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post #151 of 415
11/7/06 at 11:06am

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They saved the most interesting batch releases to the last.....Too bad they didn't do the live albums in 5.1. Second's out's Cinema Show drum battle between Collins and Bruford in 5.1 would be amazing.
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post #152 of 415
11/7/06 at 12:54pm

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Genesis press conference on Windows Media Player

20 shows in the US
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post #153 of 415
11/7/06 at 4:00pm

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How awesome is it that they actually mention It Bites (under "bands they've influenced") in the press release?
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post #154 of 415
11/7/06 at 5:38pm

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Originally Posted by Aaron Silverman
O Lord, please give us these in the US!

Don't worry about it. The Moody Blues SACD's were originally only available outside the US, but it was no problem getting them from CD-Wow, Amazon UK, etc. Prices were even better than if they were available here.

So I'm not worried about being able to buy these outside of the US. With the internet, it's truly a global marketplace now.
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post #155 of 415
11/8/06 at 8:37am

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Yeah, I guess you're right, but I'm stuck watching on the PC when it comes to region 2 DVDs.
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post #156 of 415
12/20/06 at 1:02am

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Latest news directly from Nick Davis, as posted on stevehoffman.tv....

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just to clarify:
in the usa it will be a dvd-v 5.1 (dts and dd) and stereo cd release.
in europe the it will be dvd-v (as above) and sacd (stereo and 5.1) release.
yes, for this current batch (trick-abacab) it will be new stereo mixes.
there will be an extra disk set of 2 disks-formats as above- with the extra titles from this period.

So, no high-res version at all for the US. No DVD-A.
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post #157 of 415
12/20/06 at 8:01am

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That sucks. Oh well, I guess I'll be going for the imports!
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post #158 of 415
12/20/06 at 9:17am

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Originally Posted by Danny Tse
Latest news directly from Nick Davis, as posted on stevehoffman.tv....



So, no high-res version at all for the US. No DVD-A.

What do you consider high-res?
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post #159 of 415
12/20/06 at 5:38pm

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New stereo mixes? Not just a new remaster? That's dangerous. Messing with success and all.
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post #160 of 415
12/20/06 at 7:00pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin C Brown
New stereo mixes? Not just a new remaster? That's dangerous. Messing with success and all.
The new mixes were probably done when the Platinum Collection was prepared. If so, they will be subtle (a bit more "presence" on some vocals and some instrumentation that was buried in the mix will be more distinct). Nothing radical was done on any of the Platinum Collection re-mixes and I find them either neutral (as in so subtle as to not be noticeable without serious concentration) to slightly better (for example, Counting Out Time becomes almost a duet between Phil and Peter and works, for me, better than the original while Follow You, Follow Me gains a bit of percussion that adds a bit of extra flavour--it's subtle, but it works, again IMO).
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post #161 of 415
12/20/06 at 11:05pm

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Originally Posted by Danny Tse
Latest news directly from Nick Davis, as posted on stevehoffman.tv....



So, no high-res version at all for the US. No DVD-A.

So would the European disc be playable on US region 1 machines? I assume, if so, this would just affect the dvd-v and not the sacd layer (side?)? Also how does that work, 2 discs or diff layers? Is there video on it or just audio with a dvd video format. Would it be PAL vs NTSC?
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post #162 of 415
12/21/06 at 9:16am

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The SACD will be a standard hybrid disc that will play in any SACD player (or CD player for the redbook layer). The DVD, however, may be a PAL DVD for any video material, so that could pose some problems (not for me, though, as I have a player that does both PAL and NTSC quite well and is region-free to boot). If the DD/DTS tracks are like a DTS-CD, with no video, then it should work fine on any player (as long as there is no region-coding).
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post #163 of 415
12/21/06 at 5:31pm

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PDA- OK, thanks.
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post #164 of 415
12/21/06 at 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin C Brown
PDA- OK, thanks.

yes thanks from me too. Will the dvd be sold individually or as a set with the cd or sacd?
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post #165 of 415
12/22/06 at 12:05pm

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I purchased several of the Depeche Mode SACD/DVD-V since those imports were priced reasonably at CD-WOW, maybe the Genesis sets will be available at attractive prices as well.

Chris
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post #166 of 415
12/27/06 at 5:12pm

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Originally Posted by Christopher_G
I purchased several of the Depeche Mode SACD/DVD-V since those imports were priced reasonably at CD-WOW, maybe the Genesis sets will be available at attractive prices as well.

