheesy. Also, Morpheus's speech in Zion. It lacked emotion but was said in a way that tried to convey alot of emotion.

Attack of the Clones: Boba Fett as a child. Horrible acting in that kid, worse than Anakin in the Phatom Menace. The scene in the asteroid field where he's giggling and shouting things like "Watch out!", made me sick.

Matrix: Don't know why this bugs me, but it does. When Morpheus takes Neo into the program for the first time and says "Welcome to the desert of the real." I don't know, but I find that line so cheesy.

Definately Spiderman and the whole Green Goblin as a guy in a special suit. As I recall, in the comic book, the Green Goblin was a mutant of some sort, not some guy in a suit.

The original Green Goblin was a guy in a suit.The change to make the suit armored was to make to more "realstic"-so it wasnt a guy running around in a rubber mask.

The fight on the bridge and especially his death scene were inspired by the original comic books.

It seems to me Micheal is admiring his 'work of art', titting his head to look at it from a different angle. This is presumably to show Micheal's cruelty and I think it works well.

You might be thinking of Ultimate Spiderman series. That started a couple years ago(I think around the same time as the movie came out). They reworked the whole Spider-man origin and tweaked a few things here and there. Green Goblin was one of them. I think I remember that he wasn't actually a mutant until he injected some drugs in him(although the lab explosion did mess him up a bit).

I agree completely with Simon's reasoning for Mike Myers...except for the 'titting his head' part.

Err I meant tilting :b

For the most part I love Last of the Mohicans, but the "stay alive, no matter what occurs. I will find you." bit I can't stand.

"But I want to go to Toshii station to pick up some power converters."

Personally I always loved the head tilting too

Ill add Winonas stupid voiceover at the end of Dracula.

The scene in Blade after Blade breaks up the rave and is fighting Frosts henchmen. Blade shoots Quinn(Donal Logue) with two of his silver spikes, that fries any other vampire, only to pin Quinn to the wall. Shouldn't Quinn have been toast too?

Just thought of another one.

In The Matrix, when Neo is in the rebel's car and Switch is just being a stone cold B@#$%. They need him, so why the gun and the "coppertop" comments so quickly. With their mad Matrix skills and his lack, what do they have to worry about. Just irritated me.

Jonathon

ROTJ:

Han's rescue takes too long. Bad dialogue, "look, it's Han Solo and he's still frozen in carbonite!" and gems like, "someone who loves you." Bad music number turned into extended bad music number in Special Ed. (thats a good abreviation for it.)

When Obi Wan "the ghost" sits on a rock.

Yoda is lit too brightly compared to ESB.



I liked that scene. If it's a Tarkovsky film and has SOME MOVEMENT going on in a scene, I'm a happy camper. It's very Antonioni.

There's speculation that scene was not put in for purely artistic purposes. Tarkovsky got permission from the soviets to film in Japan and he had to justify his expense. 5 minutes of sceentime = big production value realized on the expensive trip. It was rare to get permission to travel abroad in that enviornment.

So it's like we're being treated to T's home movies. (Which is pretty much like every Tarkovsky film.)


The animal cruelty scenes in Andrei Rublev are the worst, most unnecessary scenes I've ever scene in a film. ticks me off every time I think about because the rest of the film is so damn incredible.

What bugs me about my favorite films is when others rip into them in a manner that shows they shallowly missed the point of the movie. Quick examples would be folks who say "Titanic, the boat sank, get over it" or "Matrix is just an action film". Etc...

Here's another time travel bugger...

I've only seen T2 twice, so I may have missed the explanation, but when they destroy all the research lab material that created the Robert Patrick machine, shouldn't the movie be over right then and there? How is it that he can still be marching around if they completely destroyed the ability for him to be created? The third act showdown should never have occured at all.

"This is what happens when you find a man in the Alps!!!!"

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Richard,
Among time travel movies, there is the closed loop kind (12 Monkeys, T2) and the rewriting/parallel universe kind (BTTF).

In the closed loop kind, what has happened has always happened. However, everything seems to have a genesis. I don't think you could be your own father in a closed loop movie. However, you could send your friend to be your father. Your father appears in the past because you will eventually send him. And the person your choose in the future you already know will become your father. Even if you tried to send someone other than Kyle Reese, Kyle Reese will be the one that goes, no matter what. Nothing ever changes.

In the rewriting type, new braches are created when you go back and change things. You could have Kyle Reese be your father, then go back and change it into someone else by delaying him, and may even negate your own existence. They waver on if your original timeline stuff remains even if you invalidate it or treat it like BTTF where errors are erased from existence.

For the Terminator series, three things always happened. There was always a judgement day. Miles Dyson always was inspired to create the Terminator, and the original Cyberdyne lab and the original Terminator artifacts were always destroyed. The devices created in T3 were based on the work that Dyson had already completed, so the artifacts were no longer needed. For that reason, the T-800 exists unchanged and the T-1000 also exists unchanged.

The only flawed thing in the Terminator series is Skynet's belief it could change the past. However, it always had to try because it could not exist if it hadn't tried to kill John Conner by sending a T-800 back in the past.

T3 busted up all kinds of continuity, as do the deleted scenes for T2. But overall, T2 should still work if Sarah is indeed wrong that the road was completely open at the end of T2. She only thought she had change things when instead she was doing everything she would ever do and the end result depended on her attempts to stop it.


Thought of another portion of some favorite films that bug me:

I love the remake of The Ring. Everything in it really worked for me tonally except the opening. The girl at the end of her seven day cycle was not acting as she should, and should not have been told the urban legend by her friend. Changing this opening to make the soon-to-be victim morose and having her friend find the body would have worked much better than the pillow fight Scream antics they used.

I thought of another one...in The Matrix while he is riding with Switch and Trinity in the cab, he gets out of the car at one point, and they say to him, "No, Neo, you've been down that road before" and he looks down a road. What in the world is that road? Have I missed something completely, or does that line just seem cheap and out of place?

The Road To Perdition

Matrix and the Road - I think that was just a metaphor meaning that doing nothing would only lead him to never change. By taking a chance he would be going down a new "road"

T2 - The existence of T3 shows why the Terminators did not go poof. What bugs me about the Terminator movies is how Reese is Johns father. There had to be a "first time" when the machines came to power in which John had a different father. Because Sarah tells him "how much it feel knowing that you have to send your father back to die because then you could never be" or something like that. So if he doesnt send him back he'll just go poof? I basically just gloss over the time travel, because it can never end. Why didnt they just send back a Terminator to kill Saras mother.....

At least in T3 they made it a point that John was not the only target.


Blade - I took it as you didnt die unless the silver hit a vital part of your body. Hence the "you aim for the head or the heart, anything else and its your @$$"

*L* I know what you mean because that always struck me as unintentionally funny. If they hadn't put that shot of the road in there, it would have been fine, just an expression appropriate for the situation. But by actually showing a quick shot of a road, it feels for a second like Trinity is actually speaking literally

Although I practically worship PJ's LOTR, there's bits in the first two films which IRK:

There's a bit too much 'aww and wonder' going on whenever they see something new. Gimli is particularly guilty of this.

The river scenes in Fellowship. Legolas senses something in the forest and prompty looks over his left shoulder to the sound of dramatic music. All very good, except that he's looking THE WRONG WAY. They're travelling south. The Uruks are coming from Isengard (west). He should be looking over his right shoulder. There's also an incorrect direction mentioned when they're chasing the Uruks in TTT.

Oh - and Gandalf announcing the arrival of the Balrog. Sorry PJ, that's Legolas' line and it shouldn't have been changed.

Hmmm, could you elaborate on what you mean by "I know why it happened"? Because Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The phrase "desert of the real" has been used by philosophers for centuries, and refers to the underlying reality that is unsullied by perception or perspective. Simulacra and Simulation by Jean Baudrillard, the book that Neo uses to hide his "stash", introduces this right off the bat. Cheesy? Maybe. Fitting? Sure.

They were aware that Neo was hauled off by the Agents, and that he might have cut a deal with them to go free. Caution is good thing to have when you are being hunted.

Didnt Silver have to hit the heart. I thought Blade gets stabbed by one of those by Quinn later in the movie.

The "I know what happened" refers to a script editing error that made it to the release print.

In an earlier version of the script, "Mary" was the fifth replicant, and "Hodge" was the sixth. Bryant's line in that script got past the screenwriter unnoticed. It was recorded correctly in the Workprint as "two got fried" but botched again on the release print.

Who would think that Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) had escaped from the off-world colonies?

Brad

all the silly prince songs in batman.

CJ

Somebody has to mention an older movie; someone like me.

The Music Man. I really, really love this film, corny as it is, more than any other musical, but the big finale fried me 40 years ago when I first saw it in the theater, and every time since when I watch it on video.

I'm ok with everything until the very end when, after Harold Hill is off the hook, the boy's band turns into this humongous marching band. Great! This should have been a wonderful scene, but, to my astonishment, no one can march! Everyone is wildly out of step. It's simply a hodge-podge of bodies walking down the street. And then when Harold Hill made a turn, the bulk of the band kept walking straight. I don't care if anyone could play but my stars, why couldn't the producers have seen that they had to know how to march? It's the big finale; surely a call to all the local marching bands - high school, college, whatever - who presumeably know how to march, would have had an overwhelming response.

Big letdown.

I think this was actually done quite well, and I'm not going to gripe about it since I think if they chose to make the actual mechanical webshooters it would've seemed a bit hokey. Call me crazy, but in a movie opposed to a comic, it just doesn't seem like it would belong.

One movie I have to complain about which most would agree with would be Dark City. Keifer Sutherland's voiceover in the beginning is going to: a) ruin a later part of the movie, b) potentially confuse a first-time viewer, or c) insult a movie-viewer's intelligence.

Good Lord! I totally forgot how much I hated that scene.

Do you know of a single person who, after sparking the owl, starts gyrating and pracing around like a demented Solid Gold Dancer, demonstrating questionable feats of acrobatic skill by galloping over library shelves and turning cartwheels?

CHRIST!!!

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