Chris

I did too...that's what I'm hoping for from the Genesis sets.
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post #167 of 415
1/17/07 at 4:07pm

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Wow, I'm surprised there hasn't been a big discussion going on about the recent Genesis SACD announcements from Music Direct! I just got an e-mail today with a big section showing that they're being released (the 1st batch anyway) in March. I grew up on early '80's Genesis (I know, I missed all the prog rock stuff), but nevertheless, I'll be picking the latter day stuff w/o a doubt (Invisible Touch, Genesis, Abacab, etc.). It's gonna be kind of expensive though...$40 a pop! Here's the link:

http://www.musicdirect.com/products/...eyword=genesis
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post #168 of 415
1/17/07 at 4:59pm

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Originally Posted by Ron Reda
Wow, I'm surprised there hasn't been a big discussion going on about the recent Genesis SACD announcements from Music Direct! I just got an e-mail today with a big section showing that they're being released (the 1st batch anyway) in March. I grew up on early '80's Genesis (I know, I missed all the prog rock stuff), but nevertheless, I'll be picking the latter day stuff w/o a doubt (Invisible Touch, Genesis, Abacab, etc.). It's gonna be kind of expensive though...$40 a pop! Here's the link:

http://www.musicdirect.com/products/...eyword=genesis

Really stupid that they aren't selling the japanese versions with ntsc dvds, why would folks in the US buy from these guys? Hugely inflated prices as well. I'm sure cd-wow will do better pricewise but will likely offer only the versions with pal dvds as well...
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post #169 of 415
1/17/07 at 6:06pm

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Got to get the imports...
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post #170 of 415
1/18/07 at 6:17am

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I see some US (NTSC) dvd players will play PAL dvds. So will they be able to play these or would the player also have to be region free? Or do they typically not make the dvds packaged with cds associated with a region?
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post #171 of 415
1/18/07 at 8:58am

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My Denon 2910 will play them with the region free hack.
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post #172 of 415
1/18/07 at 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by Ron Reda
Wow, I'm surprised there hasn't been a big discussion going on about the recent Genesis SACD announcements from Music Direct! I just got an e-mail today with a big section showing that they're being released (the 1st batch anyway) in March. I grew up on early '80's Genesis (I know, I missed all the prog rock stuff), but nevertheless, I'll be picking the latter day stuff w/o a doubt (Invisible Touch, Genesis, Abacab, etc.). It's gonna be kind of expensive though...$40 a pop! Here's the link:

http://www.musicdirect.com/products/...eyword=genesis

How about approximately US$112.00 + shipping from HMV JP??

http://www.hmv.co.jp/search/index.as...s&formattype=1
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post #173 of 415
1/18/07 at 1:50pm

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That's for a set of 5. I wonder how much their shipping to the US will be.

Still moderately pricey. Anyone know whether the Japanese releases will include English liner notes?
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post #174 of 415
1/18/07 at 3:25pm

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Originally Posted by Aaron Silverman
That's for a set of 5. I wonder how much their shipping to the US will be.

Still moderately pricey. Anyone know whether the Japanese releases will include English liner notes?

Someone on the stevehoffman.tv website checked and the total when shipped to the east coast of the US came to about $122.00.

According to the HMV site, it says the source is from Europe. Perhaps there will only be one source for these titles instead of having different pressings.
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post #175 of 415
1/18/07 at 4:16pm

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I have an Oppo in a secondary system that plays PAL and is region free. Not a bad player for the money. Nice to have for the random British dvds I want to watch.
I have had good luck with price and fast shipping using Amazon UK.
I know I won't be paying anywhere near $40 per disc, but I honestly I believe SACD/DVD combo will be well worth it!
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post #176 of 415
1/21/07 at 1:12pm

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I've got a question I'm actually embarrassed to ask. I do not own any SACD's and do not own an SACD player. When these new Genesis cds are released, will I be able to listen to them like a regular cd? I'd really like a remastered version of Tonight, Tonight, Tonight (Album Version). I'd actually like to have most of the Genesis catalog remastered. Am I out of luck or is there hope?
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post #177 of 415
1/21/07 at 5:50pm

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Originally Posted by Brad M
I've got a question I'm actually embarrassed to ask. I do not own any SACD's and do not own an SACD player. When these new Genesis cds are released, will I be able to listen to them like a regular cd? I'd really like a remastered version of Tonight, Tonight, Tonight (Album Version). I'd actually like to have most of the Genesis catalog remastered. Am I out of luck or is there hope?
If you buy the US releases, they will be regular CD plus a DVD, so you won't have any problems. If you buy the European or Japanese releases, you will get a hybrid SACD disc, which can play in any CD player. In any event, you will get a remastered (probably remixed, like the recent Platinum Collection) CD version no matter which release you buy.
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post #178 of 415
1/22/07 at 9:13am

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So if I want hi res music, I've got to buy the Euro/Japan version and deal with different format DVDs - right?
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post #179 of 415
1/22/07 at 9:55pm

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Originally Posted by Joe Valha
So if I want hi res music, I've got to buy the Euro/Japan version and deal with different format DVDs - right?

Yes, though the Japan version should be NTSC, same format as North America.
The Euro will be PAL, which may or may not play on your machine depending on the make and model.
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post #180 of 415
1/23/07 at 7:23am

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Is there anyone out there selling the Japanese disks yet?
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